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I see the Brexiteers are getting very worked up on here, perhaps its time to chill out and relax a bit. Maybe have a holiday

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

I apologise as I didn't know there was a personal connection.
I don't have much of an opinion of him but my knowledge of him comes second hand from informed senior Irish government sources when he was Brexit secretary.He is not to be trusted and is not particularly truthful. These reports emanate mainly , from a visit to Dublin earlier in the year and are well documented in the Irish media.

sewa wrote:I see the Brexiteers are getting very worked up on here, perhaps its time to chill out and relax a bit. Maybe have a holiday

Like Benidorm?

Macron calling for a United Ireland to solve Brexit's issues.

iarmhiman wrote:

sewa wrote:I see the Brexiteers are getting very worked up on here, perhaps its time to chill out and relax a bit. Maybe have a holiday

Like Benidorm?

Wherever they can afford now that their currency has collapsed

Zico wrote:I think Santa believes that culture is skin colour. Stupid plum.

It was Jabba who brought up "brown people"

EverReady wrote:

The Man Without Fear wrote:

msp. wrote:There is one advantage of leaving the EU..

This thread will die..

Indeed, we can then get the postmortem thread going.

Considering the Brexshits have now set a date of 2050 as being when it will all work out that thread will bring out the best in bimbo

'just you wait'
'it will be magnificent'
'spam is actually very nutritional'
'Scotland being gone will make all the difference'
'I actually never said 2050 if you look back through 30 years of posts'

Anything that isn’t 2 million job losses an 8% drop in GDP makes me the sensible one

bimboman wrote:

EverReady wrote:

The Man Without Fear wrote:

msp. wrote:There is one advantage of leaving the EU..

This thread will die..

Indeed, we can then get the postmortem thread going.

Considering the Brexshits have now set a date of 2050 as being when it will all work out that thread will bring out the best in bimbo

'just you wait'
'it will be magnificent'
'spam is actually very nutritional'
'Scotland being gone will make all the difference'
'I actually never said 2050 if you look back through 30 years of posts'

Anything that isn’t 2 million job losses an 8% drop in GDP makes me the sensible one

Fascinating.

TranceNRG wrote:

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

What has the obnoxious, know it all, bitter, old plum achieved?
Anyone who thinks Raab is not intelligent is an idiot. You don't get to go to Oxford to study law and complete a masters at Cambridge by being thick. He's far more intelligent and achieved far more than anyone in the EU fan club.

The UK is lucky to have you.

The Sun God wrote:

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

I apologise as I didn't know there was a personal connection.
I don't have much of an opinion of him but my knowledge of him comes second hand from informed senior Irish government sources when he was Brexit secretary.He is not to be trusted and is not particularly truthful. These reports emanate mainly , from a visit to Dublin earlier in the year and are well documented in the Irish media.

.........as are most government ministers. Particularly on this subject!

The Sun God wrote:

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

I apologise as I didn't know there was a personal connection.
I don't have much of an opinion of him but my knowledge of him comes second hand from informed senior Irish government sources when he was Brexit secretary.He is not to be trusted and is not particularly truthful. These reports emanate mainly , from a visit to Dublin earlier in the year and are well documented in the Irish media.

No problem at all, this is precisely why I thought I should clear it up.

I'd never vote for the cvnt.

EverReady wrote:
Considering the Brexshits have now set a date of 2050 as being when it will all work out that thread will bring out the best in bimbo

'just you wait'
'it will be magnificent'
'spam is actually very nutritional'
'Scotland being gone will make all the difference'
'I actually never said 2050 if you look back through 30 years of posts'

EverReady wrote:

The Man Without Fear wrote:

msp. wrote:There is one advantage of leaving the EU..

This thread will die..

Indeed, we can then get the postmortem thread going.

Considering the Brexshits have now set a date of 2050 as being when it will all work out that thread will bring out the best in bimbo

'just you wait'
'it will be magnificent'
'spam is actually very nutritional'
'Scotland being gone will make all the difference'
'I actually never said 2050 if you look back through 30 years of posts'

we will be asking to join again by 2050.. (well probabaly "England" will)..

msp. wrote:

EverReady wrote:

The Man Without Fear wrote:

msp. wrote:There is one advantage of leaving the EU..

This thread will die..

Indeed, we can then get the postmortem thread going.

Considering the Brexshits have now set a date of 2050 as being when it will all work out that thread will bring out the best in bimbo

'just you wait'
'it will be magnificent'
'spam is actually very nutritional'
'Scotland being gone will make all the difference'
'I actually never said 2050 if you look back through 30 years of posts'

we will be asking to join again by 2050.. (well probabaly "England" will)..

