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Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 am
by SamShark
Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
You should be one of those guys in the spin room
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 am
by bimboman
iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
It will be by the time we discuss this in a weeks time and the “no leave mandate “ is back on the table.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:10 am
by Petej
BokJock wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
Exactly...or Snp
Or plaid
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:11 am
by SamShark
bimboman wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
It will be by the time we discuss this in a weeks time and the “no leave mandate “ is back on the table.
Yeah, those pesky votes which don't fit what you want. I thought you were an "absolute democrat"
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:11 am
by iarmhiman
Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
The greens are a pro EU party so Brexiteers wouldn't vote for them.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:11 am
by BokJock
Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
Cause that’s what this was about
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:13 am
by Margin_Walker
Mick Mannock wrote:Margin_Walker wrote:
We're talking Didcot, not Trinity College here.
Well done for noticing Cambridge is not in south Oxfordshire
There you go chief
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_College,_Oxford
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:13 am
by SamShark
You have to count people who voted for remain parties as Brexiteers, otherwise something something treachery.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:13 am
by Wendigo7
Emily Thornberry talking out of her arse here.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:14 am
by Petej
bimboman wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
It will be by the time we discuss this in a weeks time and the “no leave mandate “ is back on the table.
There is a leave mandate. There isn't a no deal mandate or mandate for any individual form of leave. This you know well and I'm sure it just slipped your mind.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:14 am
by Mick Mannock
I take my beatings
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:15 am
by nardol
Margin_Walker wrote:nardol wrote:bimboman wrote:Saint wrote:South Oxfordshire votes LibDem. Greens come in third, pushing the Tories into 4th - in South Oxfordshire FFS.
Replacing May with a hard Brexiteer will backfire fairly spectacularly
In south Oxfordshire , not the whole country....
Education does wonders
We're talking Didcot, not Trinity College here.
Let me have my wild outlandish statements damn you
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:15 am
by SamShark
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:15 am
by Rugby2023
Petej wrote:There is a leave mandate. There isn't a no deal mandate or mandate for any individual form of leave. This you know well and I'm sure it just slipped your mind.
So there is a leave mandate just no mandate to leave...okay
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:15 am
by Salanya
Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
I would suggest that you can't comprehend people who have more than one motivation to vote for a party. I mean, imagine voting for both the environment and to remain in the EU?!
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:15 am
by Plato'sCave
Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
So it’s quite simple, although Hard Brexit is FPTP in the UK, it doesn’t command a % majority, and people were simplistically simpering about the hypothetical will-of-the-people during the year of Westminster wranglings. It turns out all the inaction regarding any specific direction was completely indicative of the electorate aggregate demands.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:16 am
by Dobbin
This is very much the Anglo-Welsh Cup of elections.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:16 am
by Sun Tzu
SamShark wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
You should be one of those guys in the spin room
The Green's number one message is climate change, the Lib Dem's number one message is 'Bollox to Brexit #FBPEU'.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:17 am
by BokJock
Sun Tzu wrote:SamShark wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
You should be one of those guys in the spin room
The Green's number one message is climate change, the Lib Dem's number one message is 'Bollox to Brexit #FBPEU'.
You are being silly
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:18 am
by Plato'sCave
Sun Tzu wrote:SamShark wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
You should be one of those guys in the spin room
The Green's number one message is climate change, the Lib Dem's number one message is 'Bollox to Brexit #FBPEU'.
So, what percentage want a hard Brexit? Ballpark figure, what do you reckon? Clue: what is BP’s percentage vote?
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:20 am
by haunch
Tricky for labour
Burnley (North West) result:
Brex: 40.3% (+40.3)
Lab: 26.3% (-7.4)
LDem: 10.0% (-3.8 )
Grn: 8.4% (+4.6)
Con: 4.8% (-8.0)
UKIP: 2.5% (-26.2)
Wigan (North West) result:
Brex: 48.0% (+48.0)
Lab: 23.3% (-16.3)
LDem: 12.8% (+10.8 )
UKIP: 6.3% (-25.6)
Con: 6.0% (-7.6)
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:20 am
by Petej
Rugby2023 wrote:Petej wrote:There is a leave mandate. There isn't a no deal mandate or mandate for any individual form of leave. This you know well and I'm sure it just slipped your mind.
