Re: New Zealand Holiday- Please Help
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:43 am
Shall we talk showers?Jeff the Bear wrote:Rotorua smells of bum.
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Shall we talk showers?Jeff the Bear wrote:Rotorua smells of bum.
Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!Caley_Red wrote:
Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.
Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Haven't you been to the Lord Nelson!?!Caley_Red wrote:
Joking aside, I know what you mean- the only pub I can find in Sydney that is even remotely ye olde worldly is the Lord Dudley. Having lived in Edinburgh and London for many years, I miss the classic Victorian pub.
The Dudley is good but a bit out of the way.
Rozelle and Balmain have a few old style pubs - although a couple have closed recently.
Believe it or not, the best "English" style pub in Oz is in Albany. Probably due to the Whalers being based there but coming from the UK originally.
No.maxbox wrote:Enlighten me oh wise one You are South African correct?usermame wrote:I don't suppose you'll ever get it.maxbox wrote:Bullshit, we didn't have any chicken runners in the 1960s
Jokes bro, I take it your whanau moved over here in the 1990s?
Yep.Caley_Red wrote:
Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).
Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).
That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Yep.Caley_Red wrote:
Is the Lord Nelson also free of door staff? An unexpected sneeze seems to get one chucked out these days. That's incidentally why I like the Dudley (and indeed Bat Country in Randwick) as there's no bouncers (at least not when I've been there).
Yeah, I used to live in Balmain East and I loved the high street along there but have actually never been to Rozelle (shamefully).
I go there fairly regularly.
Rozelle is actually preferable to Balmain nowadays.
You should really join the Sydney Cabal, although it's a bit broken at present...
Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.WoodlandsRFC wrote: Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.
We generally wear Pink Carnations.....Caley_Red wrote:
That's good to know: Sydney's pub scene has been utterly ruined by overzealous local bureaucrats insisting that outside companies are hired to do the door. My record was, after going to withdraw some cash at the ATM, I was refused re-entry to the Coogee Bay Hotel despite still having a bit of my 1st pint left on the table. .
How does one join the Sydney Cabal? Would be good to know if people are off to watch some games.
My recommendation is to go with this bunch: https://ecorafting.co.nzCaley_Red wrote:
Cheers Pat, yes- I fell for that myself whilst looking at the map but have since overlaid NZ onto Australia.Thanks, will definitely be rafting at some point.Gordon Bennett wrote:Best rafting is in the South Island. Heli-raft into the Perth or Whataroa.
North Island, the rafting from River Valley near Taihape is pretty good. Ask to take the wrong routes run on the Kaituna trip to have a thrilling and bruising trip.
NI equivalent? I thought Taupo was vying for the title 'Queenstown of the North'? Not a patch on Queenstown in reality but much nicer than Rotovegas.mr bungle wrote:I’ve always wondered what a tourist having been to QT thinks when they roll in to the NI equivalent, Rotorua.
I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.obelixtim wrote:Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.
Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.
There is a small bakery in Masterton, middle of the main drag, that serves magnificent pies. Try the steak and mushroom. The pastry is excellent and heaps of filling.booji boy wrote:I drive past that pie shop daily on the way to work.obelixtim wrote:Any adventure stuff (jetboating, Bungy, Skydiving, rafting etc) is much cheaper to do in Taupo, rather than Queenstown.
Great pie shop in Taupo...coming from Huka falls/Craters of the moon, down the hill into Taupo, across the bridge, up the hill, turn left onto Spa road (supermarket on your left), a hundred metres or so on your left is a pie shop....great pies.
Didn't realise what I was missing!!! (I have had a pie from there and thought it was good but not worthy of a world wide plug on PR ).
One other great thing I'd point out about Rotovegas (although probably irrelevant to this thread and Caley-Red) is the awesome mountain biking in the Redwoods and the recently added downhill at the gondola. People literally travel from all around the world to ride these trails. World famous, literally.Davedj77 wrote:One last defence of Rotorua then I'll give up. Totally disagree. Where can you see the stuff Rotorua has anywhere in the rest of the world? Only a handful of places and Rotorua would probably be the easiest to access. Coromandel is beautiful but is a bit out of the way. September/October, when the OP is here isn't really the ideal time for the Coromandel either. And Waitomo, other than the caves has...what? Plus it is out of the way. Rotorua is on the way south to Taupo, another spot that shouldn't be missed so why would you avoid it? If the wonders of nature don't interest you, maybe if you have been to Yellowstone and it didn't do it for you, sure, give Rotorua a pass. But otherwise as an international tourist you would be mad to bypass Rotorua. You'd be missing a unique part of not just NZ but the world. Just don't go expecting Queenstown like scenery or a pumping nightlife and you'll be fine.Andalu wrote:That's fair. If it sounds and looks like it would be your thing then go for it. I'd recommend Coromandel and Waitomo as tourist spots in that general part of the country over Rotorua though.UncleFB wrote:This Rotorua discussion has gone a bit weird. Any time I hosted someone from overseas Rotorua has always been a well loved stop (and think of how hard it is for someone from Magpies country to say that about Steamers country).
