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Average Joe wrote:Ask him if he will pick Cronje, Jantjies and Coetzee.

saffer13 wrote:

Average Joe wrote:Ask him if he will pick Cronje, Jantjies and Coetzee.

If he says yes, give him the traditional PR welcome to newbies.

houtkabouter wrote:Needs the sharks coach to add the banana skins.

Sards wrote:
Pecking order to be updated due to injury and form

1. The Beast, Kitsoff , Dylan Smith
2. Malcolm Marx , Strauss
3.
4. Eben Etsebeth, Ruan
5. Loodt , PSDT
6. Siya Kolisi
7. JLDP
8.
9.
10. Pollard, Junktjies
11.
12.
13.
14.
15. Gallant , Curwin

Guaranteed starters

Jensrsa wrote:Ruan Dreyer prop Lions
Lizo Gqoboka prop Bulls
Steven Kitshoff prop Stormers
Wilco Louw prop Stormers
Frans Malherbe prop Stormers
Trevor Nyakane prop Bulls
Malcolm Marx hooker Lions
Bongi Mbonambi hooker Stormers
Pieter-Steph du Toit lock Stormers
Eben Etzebeth lock Stormers
Jason Jenkins lock Bulls
Franco Mostert lock Lions
RG Snyman lock Bulls
Lood de Jager lock Bulls
Cyle Brink flank Lions
Siya Kolisi flank Stormers
Cobus Wiese flank Stormers
Nizaam Carr loose forward Stormers
Sikumbuzo Notshe loose forward Stormers
Roelof Smit loose forward Bulls
Warren Whiteley No 8 Lions
Embrose Papier scrumhalf Bulls
Elton Jantjies flyhalf Lions
Handré Pollard flyhalf Bulls
Damian Willemse flyhalf Stormers
Damian de Allende centre Stormers
Jesse Kriel centre Bulls
Lionel Mapoe centre Lions
Ruan Combrinck wing Lions
Aphiwe Dyantyi wing Lions
Travis Ismaiel wing Bulls
Andries Coetzee fullback Lions
Warrick Gelant fullback Bulls

Add about 10 or 11 from the Sharks and some from the Cheetahs and Kings and you have the wider Bok squad

Beast Mtawarira prop Sharks
Chiliboy Ralepelle hooker Sharks
Ruan Botha lock Sharks
Jean-Luc du Preez flank Sharks
Dan du Preez loose forward Sharks
Louis Schreuder scrumhalf Sharks
Robert du Preez flyhalf Sharks
Andre Esterhuizen centre Sharks
Lukhanyo Am centre Sharks
S'bu Nkosi wing Sharks
Curwin Bosch fullback Sharks

Sards wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:Ruan Dreyer prop Lions
Lizo Gqoboka prop Bulls
Steven Kitshoff prop Stormers
Wilco Louw prop Stormers
Frans Malherbe prop Stormers
Trevor Nyakane prop Bulls
Malcolm Marx hooker Lions
Bongi Mbonambi hooker Stormers
Pieter-Steph du Toit lock Stormers
Eben Etzebeth lock Stormers
Jason Jenkins lock Bulls
Franco Mostert lock Lions
RG Snyman lock Bulls
Lood de Jager lock Bulls
Cyle Brink flank Lions
Siya Kolisi flank Stormers
Cobus Wiese flank Stormers
Nizaam Carr loose forward Stormers
Sikumbuzo Notshe loose forward Stormers
Roelof Smit loose forward Bulls
Warren Whiteley No 8 Lions
Embrose Papier scrumhalf Bulls
Elton Jantjies flyhalf Lions
Handré Pollard flyhalf Bulls
Damian Willemse flyhalf Stormers
Damian de Allende centre Stormers
Jesse Kriel centre Bulls
Lionel Mapoe centre Lions
Ruan Combrinck wing Lions
Aphiwe Dyantyi wing Lions
Travis Ismaiel wing Bulls
Andries Coetzee fullback Lions
Warrick Gelant fullback Bulls

Add about 10 or 11 from the Sharks and some from the Cheetahs and Kings and you have the wider Bok squad

Beast Mtawarira prop Sharks
Chiliboy Ralepelle hooker Sharks
Ruan Botha lock Sharks
Jean-Luc du Preez flank Sharks
Dan du Preez loose forward Sharks
Louis Schreuder scrumhalf Sharks
Robert du Preez flyhalf Sharks
Andre Esterhuizen centre Sharks
Lukhanyo Am centre Sharks
S'bu Nkosi wing Sharks
Curwin Bosch fullback Sharks

Some players on that list are purely there on hype.

