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camroc1 wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

camroc1 wrote:So, according to the ST, Boris' latest wheeze is to draft hundreds of Scottish and English police into the Irish border areas come Brexit. You know, as some sort of Special or Auxilliary Constabulary.

It would be funny, if it wasn't so serious.

I can just imagine the reaction of locals being asked by some Auxie in a Lahndahn accent why they are crossing the border and who they are visiting in Eire.

You must be a very backward, parochial people

You are very ignorant of your own history.

backrow wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

camroc1 wrote:So, according to the ST, Boris' latest wheeze is to draft hundreds of Scottish and English police into the Irish border areas come Brexit. You know, as some sort of Special or Auxilliary Constabulary.

It would be funny, if it wasn't so serious.

I can just imagine the reaction of locals being asked by some Auxie in a Lahndahn accent why they are crossing the border and who they are visiting in Eire.

You must be a very backward, parochial people

You are very ignorant of your own history.

Perhaps they will only hire black or tanned staff ?

Mullet 2 wrote:

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

He's also an ignorant cúnt and cheerleader for one of the most idiotic decisions a country has ever made and a dangerous liar.

But it's nice you lads played soggy biscuit

bimboman wrote:Straight over his little parochial head.

c69 wrote:

Mullet 2 wrote:

slick wrote:

IIRC, Slick is a drinking buddy of Raab's which makes it understandable that he's a little touchy about Raab being slagged off on here.

Just to clear this up for any future conversations. He's a very old mate who I've known since we were 15. Our mums are close and my dad helped him through some rough times when we were younger.

It annoys me when folk throw uninformed and ignorent comments about him. He has a brilliant intellect and is a very rounded and loyal individual in his private life. Throwaway comments by people who will never achieve what he has get on my nerves as do intelligent and high achieving people like TSG acting like a teenage twitter mob when his name comes up.

I also happen to think he is a pretty average politician and a poor communicator who is doing untold damage to our country. I certainly don't get touchy with folk slagging him about that, and I'm quite happy to do it myself.

He's also an ignorant cúnt and cheerleader for one of the most idiotic decisions a country has ever made and a dangerous liar.

But it's nice you lads played soggy biscuit

Slick that has to be one of the most cringeworthy posts I jave ever read on this forum. If this man is such an itellect then how the feck did he not realise the importance of Dover and Calais? That example alone was one of the most ignorant comments from a government minister that therw has ever been. He should be nowherw government with such a poor grasp of the UK's trade and borders.
He is a fool.

bimboman wrote:Straight over his little parochial head.

camroc1 wrote:

backrow wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Mick Mannock wrote:

camroc1 wrote:So, according to the ST, Boris' latest wheeze is to draft hundreds of Scottish and English police into the Irish border areas come Brexit. You know, as some sort of Special or Auxilliary Constabulary.

It would be funny, if it wasn't so serious.

I can just imagine the reaction of locals being asked by some Auxie in a Lahndahn accent why they are crossing the border and who they are visiting in Eire.

You must be a very backward, parochial people

You are very ignorant of your own history.

Perhaps they will only hire black or tanned staff ?

And you even more so.

The gratuitous racism was noted.

MungoMan wrote:

bimboman wrote:Straight over his little parochial head.

Since Cammy is ususally happen to dredge up Sins of the Crown, I'm assuming he is pointedly ignoring your obvious reference

camroc1 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:

bimboman wrote:Straight over his little parochial head.

Since Cammy is ususally happen to dredge up Sins of the Crown, I'm assuming he is pointedly ignoring your obvious reference

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bimboman wrote:

Sadly I’m not an odious c unt .

Leffe wrote:

bimboman wrote:

Sadly I’m not an odious c unt .

Gospel wrote:

shereblue wrote:

Gospel wrote:

shereblue wrote:It is healthy that the likes of Gospel argue about whether the "base" estimate (not the "worst-case" lie ) allows for mitigating measures, what those measures would be and what the later cost of any such measures might be.

I really do wish an informed democracy for the UK. Where public debate can be informed by taxpayer-funded research. Rather than by lies, half truths and exhortations to "believe". Our very good, democracy-loving Brexiteer friends deserve no less.

The Government are making up for lost ground with regards to no-deal arrangements - thanks largely due to Hammond being shown the door. I don't really care about the politics of the leak.

My point goes much deeper than what you call the "politics of the leak". I believe that democracy flourishes when information is not suppressed and when the public is sufficiently respected to enable debate to be based on shared information rather than mere assertion supported by soviet-style secrecy.

When you express an opinion about the mitigation of base-level "no deal" predictions. I would like to think that you (and all my very good Brexiteer friends) can be confident that your opinions have not been manipulated as a result of suppressed information.