There's lots that 'tourists' like to do and visit, even if a grumpy NZer doesn't.
No euphemism, no.Caley_Red wrote:I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.SilverGrin wrote:If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.
With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism?
I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)usermame wrote:Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.WoodlandsRFC wrote: Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.
Jazz Muller....could well have been him.. you could roll a tractor on a stopbank, or maybe just putting a wheel into a ditch.Seneca of the Night wrote:Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.obelixtim wrote:I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)usermame wrote:Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.WoodlandsRFC wrote: Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.
"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".
Might have been Ken Gray.
Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!SilverGrin wrote:No euphemism, no.Caley_Red wrote:I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.SilverGrin wrote:If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.
With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism?
Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.
It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.
Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.
Just a few minutes north of Marton all the farmland turns to rolling hills.Seneca of the Night wrote:Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.obelixtim wrote:I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)usermame wrote:Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.WoodlandsRFC wrote: Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.
"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".
Might have been Ken Gray.
Yeah, I met his brother a few years back and he told me the family had basically owned all the land on the eastern side of SH1 from Plimmerton to Pukerua Bay.Seneca of the Night wrote:Ken Gray farmed in Plimmerton I think. Marton is flat - how does a tractor roll on someone there? But I think Jazz Muller might have ended up there from memory.obelixtim wrote:I remember a newspaper headline from years ago, after a tractor rolled on an AB forward (can't remember who it was)usermame wrote:Well I'm happy to hear that. I have a soft spot for the place after my 2nd cousin showed me how to ride his motor cycle on his farm there when I must have been, oh, at least 9 or 10. I was always a bit miffed a tractor rolled on him.WoodlandsRFC wrote: Marton truly epitomises the (not so) rural Kiwi former service town cum intellectual mecca, Its no wonder it was on the shortlist for NZs most beautiful town in 1983.
"Tractor damaged when rolling on All Black forward".
Might have been Ken Gray.
I'll certainly take you up on the beer!frillage wrote:Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!SilverGrin wrote:No euphemism, no.Caley_Red wrote:I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.SilverGrin wrote:If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.
With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism?
Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.
It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.
Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.
Well if you do make it to the recommended Taupo pie shop I can meet you at a pub later to wash it down.Caley_Red wrote:Also, a general thanks to everyone who has contributed so far- I've begun transcribing the recommendations into a route complete with pie stops
I am not going until Sept but will post my finalized route and rough dates in case anyone knows of another pie shop or pub in the vicinity
KumaraPat the Ex Mat wrote:The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie....
Really? They spell it that way here.Kiwias wrote:KumaraPat the Ex Mat wrote:The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie....
Fat Bastard pies in Invercargill is probably not too bad. There's numerous bakeries in Welly. You'll be right, we love our pies.Caley_Red wrote:Also, a general thanks to everyone who has contributed so far- I've begun transcribing the recommendations into a route complete with pie stops
I am not going until Sept but will post my finalized route and rough dates in case anyone knows of another pie shop or pub in the vicinity
I've heard Starters bar in Dunedin is a popular stop amongst Scottish expats.Caley_Red wrote:I'll certainly take you up on the beer!frillage wrote:Not a euphemism, but he only needs the pillion for the ride to the peninsula!SilverGrin wrote:No euphemism, no.Caley_Red wrote:I'll 100% be making it to Dunedin as it's one of the places I've always wanted to go! Just been looking at google images of it now.SilverGrin wrote:If you make it to Dunedin, get in touch and I can take you for a ride down the peninsula on the back of my bike.
With the smile from that avatar, your offer wouldn't happen to be a euphemism?
Easy enough to bolt the pillion seat on.
It's a pretty neat way to enjoy the countryside IMO.
Don't feel obliged to, I'm happy enough to meet up for a quiet beer.
