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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:59 pm 
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It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.



No surprise you consider force a useful political tool.


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easyray wrote:
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It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.


Yep. Such a coward as well. Somebody 'suggested' there were 3 youths with milkshaes and he shits it.



Remarkable.....


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:14 pm 
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Hang on, surely any politician who gets attacked and stuff thrown should be classed as assault and dealt with harshly ? I don’t think farage + milk = funny, corbyn + egg = not funny

Thought nige dealt with the situation pretty well tbh - where is the scale or arbiter of what is funny substance and what is not ? Is acid funny ? Petrol ?

In these post jo cox days I think politicians and any public figure should have the maximum penalties imposed on assailants to act as a deterrence .


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Hang on, surely any politician who gets attacked and stuff thrown should be classed as assault and dealt with harshly ? I don’t think farage + milk = funny, corbyn + egg = not funny

Thought nige dealt with the situation pretty well tbh - where is the scale or arbiter of what is funny substance and what is not ? Is acid funny ? Petrol ?

In these post jo cox days I think politicians and any public figure should have the maximum penalties imposed on assailants to act as a deterrence .



Yes but apparently this only applies if you agree with the politician ....


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:18 pm 
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backrow wrote:
Hang on, surely any politician who gets attacked and stuff thrown should be classed as assault and dealt with harshly ? I don’t think farage + milk = funny, corbyn + egg = not funny

Thought nige dealt with the situation pretty well tbh - where is the scale or arbiter of what is funny substance and what is not ? Is acid funny ? Petrol ?

In these post jo cox days I think politicians and any public figure should have the maximum penalties imposed on assailants to act as a deterrence .


Food, whatever. Corrosive substances, not funny.

Pretty simple mate.


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bimboman wrote:
SamShark wrote:
It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.



No surprise you consider force a useful political tool.


No surprise you defend lies and demagoguery as a political tool.


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:lol: oh dear feck


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:36 pm 
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SamShark wrote:
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SamShark wrote:
It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.



No surprise you consider force a useful political tool.


No surprise you defend lies and demagoguery as a political tool.



Not wanting politicians attacked is now “defending their policies “?


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:55 pm 
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Taking the piss out of a complete c*nt is now "considering force"?


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It is extraordinary how much hate Brexit creates.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:58 pm 
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Taking the piss out of a complete c*nt is now "considering force"?



Cheering on the use of force is.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:59 pm 
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I like haggis wrote:
backrow wrote:
Hang on, surely any politician who gets attacked and stuff thrown should be classed as assault and dealt with harshly ? I don’t think farage + milk = funny, corbyn + egg = not funny

Thought nige dealt with the situation pretty well tbh - where is the scale or arbiter of what is funny substance and what is not ? Is acid funny ? Petrol ?

In these post jo cox days I think politicians and any public figure should have the maximum penalties imposed on assailants to act as a deterrence .


Food, whatever. Corrosive substances, not funny.

Pretty simple mate.


What if farage was allergic to an ingredient and had a reaction ?

So if someone who doesn’t like you lobs a milkshake on you , that is funny then ?

I loath Corbyn but he’s democratically elected MP and should be allowed to campaign and lecture without getting egged. To me that’s the whole point of democracy, you should be free to speak so long as it’s not directly inciting crimes.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:03 pm 
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To me that’s the whole point of democracy, you should be free to speak so long as it’s not directly inciting crimes.



:thumbup:


There is a clear disconnect between politicians and the constituents who vote for them but social media is the catalyst now for so much of this hatred and aggression.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:05 pm 
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How hard can it be for twats to stop throwing things?

So, stop throwing things, twats.


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Sam, it's all very easy shouting "hard brexit now" from the wings, but going down in the history books as the captain of that ship is another thing.

If there's a new PM before this is sorted, that person is tarred with the Brexit brush. They know all too well the ramifications for the country, they know all too well that they can benefit on the fringes but in no way can look good as PM.



Will the UK be in better health 3 years after leaving the EU than its been in the 3 years since the referendum to leave it?


No


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ForzaIt wrote:
It is extraordinary how much hate Brexit creates.

Yes, I'm sure the husband of Joe Cox agrees.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
How hard can it be for twats to stop throwing things?

So, stop throwing things, twats.

Like bullets? Yes, if we could all stop throwing bullets at people it would be nice.


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The multis are out.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 11:11 pm 
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Leffe wrote:
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It is extraordinary how much hate Brexit creates.

Yes, I'm sure the husband of Joe Cox agrees.

Yes , I'm sure you feel entitled to speak on his behalf


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It's hard to see a way out of the current mess.

Labour are irrelevant unless they change position. Nobody seems to want their "jobs first" Brexit.

Around 30% of the population want no deal, about 55% don't want to leave at all.

We are literally going to do sod all until a new Tory leader, who will be divisive, disliked by huge swathes of the country and will then face the same reality check May did.

Labour of course turned down the chance to block no deal - it's on them as well as whatever hard Brexiteer becomes PM.


