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Barrett try first over the Stander try in second place.

The other tries have breakdowns between the beginning and end which lessen them a bit,for me.
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NZ getting the rub if the green again (apparently) with this from the comments:
That Brodie Retalick try cant be awarded. He never showed daylight in that tackle. He was straight on the ball in the tackle. No way. Give it to the weak ref
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Dyanti's try against the AB's in Wellington was a great.
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1. Maitland try v England. Had everything, end to end, every player involved. Brilliant.
2. Retalick - Lovely show and go for lurch. Great that be started and finished the try too.
3. Barret - Great try, but was more damning on the D than anything.
4.. Stander - Good try, but nothing special by any means.


Surprised not to see one of the Saffa tries this year.

Not a good look for Australia or England defence either :blush:
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Maitlands for me
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Zakar wrote:1. Maitland try v England. Had everything, end to end, every player involved. Brilliant.
2. Retalick - Lovely show and go for lurch. Great that be started and finished the try too.
3. Barret - Great try, but was more damning on the D than anything.
4.. Stander - Good try, but nothing special by any means.
All this.

For a try of the year nominee Stander’s was pretty mundane.
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I reckon Beauden Barrett's scored two other tries that are superior to that Stander effort (the individual one in test 2 vs Australia and the one of the set move last weekend). It's not a bad try, but doesn't belong on a Try of the Year shortlist by any means.
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All fine tries TBH. I’m enormously biased towards Maitland, naturally, if only for the outrageous Finn Russell pass. After that though I’d take the Barrett one, then Retallick. The Stander one has a lot of nice offloads but isn’t as good as the others.
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1. Scot
2. ABs
3. ABs
4. Ire

I wanna make babies with that Finn Russell pass. Absolutely lovely.
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RWC2015 wrote:1. Scot
2. ABs
3. ABs
4. Ire

I wanna make babies with that Finn Russell pass. Absolutely lovely.
Yeah.

I am ok with either Retalick or Maitland getting the nod for that. Sublime stuff. Barrett try had some God awful tackling. Stander try was very good but not outstanding like the other three.
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I was there with wee-weegie occasionally of this parish for the Scotland try. I expect him to be telling his grandchildren about it.

It was one of those occasions you think you have seen something almost glorious being snuffed out, then come again, and again as the crowd get utterly delirious. I have never, ever heard Murrayfield that loud.

Twickenham the previous year was the first Scotland away game I'd taken him too. This somewhat made up for that.
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Barrett's try is really something, McKenzie in full flight is so great to watch, but Maitland for me. I could still watch the Finn Russell pass all day, and I've watched it loads.
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Edinburgh01 wrote:
I was there with wee-weegie occasionally of this parish for the Scotland try. I expect him to be telling his grandchildren about it.

It was one of those occasions you think you have seen something almost glorious being snuffed out, then come again, and again as the crowd get utterly delirious. I have never, ever heard Murrayfield that loud.

Twickenham the previous year was the first Scotland away game I'd taken him too. This somewhat made up for that.
I actually think that the breakdowns make the try better, not worse, because it wasn’t all about one move that caught the defence out. There was a lot of work still to do after that, and it ended up a real team effort.
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Brodie's and Maitland's are my top two
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RWC2015 wrote:1. Scot
2. ABs
3. ABs
4. Ire

I wanna make babies with that Finn Russell pass. Absolutely lovely.
Barclay’s spin and offload on the 22 instead of just barging into the defence was also lovely to see. :thumbup:
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I assume Stander's was just thrown in for the paddy clicks. Run of the mill.

Has to be Maitland's for the pass, the other two were just turnstile defence.
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Maitland's try for me, although I am biased.

Number 2 was Retallick's, it was almost as good a 2nd rower dummy as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h0o5kObFpQ :smug:
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Where do we vote? I'm going for the Sweatie try.
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All great tries. Standers try is a bit less spectacular and Retallicks try is superb but it's tough to separate the Maitland and Barrett tries. Both long range beauties. :thumbup:
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Am I the only one not really wowed by the Maitland try? It's a wide pass (bit of a speculator) and then phases up the field and well taken in the corner.
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UncleFB wrote:Am I the only one not really wowed by the Maitland try? It's a wide pass (bit of a speculator) and then phases up the field and well taken in the corner.
The line the centre ran to start it all is a thing of beauty. He had a great game all round in that match.
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booji boy wrote:
UncleFB wrote:Am I the only one not really wowed by the Maitland try? It's a wide pass (bit of a speculator) and then phases up the field and well taken in the corner.
The line the centre ran to start it all is a thing of beauty. He had a great game all round in that match.
I'm not saying there's not some rugby porn in there - I just don't think it's leagues ahead of other rugby porn out there.
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Barrett's try for me.