Mere vote counting in Russia or Zim has rarely impressed me.

You don't make deeper points. You just post sanctimonious drivel.

backrow wrote:Strong stuff from the Don today:
U.K. to become 51st state
Population increase on par with its largest states
Semi willing to use U.K. as the springboard into smashing Eu

Perhaps D-Trump will go easy on the U.K. as he knows he had just taken 1/8 of the Eu’s spending power if he plays fair ?

sorCrer wrote:I just hope the wider British public aren't sucked into this complete piffle about not paying the 39 billion means more money for Brexit.

sorCrer wrote:I just hope the wider British public aren't sucked into this complete piffle about not paying the 39 billion means more money for Brexit.

SamShark wrote:I expect "everyone knew that voting to leave would mean refusing to honour financial commitments regardless of the wider cost" or something like that.

bimboman wrote:

sorCrer wrote:I just hope the wider British public aren't sucked into this complete piffle about not paying the 39 billion means more money for Brexit.

It will mean less money?

SamShark wrote:You think we won't pay in other ways - financial and reputational - if we leave in the most fractious possible way?

No of course you don't - as we are both simultaniously f**king hard nuts who don't care (but are also bullied in the EU)

sorCrer wrote:

bimboman wrote:

sorCrer wrote:I just hope the wider British public aren't sucked into this complete piffle about not paying the 39 billion means more money for Brexit.

It will mean less money?

Using fictitious money as the basis of a selling point is one of the oldest tricks in the financial con-mans books. Apologies but I can't recall if you were in financing or warehousing but surely you would know this.

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:You think we won't pay in other ways - financial and reputational - if we leave in the most fractious possible way?

No of course you don't - as we are both simultaniously f**king hard nuts who don't care (but are also bullied in the EU)

You’re conflating lots of things rather than answer “should we pay for a transition that doesn’t exist”?

SamShark wrote:

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:You think we won't pay in other ways - financial and reputational - if we leave in the most fractious possible way?

No of course you don't - as we are both simultaniously f**king hard nuts who don't care (but are also bullied in the EU)

You’re conflating lots of things rather than answer “should we pay for a transition that doesn’t exist”?

No, you're taking an incredibly simplistic approach to a nuanced situation as usual.

I'm afraid you have to conflate things sometimes Bimbo*

*(Apart from Brexit and World War 2 - never conflate that)

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:

bimboman wrote:

SamShark wrote:You think we won't pay in other ways - financial and reputational - if we leave in the most fractious possible way?

No of course you don't - as we are both simultaniously f**king hard nuts who don't care (but are also bullied in the EU)

You’re conflating lots of things rather than answer “should we pay for a transition that doesn’t exist”?

No, you're taking an incredibly simplistic approach to a nuanced situation as usual.

I'm afraid you have to conflate things sometimes Bimbo*

*(Apart from Brexit and World War 2 - never conflate that)

What’s the nuance regarding the transition period payments?

Santa wrote:Reputation risk for countries is not a real thing. Its only occasionally a thing for businesses.

bimboman wrote:No answer again Sam, you claimed there was nuance , what’s the nuance on paying for a non existent transition period , remember this is tax payer funds.

SamShark wrote:

Santa wrote:Reputation risk for countries is not a real thing. Its only occasionally a thing for businesses.

For countries, you "politics" could be used in the same way as "reputation".

There would likely be legal and political consequences.

Santa wrote:

SamShark wrote:

Santa wrote:Reputation risk for countries is not a real thing. Its only occasionally a thing for businesses.

For countries, you "politics" could be used in the same way as "reputation".

There would likely be legal and political consequences.

Politics and reputation aren't synonyms in any sphere of human behaviour. And governments and financial organisations tend to take a far more pragmatic view of things than relying on reputation.

backrow wrote:Strong stuff from the Don today:
U.K. to become 51st state
Population increase on par with its largest states
Semi willing to use U.K. as the springboard into smashing Eu

Perhaps D-Trump will go easy on the U.K. as he knows he had just taken 1/8 of the Eu’s spending power if he plays fair ?

PornDog wrote:In a time of political instability and economic uncertainty, it would seem the solution is to not pay your debts and thus put the fear of God into any potential lenders.

Prepare to see UK bond rates go through the roof, right when you may just (will certainly) have to rely heavily on them.

SamShark wrote:

bimboman wrote:No answer again Sam, you claimed there was nuance , what’s the nuance on paying for a non existent transition period , remember this is tax payer funds.

I've answered above Bimbo, before you posted this. Wasn't aware there was a 5 minute time-limit to reply to your posts.

There isn't any, ANY, objective observer that thinks that refusal to pay the so called "divorce bill" is a simple decision which will make Britain £39bn better off, with no other implications to be considered.

Stop insulting everyone and get a grip.