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Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:05 pm
by Jeff the Bear
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
Tbf, is that different to any other sport on the planet?

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:16 pm
by Leinsterman
iarmhiman wrote:With the Kinihans?

That's way worse. Hell regret that.
Remember the pub brawl in Dublin a few months ago? He made enemies with the wrong lads and had to send a suitcase of cash over to Dubai to say sorry. :uhoh:

He's a Grade A plonker and is really on the road to a nasty end if he keeps up the smack talk. It's not Goodfellas.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:01 pm
by FullbackAce
Sonny Blount wrote:
FullbackAce wrote:
Flametop wrote: Just kidding, you seem to have a university level knowledge of the various ethnicities.

:lol:

How come you are so well read?

I'm not well read, I'm just super interested in history and anthropology. especially when it comes to caucasus, used to read History books for fun as a kid.

Here if you wanna know why I have no love for Dags read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lekianoba

A principle of western society is people are judged as individuals.

I judge Nurmagomedov and McGregor as Connor and Khabib, not as Irish and Dagestan.
Yes, but allow me to hold a rifle while giving them the benefit of the doubt :D
love how guy on the left casually joins the party in with his pistol.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:35 pm
by redderneck
Knackers gonna knack.

Cockfighters gonna cock.

For once I'm with Earl. Best outcome would have been for an asteroid to hit the frigging arena.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:38 pm
by Lord Denning
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
Literally.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:57 am
by Anonymous 1
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
They can't really be accused of turning a blind eye to that incident. They used it as part of their promotion for the fight. So take that back

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:00 am
by The Native
Anonymous. wrote:
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
They can't really be accused of turning a blind eye to that incident. They used it as part of their promotion for the fight. So take that back
Tacitly accepted it then.

The only issue with Nurmagomedov is that he's Russian (villain) and Muslim (villain) and the yanks don't like that shit.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:39 am
by Frodder
Watched this on YouTube and the 1st time I've watched UFC ever. Won't be in a rush to watch again

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:46 am
by The Native
Frodder wrote:Watched this on YouTube and the 1st time I've watched UFC ever. Won't be in a rush to watch again
That's it guys. We can lock and delete the thread now.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:56 am
by Frodder
The Native wrote:
Frodder wrote:Watched this on YouTube and the 1st time I've watched UFC ever. Won't be in a rush to watch again
That's it guys. We can lock and delete the thread now.
Thank you

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:53 am
by Turbogoat
Christ, the WWE crossover with Brock Lesnar and Ronda Rousey is complete.

The UFC might condemn the actions, but they can't buy this kind of publicity/ notoriety.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:21 pm
by comets
well we already know Irish are kanrts when it comes to rugby, apparently UFC too..yeah can't wait to see McGregor join WWE and team up with Brock lesnar

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:30 pm
by eldanielfire
Leinsterman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:With the Kinihans?

That's way worse. Hell regret that.
Remember the pub brawl in Dublin a few months ago? He made enemies with the wrong lads and had to send a suitcase of cash over to Dubai to say sorry. :uhoh:

He's a Grade A plonker and is really on the road to a nasty end if he keeps up the smack talk. It's not Goodfellas.
Surely Goodfellas is the definitive morality tale for showing smack talking big mouths will meet a nasty end?

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:54 pm
by iarmhiman
comets wrote:well we already know Irish are kanrts when it comes to rugby, apparently UFC too..yeah can't wait to see McGregor join WWE and team up with Brock lesnar
Nah Irish rugby lads are a great bunch of lads.

Ufc fans are knackers though

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:09 pm
by Rugby2023
Jeff the Bear wrote:
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
Tbf, is that different to any other sport on the planet?
No different to boxing that's for sure, and that's probably their template in terms of generating hype (Dana White is a boxing fan).

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:42 pm
by Burke's Boot
There's an Irish rugby jumper in there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... ZhduV6cRZ8

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:46 pm
by Denirostaxidriver
Is this a different demographic than your football fans which don't seem to ever be caught up in any troubles?

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:56 pm
by Nolanator
Mog The Almighty wrote:Whether you personally like him or not is irrelevant. The Irish lost a world champion.
I don't care a jot. :thumbup:

Actually, that's not entirely true. I care in the sense that this is a big loss to the ridiculous fan club that thinks the jumped up scumbag with a big mouth is a role model.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:57 pm
by iarmhiman
Denirostaxidriver wrote:Is this a different demographic than your football fans which don't seem to ever be caught up in any troubles?
Same demographic mainly with added scumbags.