So there is a leave mandate just no mandate to leave...okay
You are correct. Well no mandate to leave in a specific way. That is why it is such a mess. Blame the silly tosser who wrote the original referendum question assuming a remain win.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:21 am
by nardol
Are all con votes in favour of Mays deal?
All 17 votes....
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:21 am
by iarmhiman
Sun Tzu wrote:SamShark wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
You should be one of those guys in the spin room
The Green's number one message is climate change, the Lib Dem's number one message is 'Bollox to Brexit #FBPEU'.
Ahead of the 2016 referendum, the Green Party campaigned to Remain in the EU, and we’re going to continue to fight for the Britain we believe in.
https://www.greenparty.org.uk/europe-priorities.html
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:21 am
by Wendigo7
Petej wrote:Rugby2023 wrote:Petej wrote:There is a leave mandate. There isn't a no deal mandate or mandate for any individual form of leave. This you know well and I'm sure it just slipped your mind.
So there is a leave mandate just no mandate to leave...okay
You are correct. Well no mandate to leave in a specific way. That is why it is such a mess. Blame the silly tosser who wrote the original referendum question assuming a remain win.
Fair enough
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:22 am
by Rugby2023
Hannan kept his seat.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:22 am
by SamShark
You Gov said, regarding South East:
5 Brexit, 2 Lib Dem, 1 Lab, 1 Con, 1 Green
The actual result was
4 Brex, 3 Lib, 1 Green, 1 Lab, 1 Con
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:23 am
by Rugby2023
Two Alexandra Philips elected, what are the chances?
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:23 am
by Sun Tzu
Salanya wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:iarmhiman wrote:Sun Tzu wrote:It is quite simple. If you were for Remain you voted for the LD's, if you were for Hard Brexit you voted for the Brexit Party. The Brexit Party crushed the LDs.
No amount of spin can change that.
What if the remain vote was split between Lib Dem and greens.
I'd suggest that people voting for the Green's are more concerned about the environment than Brexit.
I would suggest that you can't comprehend people who have more than one motivation to vote for a party. I mean, imagine voting for both the environment and to remain in the EU?!
I'd suggest that your wetdream of Brexit being stopped is clouding your judgement.
I personally stand to lose out if a No Deal Brexit happens because the £ will substantially fall, so I wish the LDs well.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:23 am
by Dobbin
Anyone viewing this as a proxy referendum is a mug
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:24 am
by SamShark
Good tactic for the Brexit Party to say "we need to be part of the negotiating team"
I doubt they will, then "BETRAYAL"
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:26 am
by Wendigo7
Brexit Party heading for 29 MEPs.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:26 am
by Wendigo7
Corbyn talking bollocks to be PM again.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:27 am
by Plato'sCave
SamShark wrote:Good tactic for the Brexit Party to say "we need to be part of the negotiating team"
I doubt they will, then "BETRAYAL"
What will they negotiate?
BP “We don’t want to negotiate”
EU “OK”
BP “No deal”
EU “OK”
It’s probably simpler to be fair.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:29 am
by Salanya
Mark Francois is an absolute cretin. Yet the Beeb keep giving him a microphone
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:30 am
by Rugby2023
Not bad for a 5 week old Party..
@tomhfh
The Brexit Party has already overtaken UKIP's 2014 end of the night seat total.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:33 am
by Sun Tzu
What planet is Jo Swinson on?
Silly bint.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:33 am
by SamShark
North West was predicted to be 3 Brexit, 2 Lab, 1 each for Green, Lib and Con
The result was 3 Brexit, 2 Lib Dem, 2 Lab, Green
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:35 am
by haunch
c69 wrote:Rugby2023 wrote:Not bad for a 5 week old Party..
@tomhfh
The Brexit Party has already overtaken UKIP's 2014 end of the night seat total.
Turning Japanese
Glad I'm not the only one typing one handed.
Re: Brexit, going going.....errr gone after the EU elections
Posted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:35 am
by Rugby2023
The Dane Henrik Nielsen elected for Brexit Party, not so anti-foreigner after all
