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Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.

Perhaps they didn't.
I did , so I was able to vote.


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MrJonno wrote:
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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:31 pm 
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When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the American flag.


German fascism was not wrapped in the German flag. Nor was the Italian. Nor Spain. Nor Portugal.


German fascism not wrapped in a German flag ?
A pole or frenchy or Belgian or norsk etc type might have said different in 1940-41


I think the point was that it was a taylored made flag for the party.

But it is still a flag indeed.


And while the Facists were in power it was the official German Flag


Yes, indeed.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:40 pm 
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Go after the local councils if they have messed up the voter registration.
And stop whining if you did not complete the documentation.


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case


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Has the predicted decline of Sterling finally started ?

Yesterday was its 13th day of decline against the Euro. A record since the Euro was launched 20 yrs ago.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0 ... movements/



When this reverses it’ll be fun.


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case

Seriously wtf? :uhoh:


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:56 pm 
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So Boris summonsed to court for lying on the bus and Corbyn saying get ready for a GE. Looks like it all hasn't even kicked off yet.



Anyone can bring a court case against anyone , who’s financing the Boris case? And Corbyn said he’d be prime minister last year too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:56 pm 
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case

Seriously wtf? :uhoh:


Did you not know it is illegal to publish an exit poll whilst voting is still taking place? Not all EU countries are even voting today. The elections have not closed.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 8:57 pm 
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


Express has covered this just now. Trouble ahead for them.


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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


Fair enough didn't realise that.

If the FvD are far right, then they have stayed the same


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SamShark wrote:
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


Fair enough didn't realise that.

If the FvD are far right, then they have stayed the same


I think the new party may have taken a kicking too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:11 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)



You got a link, we covered this earlier and Wilders party support has just shifted to a new right wing party.


Fair enough didn't realise that.

If the FvD are far right, then they have stayed the same


I think the new party may have taken a kicking too.



Go Dutchies.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:14 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
c69 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
SamShark wrote:
In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case

Seriously wtf? :uhoh:


Did you not know it is illegal to publish an exit poll whilst voting is still taking place? Not all EU countries are even voting today. The elections have not closed.


https://www.inbrief.co.uk/media-law/pub ... polls-law/

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What is the reasoning behind laws restricting the publication of exit polls?
The publication of such predictions before polls close could arguably affect the election results by influencing those yet to vote. Voters could alter their initial voting intention after hearing that a particular party or candidate has the majority according to the exit polls. Alternatively, a voter may decide not to vote at all because the candidate or party they would have chosen is winning, according to the exit polls, or because their candidate or party does not seem to need any further votes to win.

Laws have been put in place to prevent such potential contamination of the democratic process of electing Members of Parliament or members of local councils.

What does the law actually state on the publication of exit polls?
Section 66A of the Representation of the People Act 1983 (as amended) makes it a criminal offence ‘to publish, before a poll is closed, any statement about the way in which voters have voted in that election, where this statement is, or might reasonably be taken to be, based on information given by voters after they voted’.

It is also an offence under the Act ‘to publish, before a poll is closed, any forecast – including any estimate – of that election result, if the forecast is based on exit poll information from voters, or which might reasonably be taken to be based on it’.

These laws apply to both parliamentary and local elections, elections to the Welsh Assembly and by-elections. The Act applies to exit polls focusing on voting in a particular constituency or ward and to voting patterns nationally. The publication of exit polls is also prohibited during voting for European Parliamentary elections.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
c69 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
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In rare good news the Dutch have rejected their far right party after it gained significant success in the previous 2 Euro elections (if exit polls are to be believed)


Someone has broken the law in that case

Seriously wtf? :uhoh:


Did you not know it is illegal to publish an exit poll whilst voting is still taking place? Not all EU countries are even voting today. The elections have not closed.

That's what I was questioning it, as all the countries need to have voted before these polls from reputable sources come out.
Not a slight on your post, I was actually agreeing with you.


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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


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Cant find where I read it.

Apparently the UK wouldn't even promote the dutch poll.

Exit polls are OK in general - just not results.


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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


No idea. However, The Express should not be doing this.

It certainly should be the case for all nations IMO.


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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


No idea. However, The Express should not be doing this.

It certainly should be the case for all nations IMO.


I think it might be broadcast media that cant mention in the UK


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SamShark wrote:
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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


No idea. However, The Express should not be doing this.

It certainly should be the case for all nations IMO.


I think it might be broadcast media that cant mention in the UK


Broadcast media certainly cannot, that is true.


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All this talk of flags has given me an Eddie Izzard earworm.


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All this talk of flags has given me an Eddie Izzard earworm.


Avoid Eddie Izzard at all costs.


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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.


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I cant remember where I read this but it's just UK law - I think about 11 EU nations publish exit polls


No idea. However, The Express should not be doing this.

It certainly should be the case for all nations IMO.

Why ?

The elections are undertaken under the legislation of the individual countries.

For example the UK uses a modified d'Hondt method, Ireland uses STVPR, others use variations of list PR.

Just as the method of election varies by country, so do the rules and regulations surrounding the elections.

It's a sign of how the EU lets individual country's decide how they want to do something rather than it coming from the centre.


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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.

UK legislation that can be changed in Westminster.


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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


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It would be bizarre if UK exit polls cannot be published due to the possible influence on those countries yet to vote, but the Dutch one can be.

UK legislation that can be changed in Westminster.


Fair point.
I think the UK has a better stance on this issue. But we have a very long history of unbroken democracy.


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SamShark wrote:
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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


You may find the asterix turns up and contributes more than the Brexit party MEPs


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fishfoodie wrote:
SamShark wrote:
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SamShark wrote:
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Government facing calls to launch inquiry into registration EU citizens. Lawyers say there are multiple breaches of EU law and group action possible. Tower Hamlets apologise to German duo. Electoral Commission to launch review of what happened


Electoral Commission blaming secrecy over whether elections would take place.

Not an acceptable excuse IMO, even if I agree it was no doubt unhelpful.

This could run and run, not because in isolation it's the worst thing that's ever happened, but because it's yet another thing that's happened in this divisive, incompetent, pointless Brexit shit show.

No doubt the people crying over milkshake will not have a problem with this - that's the nature of Brexit - bitter division about everything and the prize at the end of it all; fudge all.



I notice our democracy loving brexiteers are silent on this, except to imply that none of them registered properly.


Just the latest in a series

No deal = fine, democracy in action

Electoral law breaking = not a problem

Vote to have a final say on the deal = treachery


It's very nice of the UK to hand the EU a good reason to defer allowing the UK MEPs, taking their seats; while the EU investigates whether or not their elections was legitimate or not.

In the meanwhile, we'll just put an asterix beside their names.


EU can give it a go. What is more likely is that those voters genuinely denied a vote can sue their local council.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


Perhaps we will be forced to vote twice


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I do love how “no deal” disaster has just become a fact.


Hardly - 35% of the population is just about to vote for it, based on the word of a selfish charlatan.




They’re just people who don’t care if there’s short term issues to defend the democracy of the UK.

If you think voting for this spiv is protecting democracy Ive got some magic beans you might be interested in.


Perhaps we will be forced to vote twice

You dont have to vote at all. In fact i suggest you dont.


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I consider it my duty to vote


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You're duty to who? You're fùcking your country.


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