Football fans perform self policing as they are very aware of their reputation while travelling.

Not so it seems when the sport is UFC

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:58 pm
by Leinsterman
eldanielfire wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:With the Kinihans?

That's way worse. Hell regret that.
Remember the pub brawl in Dublin a few months ago? He made enemies with the wrong lads and had to send a suitcase of cash over to Dubai to say sorry. :uhoh:

He's a Grade A plonker and is really on the road to a nasty end if he keeps up the smack talk. It's not Goodfellas.
Surely Goodfellas is the definitive morality tale for showing smack talking big mouths will meet a nasty end?
Good point actually! :lol:

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:59 pm
by Nolanator
Leinsterman wrote:I feel sorry for McGregor's parents because they actually are lovely people.
Did you not see that video where his dad made a big fuss about how all the change he got from the Luas ticket machine wouldn't fit comfortably into his custom tailored Hugo Boss jacket?
Came across as a complete bellend.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:00 pm
by Leinsterman
Nolanator wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:I feel sorry for McGregor's parents because they actually are lovely people.
Did you not see that video where his dad made a big fuss about how all the change he got from the Luas ticket machine wouldn't fit comfortably into his custom tailored Hugo Boss jacket?
Came across as a complete bellend.
That was stupid alright but he's actually sound. The mother is incredibly nice.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:03 pm
by Nolanator
Leinsterman wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:I feel sorry for McGregor's parents because they actually are lovely people.
Did you not see that video where his dad made a big fuss about how all the change he got from the Luas ticket machine wouldn't fit comfortably into his custom tailored Hugo Boss jacket?
Came across as a complete bellend.
That was stupid alright but he's actually sound. The mother is incredibly nice.
I'll be honest, that is the single thing I know about his family, not aware of anything else.

Had a taxi driver years ago who claimed to be McGregor's brother in law. Had only good things to say about him, outside of the stage persona. I've heard that lots, but McGregor just acts the mouthy wit kant so much that I just can't like him, even if I can recognise that he's very good at what he does. The hero worship annoys the shit out of me.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:04 pm
by Last Line
I guess this fight was one for the purists as most of it was spent on the ground? Still, the win was emphatic and I cannot see where McG goes from here, other than onto another highly lucrative fight.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:05 pm
by iarmhiman
I just plain don't like him.

He needs to show respect to his competitors.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:06 pm
by iarmhiman
Last Line wrote:I guess this fight was one for the purists as most of it was spent on the ground? Still, the win was emphatic and I cannot see where McG goes from here, other than onto another highly lucrative fight.
Only fighter who will beat Khabib is another specialised wrestler.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:09 pm
by Leinsterman
Nolanator wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:I feel sorry for McGregor's parents because they actually are lovely people.
Did you not see that video where his dad made a big fuss about how all the change he got from the Luas ticket machine wouldn't fit comfortably into his custom tailored Hugo Boss jacket?
Came across as a complete bellend.
That was stupid alright but he's actually sound. The mother is incredibly nice.
I'll be honest, that is the single thing I know about his family, not aware of anything else.

Had a taxi driver years ago who claimed to be McGregor's brother in law. Had only good things to say about him, outside of the stage persona. I've heard that lots, but McGregor just acts the mouthy plum so much that I just can't like him, even if I can recognise that he's very good at what he does. The hero worship annoys the shit out of me.

The problem is that the stage persona seems to be taking over - net result of that was his run-in with the Kinehan.shower in the pub a while back.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:19 pm
by Diego
Impressionable idiots also see him as a role model and start acting like him.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:22 pm
by Nolanator
Diego wrote:Impressionable idiots also see him as a role model and start acting like him.
If there was one element of him that they should mimic, it's his absolute dedication to training and bringing extra coaches on-board to improve his abilities etc.
He's in serious athletic shape, but acts like a complete wit kant. Which aspect do you think people find easier to copy?

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:41 pm
by Bullettyme
His whiskey is relabelled stuff bought from other producers.

The hero worship of him really grates on me, mostlh because it doesn't focus on his athletic abilities but rather his "wit and charisma". His wit and charisma comes down to boasting about his penis size, telling people to shut up and speaking with a Dublin/irish accent whilst wearing suits and shades indoors.

I think there's better Irish role models and hero worship fodder out there.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:52 pm
by unseenwork
Bullettyme wrote:His whiskey is relabelled stuff bought from other producers.