I don't think Boris has any plans; once he gets his fat ass inside No. 10; beyond a big bag of coke, & a bunch of hookers.


I'm out


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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It is extraordinary how much hate Brexit creates.

Yes, I'm sure the husband of Joe Cox agrees.

Yes , I'm sure you feel entitled to speak on his behalf

It's just a guess Mick. Maybe hed disagree with me,who's to know... eh?


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Does anyone actually think that Brexit could speed up the potential disintegration of the UK ..... ?


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:59 am 
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SamShark wrote:
It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.

The "cups of milk" isn't really the issue, it's politicians being attacked. Today it might be milk, but there have been those on social media advocating throwing acid. If we're tolerating or encouraging this, how long before some unhinged loon takes it upon themselves to splash a "racist" with acid believing it's justified? Then comes the retribution from the other side. It's a slippery slope I'd really rather our politics didn't go down. We don't have to agree with political views but we can at least agree that people have the freedom to hold them without members of the public physically throwing substances at them. There are legitimate forms of protest, this isn't one of them.

Farage isn't actually "telling" anyone anything, he is lending his voice to what they already believe. If he stopped, they'd rally around someone else who held similar views to theirs. We can't silence people Commie-style because we dont like their message, because ultimately their message comes from how the people feel and clearly the 17.4 million Britons who voted for Brexit are feeling pretty betrayed that we're still in the EU.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:52 am 
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A politician was literally shot and killed for being a remainder.

When you talk about political violence maybe remember that?

Oh, and she was killed by someone shouting the guff Farage and his like are screaming about right now.

And a National Force member was jailed the other day for plotting to kill an MP.

Milkshakes aren't the problem.


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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:58 am 
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I like haggis wrote:
A politician was literally shot and killed for being a remainder.

When you talk about political violence maybe remember that?

Oh, and she was killed by someone shouting the guff Farage and his like are screaming about right now.

And a National Force member was jailed the other day for plotting to kill an MP.

Milkshakes aren't the problem.

It's precisely the point. A Tory councillor was petrol-bombed the other night too.

Enough already, none of it okay, and no one should be encouraging any form of physical attack against politicians.


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Rugby2023 wrote:
SamShark wrote:
It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.

The "cups of milk" isn't really the issue, it's politicians being attacked. Today it might be milk, but there have been those on social media advocating throwing acid. If we're tolerating or encouraging this, how long before some unhinged loon takes it upon themselves to splash a "racist" with acid believing it's justified? Then comes the retribution from the other side. It's a slippery slope I'd really rather our politics didn't go down. We don't have to agree with political views but we can at least agree that people have the freedom to hold them without members of the public physically throwing substances at them. There are legitimate forms of protest, this isn't one of them.

Agree 100% - nobody should be attacked with any substance as it potentially opens the door for more serious attacks - it's just funny that an absolute c*nt who has created an atmosphere like this then feigns fear and outrage.

Farage isn't actually "telling" anyone anything, he is lending his voice to what they already believe. If he stopped, they'd rally around someone else who held similar views to theirs. We can't silence people Commie-style because we dont like their message, because ultimately their message comes from how the people feel and clearly the 17.4 million Britons who voted for Brexit are feeling pretty betrayed that we're still in the EU.

Farage takes it to a new level - a level he knows there's no way back from, but he doesn't care. I quite agree that Brexit voters have been betrayed. He's one of the people who betrayed them by telling them their problems were the fault of the EU and immigrants. He betrayed them by telling them Brexit was easy and Britain was a powerful country so can have what it wants. He doubles down - refusing to admit the complexity - and now also blames institutions like the civil service or his famous undefined "establishment" and "elite". Of course, some of the media and even the PM have sang along to his tune, also made the promises and refused to be straight about the challenges. No wonder people are livid when they were made promise after promise of how we can enable this quick, clean, profitable and patriotic Brexit.



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Sam shark, you don’t half give a huge amount of power to one man.


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Rugby2023 wrote:
I like haggis wrote:
A politician was literally shot and killed for being a remainder.

When you talk about political violence maybe remember that?

Oh, and she was killed by someone shouting the guff Farage and his like are screaming about right now.

And a National Force member was jailed the other day for plotting to kill an MP.

Milkshakes aren't the problem.

It's precisely the point. A Tory councillor was petrol-bombed the other night too.

Enough already, none of it okay, and no one should be encouraging any form of physical attack against politicians.


That petrol bombing is mental - who petrol bombs someone over planning permission :shock: and why isn't it bigger news? That's more pressing than Farage having milkshake chucked on him.

Milkshakes are today's eggings, it's not good but spare everyone the pearl clutching that it's the start of a breakdown of society. Literally nobody would've claimed that when politicians used to get egged.


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I like haggis wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
I like haggis wrote:
A politician was literally shot and killed for being a remainder.

When you talk about political violence maybe remember that?

Oh, and she was killed by someone shouting the guff Farage and his like are screaming about right now.

And a National Force member was jailed the other day for plotting to kill an MP.