JRM will probably be Viceroy of India by then, as free from the shackles of the meddling EU, we slowly regain our lost lands.

It's very hard to go back on decisions - many controversial policies are quietly adopted by new Governments.

But I'd like to see us re join the EU even if we accept a worse deal than we currently have, which is obviously highly likely.

Lets hope I'm wrong - if we have to do Brexit I'd rather it works to be honest - but as I think it will fail, I think vocal support for being outside the EU will fade away.

Once Brexit is done and can't be easily reversed I think a lot of truth may come out too - conveniently buried for now.

And it will be clearer which of our patriotic heroes was in it for themselves.

But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

SamShark wrote:But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Jesus wept.

“Live in a BREXITY way”

bimboman wrote:“Live in a BREXITY way”

Remarkable.

I knew that would rattle the usual cages.

Surely one of the problems is that more of the population want to stay in the EU currently and that percentage will grow regardless?

bimboman wrote:“Live in a BREXITY way”

Smirks and nods head

Gospel wrote:

SamShark wrote:But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Jesus wept.

That's how they feel too.

They look at people who - with a straight face - are telling them to just believe. Ignore what they see around them, ignore information, ignore data, just believe.

And if they can't do that, then "get over it".

I appreciate that some Brexitists expect the EU 27 give up the SM's borders so that the UK can take back control of such of its borders as it chooses but why can't there be a referendum in NI on NI staying in the SM - why is it for Boris and the DUP to decide that question?

sorCrer wrote:Surely one of the problems is that more of the population want to stay in the EU currently and that percentage will grow regardless?

Well, yes.

But 2016, betrayal and all that.

Sadly when Brexit supporting politicians are out and about "everyone they meet just wants to get on with it and deliver Brexit"

SamShark wrote:

Gospel wrote:

SamShark wrote:But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Jesus wept.

That's how they feel too.

They look at people who - with a straight face - are telling them to just believe. Ignore what they see around them, ignore information, ignore data, just believe.

And if they can't do that, then "get over it".

And when the economy doesn’t collapse etc ?

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:

Gospel wrote:

SamShark wrote:But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Jesus wept.

That's how they feel too.

They look at people who - with a straight face - are telling them to just believe. Ignore what they see around them, ignore information, ignore data, just believe.

And if they can't do that, then "get over it".

And when the economy doesn’t collapse etc ?

And when the NHS isn't pumped with 365m. / week?

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:

Gospel wrote:

SamShark wrote:But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Jesus wept.

That's how they feel too.

They look at people who - with a straight face - are telling them to just believe. Ignore what they see around them, ignore information, ignore data, just believe.

And if they can't do that, then "get over it".

And when the economy doesn’t collapse etc ?

What does "collapse" mean? Are you going down the "if the sky doesn't fall in Brexit was a success" route again.

Young people will likely lose all manner of opportunities due to Brexit not just financial, but any economic damage will no doubt hit their chances harder than yours.

If all you've got is "unless there's an economic collapse Brexit is a success" then GTFO.

And when the NHS isn't pumped with 365m. / week?

There’s already 390 a week more by 2021.

What an uncultured pig! Great representation of the Brexiteers. You just need Farage with his unbrushed teeth.

SamShark wrote:I knew that would rattle the usual cages.

So you were just trolling then . Well done.

The Optimist wrote:

What an uncultured pig! Great representation of the Brexiteers. You just need Farage with his unbrushed teeth.

What does "collapse" mean? Are you going down the "if the sky doesn't fall in Brexit was a success" route again.

Young people will likely lose all manner of opportunities due to Brexit not just financial, but any economic damage will no doubt hit their chances harder than yours.

If all you've got is "unless there's an economic collapse Brexit is a success" then GTFO.

It’s not a route, you’ve been spreading and accepting scare stories for 2 years, and in fact trying to use them stories as a reason to cancel democracy.

You’re now left moaning about imaginary opportunities that will be missed.

The Optimist wrote:

What an uncultured pig! Great representation of the Brexiteers. You just need Farage with his unbrushed teeth.

You've been triggered son. Mahoney posted a rather informative anecdote that explains the image you posted.

bimboman wrote:

What does "collapse" mean? Are you going down the "if the sky doesn't fall in Brexit was a success" route again.

Young people will likely lose all manner of opportunities due to Brexit not just financial, but any economic damage will no doubt hit their chances harder than yours.

If all you've got is "unless there's an economic collapse Brexit is a success" then GTFO.

It’s not a route, you’ve been spreading and accepting scare stories for 2 years, and in fact trying to use them stories as a reason to cancel democracy.

You’re now left moaning about imaginary opportunities that will be missed.

