All Blacks vs Wallabies Tokyo 27 October

Farva · Post by **Farva** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:47 pm

Reece Hodge out of the spring tour with a broken ankle.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:14 pm

Farva wrote:Reece Hodge out of the spring tour with a broken ankle.

Yeah. Olo was saying..

Olo wrote:Hodge and Cottrell both out injured apparently. Hodge our for the whole tour.

Zakar · Post by **Zakar** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:36 pm

Shame to lose Hodge. Other than DHP, he was our best outside back in TRC. Jury is out if 13 is his best possie, but he was good there all RC without being outstanding. Not bad since he hasn't had a lot of time there on attack.

That said, I'm excited to see JP in gold. He oozes class.

Shame for Cotties, thought he'd get his first cap off the bench Vs the ABs.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:47 pm

I would have Hodge as the long term 13. If TK or Kerevi are good enough they can force their way in but I think Hodge have more potential to grow into the role. We really should be using his line kicking more especially from penalties.

comets · Post by **comets** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:42 am

said it multiple times, hodge is NOT a 13, he is only in the team because he can kick 70m, fullstop. Rebels should have developed him as a 10 but that won't be happening it seems ..13 is open right now, Will cheika go LOCO and put Kerevi there (it could work if kerevi gets his fitness up) or go fora safe option and put Folau there (also can work but Folau seems to hate playing there) or go on attack mode and put Naivalu there (he has proven to be ok at 13 with the rebs) or will think outside the box and in the long run and put JP there... Chieks has 4 options, wonder what he will do... as it stands, Kerevi looks like the obvious choice (cheika is a open book)

Olo · Post by **Olo** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:46 am

What about TK? He has been the best 13 recently.
I would stick Petaia in there ASAP and develop him with TK as the back up.

Kerevi on the bench to cover 12 for now

comets · Post by **comets** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:16 am

Olo wrote:What about TK? He has been the best 13 recently.
I would stick Petaia in there ASAP and develop him with TK as the back up.

Kerevi on the bench to cover 12 for now

Tk still injured, won't be back before December unless cheika speeds up his process..funny the village TK is from is the same village where Naholo went to get healed fora broken bone in 6 weeks, not sure why he hasn't sough that witch doctor yet..

Brumbieman · Post by **Brumbieman** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:32 am

Comfrey (what Naholo got stuck into) doesn't work on muscles, just bones.

mightyreds · Post by **mightyreds** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:44 pm

Btw, my lobbying for Petaia isn't a criticism of Hodge - he has done everything that could be asked of him, as Zakar (and, I think, Olo) have said. He's a great utility back, while Petaia is a classic 13, so I am in favour of Hodge on the bench, as he can step into any position and fill it with distinction, as the need arises.

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:16 pm

If the AB's lose to a 7th ranked team, does Ireland become #1?

Toro · Post by **Toro** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:48 pm

That's shame for Hodge and big blow for the Wobs tour.

Really hoping RMo gets a start for this game with BB at 15 and Dmac on the bench.

obelixtim · Post by **obelixtim** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:11 pm

RMo will get the slot against Japan.

obelixtim · Post by **obelixtim** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:11 pm

RMo will get the slot against Japan.

Toro · Post by **Toro** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:22 pm

obelixtim wrote:RMo will get the slot against Japan.

You don't think RMo has jumped Dmac in the 10 pecking order? DMac is still 10 cover and hasn't played the for god knows how long, since the French test he started? I would've thought he'd be there for the Japan game, RMo is going to be a massive part to any possible success on the EOYT. (IMHO)

obelixtim · Post by **obelixtim** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:33 pm

Toro wrote:
obelixtim wrote:RMo will get the slot against Japan.
You don't think RMo has jumped Dmac in the 10 pecking order? DMac is still 10 cover and hasn't played the for god knows how long, since the French test he started? I would've thought he'd be there for the Japan game, RMo is going to be a massive part to any possible success on the EOYT. (IMHO)

Nah, Shag will stick with BB at 10 for the Wobs, with DMac as supersub, who might get 20 minutes at the end with BB going to 15.

