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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:14 am 
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Nope not insinuating anything. But let's be real man you post stuff that clearly isn't unbiased because it fits your agenda. The idea that you're more pure than anyone to make accusations like "dupe or propagandist" is silly.



The constant equivalence of the Putin regime with those in the west with proper over sight is laughable, purity has nothing to do worth that idiocy.

When last did you look under your bed? There may be a Marxist lurking, y'know.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:14 am 
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Never taken a dime from a foreign entity in my life, and certainly not for any kind of lobbying. Given that you are based in the ME, have said you lecture there etc, it's probably fair for people to wonder if the same is true of you. But yeah, calling people "dupes" is stupid when most people still around this place (a decreasing number) post here in good faith and are just looking for debate.

I haven't defended Assad in any way except to say that minorities are protected under him, and given recent history, we know what would likely happen to them were he to be overthrown. I used to know an old engineer from Homs who came to the US and worked manual labor to support his wife and kids. When this shit all kicked off 6-7 years ago, he pretty much warned me of everything that was about to happen before it did.



Still not a word against Assad slaughtering civilians though ;)

If you're thinking that WT is 'arguing in good faith' you're sorely mistaken. I present his entire posting history as evidence.

Right, seriously, I have an early start tomorrow, I'm off now.



OMF. Anybody who goes against you "act in bad faith"
Spoken like an Empire man ... Typical colonialist.

You cannot hide your "loyalties", nor your colonialist inclinations, can you ?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:29 am 
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Never taken a dime from a foreign entity in my life, and certainly not for any kind of lobbying. Given that you are based in the ME, have said you lecture there etc, it's probably fair for people to wonder if the same is true of you. But yeah, calling people "dupes" is stupid when most people still around this place (a decreasing number) post here in good faith and are just looking for debate.

I haven't defended Assad in any way except to say that minorities are protected under him, and given recent history, we know what would likely happen to them were he to be overthrown. I used to know an old engineer from Homs who came to the US and worked manual labor to support his wife and kids. When this shit all kicked off 6-7 years ago, he pretty much warned me of everything that was about to happen before it did.



Still not a word against Assad slaughtering civilians though ;)

If you're thinking that WT is 'arguing in good faith' you're sorely mistaken. I present his entire posting history as evidence.

Right, seriously, I have an early start tomorrow, I'm off now.



OMF. Anybody who goes against you "act in bad faith"
Spoken like an Empire man ... Typical colonialist.

You cannot hide your "loyalties", nor your colonialist inclinations, can you ?

I think he assumes we can't see his bias. He literally tells it like he read it in a book. He talks about chemical agent perhaps even alluding that he lectures it. He also does the same thing with ME tribal conflict and international protocols. That's a combination of expertise in biology, chemistry, economic and political science. Dude puts Einstein and Ghandi to shame. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:50 am 
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Oceanbreeze wrote:
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OMF. Anybody who goes against you "act in bad faith"
Spoken like an Empire man ... Typical colonialist.

You cannot hide your "loyalties", nor your colonialist inclinations, can you ?

I think he assumes we can't see his bias. He literally tells it like he read it in a book. He talks about chemical agent perhaps even alluding that he lectures it. He also does the same thing with ME tribal conflict and international protocols. That's a combination of expertise in biology, chemistry, economic and political science. Dude puts Einstein and Ghandi to shame. :D



"Renaissance man" His own words here on PR ...

Da Vinci was an idiot, compared ..


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 7:53 am 
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Bokkom wrote:
Just check the first 4 minutes.
The US military junta clearly calling the shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk

So, the US deep state tries to overthrow Assad to further its geopolitical aims in the region, which also happens to serve Israel's aims, with typically disastrous consequences.

It's not easy to just leave though, essentially it means expansion of Iranian influence and the ME balance of power handed to Russia leaving Israel potentially imperilled.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Rugby2023 wrote:
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Just check the first 4 minutes.
The US military junta clearly calling the shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2TRzA2ezk

So, the US deep state tries to overthrow Assad to further its geopolitical aims in the region, which also happens to serve Israel's aims, with typically disastrous consequences.

It's not easy to just leave though, essentially it means expansion of Iranian influence and the ME balance of power handed to Russia leaving Israel potentially imperilled.



Which is why it is bad politics to always bomb everyone around, building enmity to the point of zero tolerance and having no diplomatic recourse.

And it is American tax payers that pay for those bombs ... tax payer who get nothing out of the trillion or so dollars arms deals and industry.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44002029

Starting to sound even fishier, that's enough to kill a small city and it didnt kill anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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hurricane g wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44002029

Starting to sound even fishier, that's enough to kill a small city and it didnt kill anyone?

:lol:

I'm afraid the guilabke sheeples on here and out there are just too stupid to have any logical thinking!


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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hurricane g wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44002029

Starting to sound even fishier, that's enough to kill a small city and it didnt kill anyone?


So are the OPCW in on it as well?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 1:10 pm 
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Russia Insight, reporting on Russian benevolence and wonderfulness, with reporters embedded with Russian troops... I thought you hated that kind of 'journalism'?

And you are being paid in US dollars.



USA ! USA ! USA !


And he's wrong :smug: I get paid in Aussie dollars.

That's a studied insult, bro. Find a better employer.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:26 pm 
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MungoMan wrote:
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Russia Insight, reporting on Russian benevolence and wonderfulness, with reporters embedded with Russian troops... I thought you hated that kind of 'journalism'?

And you are being paid in US dollars.



USA ! USA ! USA !


And he's wrong :smug: I get paid in Aussie dollars.

That's a studied insult, bro. Find a better employer.


