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Author:  LeinsterLion [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ​Tanielu Tele'a gets 8 weeks for taking player out

Horrific, isn't it? Sadly was inevitable that something like this would happen, and it has. In what would have been in a very high profile way which may have finally been a push for change but for the fact the footage won't be and hasn't been widely seen.

Author:  Zakar [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ​Tanielu Tele'a gets 8 weeks for taking player out

According to Ben Ryan, they're trialing laws to prevent the flying bodies phenomenon at the moment. Not sure they need any laws other than nobody with shoulders below hips in the ruck. Just need to enforce.

Author:  guy smiley [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ​Tanielu Tele'a gets 8 weeks for taking player out

Zakar wrote:
According to Ben Ryan, they're trialing laws to prevent the flying bodies phenomenon at the moment. Not sure they need any laws other than nobody with shoulders below hips in the ruck. Just need to enforce.


This is what I was driving at on the previous page (and I think HK was on the money when he suggested WR seem to only have the capacity to deal with one issue at a time)...

https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=15

Quote:
Joining a ruck
An arriving player must be on their feet and join from behind their offside line.
A player may join alongside but not in front of the hindmost player.
A player must bind onto a team-mate or an opposition player. The bind must precede or be simultaneous with contact with any other part of the body.

Players must join the ruck or retire behind their offside line immediately.
Players who have previously been part of the ruck may rejoin the ruck, provided they do so from an onside position.


What new Laws do we need?

Author:  Zakar [ Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ​Tanielu Tele'a gets 8 weeks for taking player out

I don't disagree. You could widen the gate slightly, but if you enforce those rules, this wouldn't be an issue.

Author:  eldanielfire [ Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: ​Tanielu Tele'a gets 8 weeks for taking player out

guy smiley wrote:
Zakar wrote:
According to Ben Ryan, they're trialing laws to prevent the flying bodies phenomenon at the moment. Not sure they need any laws other than nobody with shoulders below hips in the ruck. Just need to enforce.


This is what I was driving at on the previous page (and I think HK was on the money when he suggested WR seem to only have the capacity to deal with one issue at a time)...

https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=15

Quote:
Joining a ruck
An arriving player must be on their feet and join from behind their offside line.
A player may join alongside but not in front of the hindmost player.
A player must bind onto a team-mate or an opposition player. The bind must precede or be simultaneous with contact with any other part of the body.

Players must join the ruck or retire behind their offside line immediately.
Players who have previously been part of the ruck may rejoin the ruck, provided they do so from an onside position.


What new Laws do we need?



None. It's been an issue for a long time now. You'll find the laws are much more enforced at amateur level. Which is weird that professional refs are clearly not enforcing it. When I did my last referee course it's even discussed don't ref the rucks like on TV, especially when referring children who see it on TV. So it's known in referee circles that the rules are not enforced and nto enforecd seemingly by intent.

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