I think RMo will take Soapys role, with DMac playing the role BB played up till RWC 2015. RMo should start against Japan, Italy and maybe Scotland. DMac would benefit from another season at 10 for the Chiefs, while RMo is the specialist they need if BB goes down. I can see both RMo and DMac being on the bench for most games. They both need game time, but time is getting short before RWC 2019.

Zakar · Post by **Zakar** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:36 pm

comets wrote:said it multiple times, hodge is NOT a 13, he is only in the team because he can kick 70m, fullstop. Rebels should have developed him as a 10 but that won't be happening it seems ..13 is open right now, Will cheika go LOCO and put Kerevi there (it could work if kerevi gets his fitness up) or go fora safe option and put Folau there (also can work but Folau seems to hate playing there) or go on attack mode and put Naivalu there (he has proven to be ok at 13 with the rebs) or will think outside the box and in the long run and put JP there... Chieks has 4 options, wonder what he will do... as it stands, Kerevi looks like the obvious choice (cheika is a open book)

Every time you post it makes baby Jesus cry.

comets · Post by **comets** » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:31 pm

Zakar wrote:
comets wrote:said it multiple times, hodge is NOT a 13, he is only in the team because he can kick 70m, fullstop. Rebels should have developed him as a 10 but that won't be happening it seems ..13 is open right now, Will cheika go LOCO and put Kerevi there (it could work if kerevi gets his fitness up) or go fora safe option and put Folau there (also can work but Folau seems to hate playing there) or go on attack mode and put Naivalu there (he has proven to be ok at 13 with the rebs) or will think outside the box and in the long run and put JP there... Chieks has 4 options, wonder what he will do... as it stands, Kerevi looks like the obvious choice (cheika is a open book)
Every time you post it makes baby Jesus cry.

good, that SOB destroyed billions of life..

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:43 am

saffer13 wrote:If the AB's lose to a 7th ranked team, does Ireland become #1?

All Blacks are on 92, Ireland 90.

A draw sees NZ drop 1 ranking point.

1-15 point loss NZ drop 2 ranking points.

15+ point loss NZ drop 3 ranking points.

comets · Post by **comets** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:47 am

when was the last time NZ was ranked 2nd? 2007?

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:51 am

comets wrote:when was the last time NZ was ranked 2nd? 2007?

NZ were briefly 2nd during the third quarter of 2009 after 3 straight losses to Boks. Back to 1st by Dec 09.

kiwigreg369 · Post by **kiwigreg369** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:17 am

when are the teams out?

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:50 am

kiwigreg369 wrote:when are the teams out?

Just before kick-off, I presume.

comets · Post by **comets** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:10 am

Kiwias wrote:
kiwigreg369 wrote:when are the teams out?
Just before kick-off, I presume.

nah before the national anthems..

comets · Post by **comets** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:15 am

goodhue not going so Laumape at 12/13, If laumape is starting, they need kerevi at 13 cause Laumape will turn Beale into roadkill..

FujiKiwi · Post by **FujiKiwi** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:16 am

comets wrote:goodhue not going so Laumape at 12/13, If laumape is starting, they need kerevi at 13 cause Laumape will turn Beale into roadkill..

What?

I'm sure Goodhue is there.

EDIT: Sorry, no, you're right. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/a ... d=12145347

The Native · Post by **The Native** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:18 am

It'll be a SBW & Crotty midfield with ALB on the bench.

Laumape will get a run against the Japanese I reckon.

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:37 am

Fox sports saying Kerevi will be on the bench and Folau at 13.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wall ... 27acef2e96

Olo · Post by **Olo** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:48 am

mojo wrote:Fox sports saying Kerevi will be on the bench and Folau at 13.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wall ... 27acef2e96

That would be the best combo this week. Kerevi covers 12/13 and most likely Maddocks and Koroibete on the wings. Banks or Naivalu on the bench.
Folau has played 13 quite a bit for the Tahs and often is positioned there in attack for the Wobs.

naki · Post by **naki** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:08 am

