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Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

Fenman wrote:I totally agree. Winning tournaments is all about not losing. An outstanding defence can nullify a truly creative team and (like at Cardiff on Saturday) clock up points in multiples of 3. It's all about keeping the scoreboard ticking over and not leaving the opposition 22 without having an attempt at another 3 points. Possibly the most important member of the team is therefore the kicker (or kickers).

Plato'sCave wrote:

P in VG wrote:

Fenman wrote:I totally agree. Winning tournaments is all about not losing. An outstanding defence can nullify a truly creative team and (like at Cardiff on Saturday) clock up points in multiples of 3. It's all about keeping the scoreboard ticking over and not leaving the opposition 22 without having an attempt at another 3 points. Possibly the most important member of the team is therefore the kicker (or kickers).

Who were the ’truly creative team’ who played in Cardiff on Saturday?!

Fenman wrote:

P in VG wrote:

Fenman wrote:I totally agree. Winning tournaments is all about not losing. An outstanding defence can nullify a truly creative team and (like at Cardiff on Saturday) clock up points in multiples of 3. It's all about keeping the scoreboard ticking over and not leaving the opposition 22 without having an attempt at another 3 points. Possibly the most important member of the team is therefore the kicker (or kickers).

Who were the ’truly creative team’ who played in Cardiff on Saturday?!

Only the team that have made the ABs their bitches! Enter the storm in 3 2 1...

Squeeze wrote:I doubt even the All Blacks would score a try if they had the Irish halfbacks playing for them at the moment.

Clive Simms wrote:Good job Franno with the narrative that England are the main threat in the WC from the NH. Just as Gatland wants people to think. Allows us to fly under radar

iarmhiman wrote:Australia

Wales

Georgia

Fiji

Uruguay


Australia usually get it right by RWC time.

Wales will fancy winning that pool mind.

Wales did not just play on the line, they played way past the line. They were wonderfully illegal at maul time, they gave away several penalties at nearly every ruck, and for a team whose scrum was under pressure they managed to get four penalties in this area.

I can't blame Angus Gardner for his performance because it scarcely mattered that most times Ireland got something going it was a canny or slightly illegal Welsh play that stopped it.

Jeff the Bear wrote:I always love the myopia of fans railing against the cheating of opposition players, while mere months, weeks, even days ago, they'd have been lauding their own players for the exact same thing:

Wales did not just play on the line, they played way past the line. They were wonderfully illegal at maul time, they gave away several penalties at nearly every ruck, and for a team whose scrum was under pressure they managed to get four penalties in this area.

I can't blame Angus Gardner for his performance because it scarcely mattered that most times Ireland got something going it was a canny or slightly illegal Welsh play that stopped it.

Squeeze wrote:Who was the player that gave Franno the haymaker that put him on his arse?

Fenman wrote:

P in VG wrote:

Fenman wrote:I totally agree. Winning tournaments is all about not losing. An outstanding defence can nullify a truly creative team and (like at Cardiff on Saturday) clock up points in multiples of 3. It's all about keeping the scoreboard ticking over and not leaving the opposition 22 without having an attempt at another 3 points. Possibly the most important member of the team is therefore the kicker (or kickers).

Who were the ’truly creative team’ who played in Cardiff on Saturday?!

Only the team that have made the ABs their bitches! Enter the storm in 3 2 1...

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

englishgreat wrote:

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

It’s true. Even the most one eyed Celt cannot deny the fact that England have looked the most powerful, skillful and creative side in the 6N. They ran in 24 tries, the same as Wales and Ireland combined!!

Who would New Zealand most fear in a World Cup Final? A fit, powerful England, or turgid, risk averse defence oriented Wales??

englishgreat wrote:

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

It’s true. Even the most one eyed Celt cannot deny the fact that England have looked the most powerful, skillful and creative side in the 6N. They ran in 24 tries, the same as Wales and Ireland combined!!

Who would New Zealand most fear in a World Cup Final? A fit, powerful England, or turgid, risk averse defence oriented Wales??

obelixtim wrote:

englishgreat wrote:

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

It’s true. Even the most one eyed Celt cannot deny the fact that England have looked the most powerful, skillful and creative side in the 6N. They ran in 24 tries, the same as Wales and Ireland combined!!

Who would New Zealand most fear in a World Cup Final? A fit, powerful England, or turgid, risk averse defence oriented Wales??

ABs wouldn't fear either of those two sides, especially away from home. If there is one 6N team they might fear, it would prolly be France.

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obelixtim wrote:

englishgreat wrote:

MrDominator wrote:Controversial:

Our friends in the southern hemisphere will look on in a state of puzzlement. How can you win something without actually creating anything? I don't think the Welsh will care. The English have been by far the most creative and imaginative side in the competition and it is they who will go to the World Cup in the autumn as the northern hemisphere's standard bearers.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 21517.html

It’s true. Even the most one eyed Celt cannot deny the fact that England have looked the most powerful, skillful and creative side in the 6N. They ran in 24 tries, the same as Wales and Ireland combined!!

Who would New Zealand most fear in a World Cup Final? A fit, powerful England, or turgid, risk averse defence oriented Wales??

ABs wouldn't fear either of those two sides, especially away from home. If there is one 6N team they might fear, it would prolly be France.

Scotland are the new France.
France are the new Italy.