Nah, over here, I'm raking it in. It's almost embarrassing for those who chose less stable currencies. :smug:


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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If stability was your driver then wouldn’t the US$ be better, or are you looking a different cost basis than Dirhams?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:02 pm 
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More Novichok?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Bullettyme wrote:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44002029

Starting to sound even fishier, that's enough to kill a small city and it didnt kill anyone?


So are the OPCW in on it as well?

Hurricane g, another multy?


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:59 am 
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Uncle Fester wrote:
More Novichok?
Aye: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44719639


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:46 am 
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England should pull out of the WC in protest.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Bokkom wrote:
England should pull out of the WC in protest.


Well they should give the Cup a good washing out before drinking champagne from it.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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England should pull out of the WC in protest.


Well they should give the Cup a good washing out before drinking champagne from it.
Some of the finest trolling for a while...layered...


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Scotland Yard have named the Novichok poisoners.

Should be a spicy next couple of days with the Russkies.

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Salisbury Novichok poisoning: Two Russian nationals named as suspects - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45421445


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Scotland Yard have named the Novichok poisoners.

Should be a spicy next couple of days with the Russkies.

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Salisbury Novichok poisoning: Two Russian nationals named as suspects - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45421445


Interesting development. The Russian response is also very... interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Turbogoat wrote:
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Scotland Yard have named the Novichok poisoners.

Should be a spicy next couple of days with the Russkies.

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Salisbury Novichok poisoning: Two Russian nationals named as suspects - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45421445


Interesting development. The Russian response is also very... interesting.

What is interesting to me is that the Russians (I can't see how it would be anyone else) chose such an easily traced MO.

Did they do it because they wanted it to be known who did it? Let's face it, that conclusion would have been drawn no matter the means employed.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Scotland Yard have named the Novichok poisoners.

Should be a spicy next couple of days with the Russkies.

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Salisbury Novichok poisoning: Two Russian nationals named as suspects - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45421445


Interesting development. The Russian response is also very... interesting.

What is interesting to me is that the Russians (I can't see how it would be anyone else) chose such an easily traced MO.

Did they do it because they wanted it to be known who did it? Let's face it, that conclusion would have been drawn no matter the means employed.


They knew it would send out a very, very clear message to all the others who have turned against Russia or not been so approving of the kleptocracy. They can reach out and get you, simply by getting you to touch a doorknob.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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I've never had much time for all the Novichock doubters out there but I'm beginning to wonder.

M15 can't seriously expect us to believe that anyone using SW Trains Sunday service could get from London to Salisbury and then back to Heathrow again in a single day. #jetoilandsteel


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Guess Sherlock can return to his grave, now.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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I've never had much time for all the Novichock doubters out there but I'm beginning to wonder.

M15 can't seriously expect us to believe that anyone using SW Trains Sunday service could get from London to Salisbury and then back to Heathrow again in a single day. #jetoilandsteel


I did it every day twice a day for 3 months while my house was being renovated. :(


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I've never had much time for all the Novichock doubters out there but I'm beginning to wonder.

M15 can't seriously expect us to believe that anyone using SW Trains Sunday service could get from London to Salisbury and then back to Heathrow again in a single day. #jetoilandsteel


You imagine that in SW Trains HQ they're popping champagne corks. After all, if two Russians can manage it then there's no excuse for anyone else


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I am not convinced at all - it seems all too silly - but I am not really informed on the topic


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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zzzz wrote:
I've never had much time for all the Novichock doubters out there but I'm beginning to wonder.

M15 can't seriously expect us to believe that anyone using SW Trains Sunday service could get from London to Salisbury and then back to Heathrow again in a single day. #jetoilandsteel


And there is a lot of truth anyway on this comment, talking about spies - but again I am not well informed on the whole picture


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Guess Sherlock can return to his grave, now.


I popped on to this thread to see if any of the wilder, more loony theories had died down down. I see not.


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Guess Sherlock can return to his grave, now.


I popped on to this thread to see if any of the wilder, more loony theories had died down down. I see not.



I watched an old DVD last night. "V" for Vendetta.
I suggest you have a look at it, to see how crazy the Brits CAN get.


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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
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Guess Sherlock can return to his grave, now.


I popped on to this thread to see if any of the wilder, more loony theories had died down down. I see not.



I watched an old DVD last night. "V" for Vendetta.
I suggest you have a look at it, to see how crazy the Brits CAN get.


I'm quite interested in Meteorology so was going to watch Frozen


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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So it looks like the gents were GRU agents and the UK, US, France, Germany and Canada have come out and said the act was ordered by the Russian government itself. Of course it may be a false flag completely, logically.


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So it looks like the gents were GRU agents and the UK, US, France, Germany and Canada have come out and said the act was ordered by the Russian government itself. Of course it may be a false flag completely, logically.


Good to see a firm, united response to this kind of thing. Whether they have the will to take any further action against Russia is another thing, but at least they aren't sweeping this under the carpet.


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Guess Sherlock can return to his grave, now.


I popped on to this thread to see if any of the wilder, more loony theories had died down down. I see not.


Was wondering how long it would take for the loons to return, not long it seems


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Call me an old cynic, but, it seems every time Teresa May and the Conservatives come under scrutiny for something or other, the Norvichok issue seems to raise its ugly head with new evidence. :uhoh:


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These guys for me are despicable felons, it's disgusting to see Gru involved.


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The Russian embassy twitter feed is fun


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The Russian embassy twitter feed is fun

They are reaching Israeli levels of shrill.

This one is especially amusing.
https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/stat ... 5101381632


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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Time to invade Rooossia, get rid of all those WMDs, and the dictator Putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cilfk7v5hKk


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 Post subject: Re: Vlad's at it again
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No doubt in the pay of Assad or a shill for Putin though... ;)


Yep...pretty much:

https://twitter.com/_RichardHall/status ... 3425107970


That guy gets ripped apart by most fo everybody replying to him.


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