Rettalick's try was good and all but it was against 14 men. An injured player, who probably would have been in the position to tackle him, had just left the field...apparently.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVR0YNZ ... e=youtu.be

I for some unknown reason decided to watch Brian O'Driscoll describe Standers try..
I nearly had a f**king seizure, it is the most Incoherent load of bullshit I have ever heard spouted by a human being.

That video alone describing the try should automatically disqualify it...
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I know they seem to be looking at long range tries that involve phases of play and lots of people touching the ball but Moyano's try against the All Blacks this year was class.

0:26 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gOlZj0RS4Q
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This is nonsense, flimflam and stink. An award winning try should not go for more than a single phase - the Maitland and Retallick one have at least three phases.

A Try of the Year should be a French Try from the End of the Earth-style blaze of sweeping movement, deception and sweet passing all in one move, or a perfectly executed set-piece move (like the Stander one) or a piece of individual brilliance (like Folau's against Argentina on the Gold Coast).

From the nominees it has to be Stander or Barrett, and given the ABs score tries like Barrett's for fun nearly every weekend it should be the CJ one.
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Thomas wrote:I know they seem to be looking at long range tries that involve phases of play and lots of people touching the ball but Moyano's try against the All Blacks this year was class.

0:26 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gOlZj0RS4Q
Yes, I thought about that one. Shane Williams-esque and fits my now Official standard of one-phase individual brilliance. Pretty poor defense mind but you can only play what's in front of you/what's dancing all around you like a confused ninny.
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Winnie wrote:Maitlands for me
A great team score
That ball to create the break absolutely had to be on the money - a great pass.
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naki wrote:This is nonsense, flimflam and stink. An award winning try should not go for more than a single phase - the Maitland and Retallick one have at least three phases.

A Try of the Year should be a French Try from the End of the Earth-style blaze of sweeping movement, deception and sweet passing all in one move, or a perfectly executed set-piece move (like the Stander one) or a piece of individual brilliance (like Folau's against Argentina on the Gold Coast).

From the nominees it has to be Stander or Barrett, and given the ABs score tries like Barrett's for fun nearly every weekend it should be the CJ one.
Barrett's try from the weekend would be in with a shout - a great set piece play executed perfectly.
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That's bollocks Naki, a multi phase try can be a thing of beauty. Thinking about it, how the fudge did Crotty's try vs Ireland to preserve the perfect season not win that year?
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:That's bollocks Naki, a multi phase try can be a thing of beauty. Thinking about it, how the fudge did Crotty's try vs Ireland to preserve the perfect season not win that year?
NOT FOR AN AWARD JCG.

Of course a multi-phase try can be a thing of beauty. But there is an acceptable rule of thumb - can it be gif'd, and is it short enough to played in full on the big screen while Barrett walks up to the stage to collect yet another award?
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CrazyIslander wrote:Image
Pure rugby porn. Insert Keith Quinn "OH OH" soundbite.
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CrazyIslander wrote:Image
Nah - that is a pretty run of the mill run in a try of an opponent's shit mistake. Dime a dozen.
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CrazyIslander wrote:Image
They're saving that for the Try of the Century award
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naki wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:That's bollocks Naki, a multi phase try can be a thing of beauty. Thinking about it, how the fudge did Crotty's try vs Ireland to preserve the perfect season not win that year?
NOT FOR AN AWARD JCG.

Of course a multi-phase try can be a thing of beauty. But there is an acceptable rule of thumb - can it be gif'd, and is it short enough to played in full on the big screen while Barrett walks up to the stage to collect yet another award?
Turns out it was Barrett that won that year too. But for me, a multi phase effort where everyone touches the ball and no one f*cks it up for 3 minutes while under massive pressure trumps a long range effort vs a French rabble.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
naki wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:That's bollocks Naki, a multi phase try can be a thing of beauty. Thinking about it, how the fudge did Crotty's try vs Ireland to preserve the perfect season not win that year?
NOT FOR AN AWARD JCG.

Of course a multi-phase try can be a thing of beauty. But there is an acceptable rule of thumb - can it be gif'd, and is it short enough to played in full on the big screen while Barrett walks up to the stage to collect yet another award?
Turns out it was Barrett that won that year too. But for me, a multi phase effort where everyone touches the ball and no one f*cks it up for 3 minutes while under massive pressure trumps a long range effort vs a French rabble.
That's not the rules
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naki wrote: That's not the rules
Rugby has LAWS.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
naki wrote: That's not the rules
Rugby has LAWS.
I rule the Maitland try the winner, then.
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