Punters could do worse than putting a few quid on the Wobs this weekend. No doubt the odds will adjust once the teams are named but the ABs will of course be heavy favourites, but look at Dead Bled history outside of NZ;

2017 - 5 point AU win in Brisbane
2014 - last gasp AB win in Brisbane
2012 - draw in ... fvcking Brisbane
2010 - “bring on the World Cup” in Honkers

comets · Post by **comets** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:49 am

honestly, this is a game where u want DHP on one wing cause Maddocks will get roasted by Rieko...Chieka grow a pair, if Folau is at 13, Banks at 15.

mightyreds · Post by **mightyreds** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:27 pm

mojo wrote:Fox sports saying Kerevi will be on the bench and Folau at 13.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wall ... 27acef2e96

Hope they're right - I'd like to see that.

saffer13 · Post by **saffer13** » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:09 pm

mr bungle wrote:
saffer13 wrote:If the AB's lose to a 7th ranked team, does Ireland become #1?
All Blacks are on 92, Ireland 90.

A draw sees NZ drop 1 ranking point.

1-15 point loss NZ drop 2 ranking points.

15+ point loss NZ drop 3 ranking points.

kiwigreg369 · Post by **kiwigreg369** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:39 am

ABs vs Aus - in two days - bottom of page two.

Not good...

Let’s see the teams and throw some abuse...

naki · Post by **naki** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:05 am

15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Ben Smith, 13. Ryan Crotty, 12. Sonny Bill Williams, 11. Rieko Ioane, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. TJ Perenara, 8. Kieran Read ©, 7. Ardie Savea, 6. Liam Squire, 5. Scott Barrett, 4. Sam Whitelock, 3. Owen Franks, 2. Codie Taylor, 1. Joe Moody.

Reserves: 16. Nathan Harris, 17. Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18. Nepo Laulala, 19. Brodie Retallick, 20. Matt Todd, 21. Aaron Smith, 22. Richie Mo'unga, 23. Anton Lienert-Brown.

That bench. Wanking emoji.

Kiwias · Post by **Kiwias** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:07 am

Shag The Merciless.

BB heading to 15 and RMo at 10 with 30 to go?

naki · Post by **naki** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:15 am

Kiwias wrote:Shag The Merciless.

BB heading to 15 and RMo at 10 with 30 to go?

It’s been working...

My only concerns are DMacs occasional flakiness when starting, regardless of the position, and the likes of Brodie and Todd being a bit underdone.

Glad they’re not rushing Coles back

badmannotinjapan · Post by **badmannotinjapan** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:20 am

If the forwards do the bizzo D.Mac will be sweet.

guy smiley · Post by **guy smiley** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:24 am

naki wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Shag The Merciless.

BB heading to 15 and RMo at 10 with 30 to go?
It’s been working...

My only concerns are DMacs occasional flakiness when starting, regardless of the position, and the likes of Brodie and Todd being a bit underdone.

Glad they’re not rushing Coles back

In a world that sees us subjected to variable starting line ups for various reasons or random whimsy, that line up is one I can live with. There are swaps like TJP and Smith and Ardie starting fits with Todd's rustiness... these things are easy to deal with.

I'm intrigued at DMac starting at FB. On one hand he's maybe the next best option in light of Jordie's drug induced performances there but the other side of the selection is his blinding speed. He and Ben from Accounts managing paperwork at the back there suggests some speedy processing of invoices if delivery is managed well.

If things go awry at all, then RMo coming on is an option that pressures both BB and DMac to deliver and keep it sensible.

jdogscoop · Post by **jdogscoop** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:26 am

Can I just be on the record stating I heart the idea of Mo'unga coming on after 50 minutes with Barrett dropping back to fullback.

Peteray · Post by **Peteray** » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:37 am

It seems strange that Smith is usurped at 9. Perenara hasn't been that brilliant in spite of coming on against tiring packs, and was embarrassingly run down by Whiteley just a couple of weeks back. On the whole, with Goodhue unavailable, it's a pretty solid team with Naholo the unluckiest. He could still play a big part in the RWC though, as he and Reiko are the only specialist wings, and they won't want Reiko to play every week.