The hero worship of him really grates on me, mostlh because it doesn't focus on his athletic abilities but rather his "wit and charisma". His wit and charisma comes down to boasting about his penis size, telling people to shut up and speaking with a Dublin/irish accent whilst wearing suits and shades indoors.

I think there's better Irish role models and hero worship fodder out there.
3 year old Bushmills blend, in an awful bottle, with awful quality labels.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:54 pm
by Bullettyme
Proddy whiskey and all x(

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:35 pm
by MunsterMan!!!!!
It's shit, I'd have it a level about powers or Paddy's, hot whiskey territory, IMHO.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:05 pm
by eugenefraxby
If the average UFC fan switched to watching pantomimes it would save a lot of blood, bus repairs, and shit whiskey. The rest of it needs no adjustment.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:09 pm
by Flametop
Reckon McGregor will spark him next time.
It was always a bad match up for both of them.
Khabib was right about one thing, McGregor could use a good humbling. It will do him the world of good.

*cue training scene lifting trees in Russian snow, near log cabin, followed by fight in front of partisan crowd in Moscow*

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:20 pm
by eugenefraxby
Just a thought. Would MMA fans on here watch Bradley v Provodnikov and provide me with a comparable mixed code scrap that gets near it? I cannot gain comparable excitement/enjoyment much as I’ve tried since the open category era with Royce / Goodrich and so on. It’s a redundant combat spectacle now, one half decent opening all over, flawed format.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:23 pm
by The Native
Flametop wrote:Reckon McGregor will spark him next time.
It was always a bad match up for both of them.
Khabib was right about one thing, McGregor could use a good humbling. It will do him the world of good.

*cue training scene lifting trees in Russian snow, near log cabin, followed by fight in front of partisan crowd in Moscow*
Can't see it happening. Khabib has seen him off and will only be better prepared when/if there is a rematch. And McGregor is too lazy to address his weaknesses. Tony Ferguson would probably beat McGregor.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:29 pm
by Flametop
The Native wrote:
Flametop wrote:Reckon McGregor will spark him next time.
It was always a bad match up for both of them.
Khabib was right about one thing, McGregor could use a good humbling. It will do him the world of good.

*cue training scene lifting trees in Russian snow, near log cabin, followed by fight in front of partisan crowd in Moscow*
Can't see it happening. Khabib has seen him off and will only be better prepared when/if there is a rematch. And McGregor is too lazy to address his weaknesses. Tony Ferguson would probably beat McGregor.
It depends on how much McGregor wants it.
He’s not really hungry any more, he has everything he has ever wanted.
That takes a huge edge off in the fight game where one mistake can cost.

His crucial mistake (and where Khabib did his homework) is that he is used to touching his smaller opponents with his right hand in order to gauge the distance, knowing that he is then in reach for the big left hand, while his opponent isn’t.
Khabib being bigger waited for McGregor to touch him and then immediately landed the game changing overhand right, using the touch to know he was also in range.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:57 pm
by Jeff the Bear
Rugby2023 wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
thor wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:The UFC doesn't aim to be a clown show. And if you don't know that, you don't know UFC. They've fought tooth and nail for every inch of respectability they can get since day #1. This sets them back big time. Yes a Conor Khabib rematch might bring in big dollars as a novelty one-off, mean time every other UFC fighter and event suffers big time as casual observers who were just beginning to pay attention turn off in droves. Forest for the trees.
Conor with a gang storm into a stadium, attack a bus including throwing dolly's into the window resulting in 2 people getting injured, one with glass in his eye. The UFCs response to this was to give Conor a title shot. There is nothing respectable about this.

All the UFC has done is shown they will pretty much turn a blind eye as long as you can bring the dollars. By following that line they enabled yesterday to happen
Tbf, is that different to any other sport on the planet?
No different to boxing that's for sure, and that's probably their template in terms of generating hype (Dana White is a boxing fan).
Lance in cycling. Tiger in golf. Footballers screeching at refs. Loads of bad behaviour is let slide because those athletes bring in the big bucks. No one wants to stop the gravy train.

Re: The Official Nurmagomedov v McGregor UFC229 mega fight !

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:03 pm
by Gospel
Jeff the Bear wrote:Lance in cycling. Tiger in golf. Footballers screeching at refs. Loads of bad behaviour is let slide because those athletes bring in the big bucks. No one wants to stop the gravy train.
Bit unfair on Tiger Woods. Since when is it bad behaviour for sports stars to cheat on their wives?