I haven't been on a motorbike since I crashed one in Cambodia (about 20 mins after the first 2017 Lions - AB test concluded) so will have to banish the fear!
Are there any old school pubs in Dunedin? I am hoping they have also replicated the Edinburgh pubs. .
I've never seen it spelt with an 'e'Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Really? They spell it that way here.Kiwias wrote:KumaraPat the Ex Mat wrote:The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie....
I have but it's incorrect.Kiwias wrote:I've never seen it spelt with an 'e'Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Really? They spell it that way here.Kiwias wrote:KumaraPat the Ex Mat wrote:The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie....
Pom actually!booji boy wrote:I have but it's incorrect.Kiwias wrote:I've never seen it spelt with an 'e'Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Really? They spell it that way here.Kiwias wrote:KumaraPat the Ex Mat wrote:The Pie shop in Keri Keri does a magnificent Kumera and Lamb pie....
Pat the Ex Mat is in Aussie though isn't he so the misspelling is not surprising.
To be fair there's nothing more annoying than a slow tourist driver who has no clue about how to go around a corner and there aren't that many straight sections where a pass can be made safely in much of the country.guy smiley wrote:
EDIT... can't overestimate the tight, winding nature of the roads enough. It's slow going at times with a lot of heavy truck traffic to negotiate and Kiwi drivers are impatient. They'll sit right on your arse... it shits me.
I've found if one is tail gated that giving four seconds between the rear of the car in front and the front of the car in the rear tends to encourage more space behind one. But yes.guy smiley wrote:EDIT... can't overestimate the tight, winding nature of the roads enough. It's slow going at times with a lot of heavy truck traffic to negotiate and Kiwi drivers are impatient. They'll sit right on your arse... it shits me.
Many will tail whilst in a queue.deadduck wrote:If someone is tailing you, pull over and let them pass.
Agreed, turn off just prior to Ashburton I believe, avoid Ashburton, Timaru and Oamaru. It's not that they're bad towns, but there's certainly far better things to see between CHCH and Moeraki. Personally would have driven down the West Coast via Lewis or Arthur's pass, and returned back up the South Island via Alexandra and the Lindis Pass. But hey, that's just a local South Islanders opinion.deadduck wrote:Yes if time is not a factor definitely go from Christchurch inland via Geraldine to Lake Tekapo then to Omarama back down SH83 to Oamaru and down to Moeraki. Mt Cook village is along this road to, with the drive up the side of Lake Pukaki being a stunning one.
You can probably skip Timaru altogether. A more wretched hive of scum and villainy you will not find
WoodlandsRFC wrote:Agreed, turn off just prior to Ashburton I believe, avoid Ashburton, Timaru and Oamaru. It's not that they're bad towns, but there's certainly far better things to see between CHCH and Moeraki. Personally would have driven down the West Coast via Lewis or Arthur's pass, and returned back up the South Island via Alexandra and the Lindis Pass. But hey, that's just a local South Islanders opinion.deadduck wrote:Yes if time is not a factor definitely go from Christchurch inland via Geraldine to Lake Tekapo then to Omarama back down SH83 to Oamaru and down to Moeraki. Mt Cook village is along this road to, with the drive up the side of Lake Pukaki being a stunning one.
You can probably skip Timaru altogether. A more wretched hive of scum and villainy you will not find
Either or, hopefully Caley Red isn't skipping over Abel Tasman National Park etc but I'm sure he can visit those on the way back up. Via the Catlin's, Te Anau, Milford Sound, Queenstown and Wanaka back up the West Coast.deadduck wrote:WoodlandsRFC wrote:Agreed, turn off just prior to Ashburton I believe, avoid Ashburton, Timaru and Oamaru. It's not that they're bad towns, but there's certainly far better things to see between CHCH and Moeraki. Personally would have driven down the West Coast via Lewis or Arthur's pass, and returned back up the South Island via Alexandra and the Lindis Pass. But hey, that's just a local South Islanders opinion.deadduck wrote:Yes if time is not a factor definitely go from Christchurch inland via Geraldine to Lake Tekapo then to Omarama back down SH83 to Oamaru and down to Moeraki. Mt Cook village is along this road to, with the drive up the side of Lake Pukaki being a stunning one.
You can probably skip Timaru altogether. A more wretched hive of scum and villainy you will not find
You can go straight out from Christchurch on West Coast Rd, use SH77 and SH72. Stunning drive, especially when there's snow about.
I usually do the West Coast on the return north.