Milkshakes aren't the problem.

It's precisely the point. A Tory councillor was petrol-bombed the other night too.

Enough already, none of it okay, and no one should be encouraging any form of physical attack against politicians.


That petrol bombing is mental - who petrol bombs someone over planning permission :shock: and why isn't it bigger news? That's more pressing than Farage having milkshake chucked on him.

Milkshakes are today's eggings, it's not good but spare everyone the pearl clutching that it's the start of a breakdown of society. Literally nobody would've claimed that when politicians used to get egged.



You agree that force stoping or disrupting a democratic process is nothing to worry about. That’s frightening


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I was going to point out the difference between petrol bombs and milkshakes to Bimbo, but it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.


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Rinkals wrote:
I was going to point out the difference between petrol bombs and milkshakes to Bimbo, but it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.



You agree with force disrupting a political process. It isn’t a surprise.


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Does anyone actually think that Brexit could speed up the potential disintegration of the UK ..... ?

Fingers crossed.


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Does anyone actually think that Brexit could speed up the potential disintegration of the UK ..... ?

Fingers crossed.


Genuine question, how does Wales economically support itself in such a scenario?

Brexit is a total mess but I am not such an ideologue that I would wish the disintegration of the nation state over it. Seems petty unless you're a massive PC fan, in which case, I pity you.


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Eggs and milkshakes don't stop anything though. Farage was back on the streets yesterday. And I didn't agree with it, I just pointed out politicians have had eggs thrown at them for years and it wasn't met with bedwetting telegraph opinion pieces about the end of democracy.


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Caley_Red wrote:
c69 wrote:
moosehead wrote:
Does anyone actually think that Brexit could speed up the potential disintegration of the UK ..... ?

Fingers crossed.


Genuine question, how does Wales economically support itself in such a scenario?

Brexit is a total mess but I am not such an ideologue that I would wish the disintegration of the nation state over it. Seems petty unless you're a massive PC fan, in which case, I pity you.



It doesn’t because it can’t. Stupid nationalist bigots don’t actually care about the people who live in a country. Partially that’s because the left wing mentalists don’t understand basic economics, these people are often left wing/socialist nationalists who work in the public sector and are trying to pretend to themselves they’re “special”.


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Eggs and milkshakes don't stop anything though. Farage was back on the streets yesterday. And I didn't agree with it, I just pointed out politicians have had eggs thrown at them for years and it wasn't met with bedwetting telegraph opinion pieces about the end of democracy.



Sorry? The reaction to Soubry being shouted at was hysterically bought to the HoC and the left wing and broadcast media had a wankfest over it.


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SamShark wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
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It is quite rich for someone who goes round the country telling everyone they have been betrayed (tearing apart the fabric of society, telling them that civil servants, for instance, are against them) to feign horror when this febrile environment he's created leads to a few people wielding cups of milk.

I really wish he'd just fudge off somewhere - anywhere - not here.

The "cups of milk" isn't really the issue, it's politicians being attacked. Today it might be milk, but there have been those on social media advocating throwing acid. If we're tolerating or encouraging this, how long before some unhinged loon takes it upon themselves to splash a "racist" with acid believing it's justified? Then comes the retribution from the other side. It's a slippery slope I'd really rather our politics didn't go down. We don't have to agree with political views but we can at least agree that people have the freedom to hold them without members of the public physically throwing substances at them. There are legitimate forms of protest, this isn't one of them.

Agree 100% - nobody should be attacked with any substance as it potentially opens the door for more serious attacks - it's just funny that an absolute c*nt who has created an atmosphere like this then feigns fear and outrage.

Farage isn't actually "telling" anyone anything, he is lending his voice to what they already believe. If he stopped, they'd rally around someone else who held similar views to theirs. We can't silence people Commie-style because we dont like their message, because ultimately their message comes from how the people feel and clearly the 17.4 million Britons who voted for Brexit are feeling pretty betrayed that we're still in the EU.

Farage takes it to a new level - a level he knows there's no way back from, but he doesn't care. I quite agree that Brexit voters have been betrayed. He's one of the people who betrayed them by telling them their problems were the fault of the EU and immigrants. He betrayed them by telling them Brexit was easy and Britain was a powerful country so can have what it wants. He doubles down - refusing to admit the complexity - and now also blames institutions like the civil service or his famous undefined "establishment" and "elite". Of course, some of the media and even the PM have sang along to his tune, also made the promises and refused to be straight about the challenges. No wonder people are livid when they were made promise after promise of how we can enable this quick, clean, profitable and patriotic Brexit.



The last part is typical of the stuff you hear from the like of Le pen in continental Europe.

And Farage is classified as such in some papers.


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I like haggis wrote:
Eggs and milkshakes don't stop anything though. Farage was back on the streets yesterday. And I didn't agree with it, I just pointed out politicians have had eggs thrown at them for years and it wasn't met with bedwetting telegraph opinion pieces about the end of democracy.


Hell, Prescott whacked some bloke for egging him and that was at least a decade ago.


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