I hope I haven't scared you Bimbo. As much as I'd like to spread Brexit fear, I think only about 20 people read this thread and nobody has yet changed their mind on anything.

bimboman wrote:

What does "collapse" mean? Are you going down the "if the sky doesn't fall in Brexit was a success" route again.

Young people will likely lose all manner of opportunities due to Brexit not just financial, but any economic damage will no doubt hit their chances harder than yours.

If all you've got is "unless there's an economic collapse Brexit is a success" then GTFO.

It’s not a route, you’ve been spreading and accepting scare stories for 2 years, and in fact trying to use them stories as a reason to cancel democracy.

You’re now left moaning about imaginary opportunities that will be missed.

the scare stories are coming true though.

what was project fear a year ago is now reality.

we are making life difficult for ourselves and there is absolutely no benefit to it.

SamShark wrote:It's very hard to go back on decisions - many controversial policies are quietly adopted by new Governments.

But I'd like to see us re join the EU even if we accept a worse deal than we currently have, which is obviously highly likely.

Lets hope I'm wrong - if we have to do Brexit I'd rather it works to be honest - but as I think it will fail, I think vocal support for being outside the EU will fade away.

Once Brexit is done and can't be easily reversed I think a lot of truth may come out too - conveniently buried for now.

And it will be clearer which of our patriotic heroes was in it for themselves.

But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Rejoin? Rejoin what? Are you really such an ideologue that you already want to rejoin an organisation that you have no idea what will look like in the future?

SamShark wrote:

bimboman wrote:

What does "collapse" mean? Are you going down the "if the sky doesn't fall in Brexit was a success" route again.

Young people will likely lose all manner of opportunities due to Brexit not just financial, but any economic damage will no doubt hit their chances harder than yours.

If all you've got is "unless there's an economic collapse Brexit is a success" then GTFO.

It’s not a route, you’ve been spreading and accepting scare stories for 2 years, and in fact trying to use them stories as a reason to cancel democracy.

You’re now left moaning about imaginary opportunities that will be missed.

I hope I haven't scared you Bimbo. As much as I'd like to spread Brexit fear, I think only about 20 people read this thread and nobody has yet changed their mind on anything.

No, I’m scared of lots of things Brexit doesn’t register . Is it all about to be a great big “whoosh” from you then?

Mick Mannock wrote:

SamShark wrote:It's very hard to go back on decisions - many controversial policies are quietly adopted by new Governments.

But I'd like to see us re join the EU even if we accept a worse deal than we currently have, which is obviously highly likely.

Lets hope I'm wrong - if we have to do Brexit I'd rather it works to be honest - but as I think it will fail, I think vocal support for being outside the EU will fade away.

Once Brexit is done and can't be easily reversed I think a lot of truth may come out too - conveniently buried for now.

And it will be clearer which of our patriotic heroes was in it for themselves.

But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Rejoin? Rejoin what? Are you really such an ideologue that you already want to rejoin an organisation that you have no idea what will look like in the future?

Rejoin the EU Mick - because it's beneficial to our country overall, as recognised by all non-ideologues.

shereblue wrote:I appreciate that some Brexitists expect the EU 27 give up the SM's borders so that the UK can take back control of such of its borders as it chooses but why can't there be a referendum in NI on NI staying in the SM - why is it for Boris and the DUP to decide that question?

Not that the Uk government can be trusted to keep promises made during referendums. During the Scottish referendum for independence, the UK government promised Scotland that they would not look to leave the EU if Scotland stays part of the UK. Scotland was quite adamant at the time that they wanted to stay part of the EU. So much for keeping promises. So they will most likely screw over NI as well and not lose a wink of sleep as a result.

SamShark wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

SamShark wrote:It's very hard to go back on decisions - many controversial policies are quietly adopted by new Governments.

But I'd like to see us re join the EU even if we accept a worse deal than we currently have, which is obviously highly likely.

Lets hope I'm wrong - if we have to do Brexit I'd rather it works to be honest - but as I think it will fail, I think vocal support for being outside the EU will fade away.

Once Brexit is done and can't be easily reversed I think a lot of truth may come out too - conveniently buried for now.

And it will be clearer which of our patriotic heroes was in it for themselves.

But most of all, so few younger people want Brexit, or want to live in a Brexity way. They are not into nationalism and pretend sovereignty - they look outwards, want to be EU citizens and have no interest in pretending Brexit is great to save face as it's just another shit sandwich served up by their elders.

Rejoin? Rejoin what? Are you really such an ideologue that you already want to rejoin an organisation that you have no idea what will look like in the future?

Rejoin the EU Mick - because it's beneficial to our country overall, as recognised by all non-ideologues.

So you want to rejoin in the future no matter what the EU looks like? Just...well...because