Sards wrote:Chilliboy and Ruan deserve a call up. AE won't be a bok I have peace with that.

The Test against Wales in Washington DC falls outside the official window, so it’s very unlikely that the overseas-based players will be released for duty. June is the point of the European season where the playoffs take place and teams like Montpellier, Toulon and Saracens won’t release players.

'So how can we work the situation to get the most out of that Test, while still giving the Boks a chance to make a winning start to the season, and at the same time ensure we’re ready to host England the following week?

'If I was the Bok coach, I’d look to pick a team against Wales that is made up of local players with a special emphasis on those that count towards the transformation targets.

assfly wrote:I actually agree with JW. It's a meaningless test, so lets have an honest look at where we are with transformation. Pick an all black team.

If we win, that's fantastic and a step in in the right direction for Bok rugby.
If we lose, then we clearly have a lot of work to do and this game will bring the issue of transformation under the spotlight.

assfly wrote:I actually agree with JW. It's a meaningless test, so lets have an honest look at where we are with transformation. Pick an all black team.

If we win, that's fantastic and a step in in the right direction for Bok rugby.
If we lose, then we clearly have a lot of work to do and this game will bring the issue of transformation under the spotlight.

handyman wrote:

assfly wrote:I actually agree with JW. It's a meaningless test, so lets have an honest look at where we are with transformation. Pick an all black team.

If we win, that's fantastic and a step in in the right direction for Bok rugby.
If we lose, then we clearly have a lot of work to do and this game will bring the issue of transformation under the spotlight.

If we lose, it will look like the poc's were set up to fail.

beachboy wrote:Has any one seen the ridiculous prices for tickets to the test at Newlands - almost double the price of Bloem and Ellis Park. They can fudge off.

handyman wrote:

beachboy wrote:Has any one seen the ridiculous prices for tickets to the test at Newlands - almost double the price of Bloem and Ellis Park. They can fudge off.

Last time I was there it was R 650, already too much for the facilities on offer. What's the price now?

Sards wrote:

handyman wrote:

beachboy wrote:Has any one seen the ridiculous prices for tickets to the test at Newlands - almost double the price of Bloem and Ellis Park. They can fudge off.

Last time I was there it was R 650, already too much for the facilities on offer. What's the price now?

I've never paid for a bok test

Sards wrote:Roumered call up of overseas players?


He may as well invite every Superrugby player.

In fact if you haven't been called up you know you are really really kak

houtkabouter wrote:

Sards wrote:Roumered call up of overseas players?


He may as well invite every Superrugby player.

In fact if you haven't been called up you know you are really really kak

Roumered?

He the new French coach?

sorCrer wrote:

Sards wrote:Chilliboy and Ruan deserve a call up. AE won't be a bok I have peace with that.

Ruan is a thug who did his best to take out the Saviour of Bok on Saturday.

Jensrsa wrote:The team that plays Wales in the US may very well be a different side to the one that start against England the next week

'If I was the Bok coach, I’d look to pick a team against Wales that is made up of local players with a special emphasis on those that count towards the transformation targets.

'Siya Kolisi would potentially captain a side that featured Tendai Mtawarira, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Trevor Nyakane, Marvin Orie, Lood de Jager, Thembalani Bholi, Nizaam Carr, Embrose Papier, Damian Willemse, Raymond Rhule, Damian de Allende, Lionel Mapoe, Ruan Combrinck and Warrick Gelant.

'While the one Bok squad is in the USA, a second group that includes SA’s most experienced players is at home preparing for the England series. There, you pick all the veterans that understand the pressures of Test rugby and who have played against the England players in the English Premiership and the Champions Cup.

'The team might look something like this: Steven Kitshoff, Malcolm Marx, Vincent Koch, Eben Etzebeth, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Francois Louw, Jean-Luc du Preez, Duane Vermeulen, Faf de Klerk, Handré Pollard, Aphiwe Dyanti, Frans Steyn, Lukhanyo Am, Sbu Nkosi and Willie le Roux, with guys like Bismarck du Plessis, Elton Jantjies and Curwin Bosch in the training squad.

Sards wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:The team that plays Wales in the US may very well be a different side to the one that start against England the next week

I fail to see the point.

It's not like we are brimming full of world class players.

New Zealand can get away with that shit. We can't