Are you suggesting this is a conspiracy pushed forward by Big Farmer?fatcat wrote:Damaging the grass is a complete irrelevance but there's no way the grass grew back to that level in 3 days!
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Very goodThomas wrote:Are you suggesting this is a conspiracy pushed forward by Big Farmer?fatcat wrote:Damaging the grass is a complete irrelevance but there's no way the grass grew back to that level in 3 days!
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We’re through the lacking grass here, people.
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I’m feeling lazy so just have to imagine a languid Boom TISHWomack wrote:We’re through the lacking grass here, people.
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A shame though as with a fried egg, chips and pineapple it is Gert lush6.Jones wrote:That's because we're manly men.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:It is tragic you can't get gammon in Oz6.Jones wrote: The tragedy of the gammons.
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That is, by a considerable margin, the worst post on this entire threadPat the Ex Mat wrote:A shame though as with a fried egg, chips and pineapple it is Gert lush6.Jones wrote:That's because we're manly men.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:It is tragic you can't get gammon in Oz6.Jones wrote: The tragedy of the gammons.
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He's gone native, a tragedyhappyhooker wrote:That is, by a considerable margin, the worst post on this entire threadPat the Ex Mat wrote:A shame though as with a fried egg, chips and pineapple it is Gert lush6.Jones wrote:That's because we're manly men.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:It is tragic you can't get gammon in Oz6.Jones wrote: The tragedy of the gammons.
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You really f**king hate pineapplehappyhooker wrote:That is, by a considerable margin, the worst post on this entire threadPat the Ex Mat wrote:A shame though as with a fried egg, chips and pineapple it is Gert lush6.Jones wrote:That's because we're manly men.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:It is tragic you can't get gammon in Oz6.Jones wrote: The tragedy of the gammons.

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I'm not sure why the UK is worries about the coronavirus at all. They only account for what, 0.5% of the global population? Every one there could die and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Only China should worry because so many of them could be infected.
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This is where the absence of a snigger emoticon gets a bit annoyingZakar wrote:I'm not sure why the UK is worries about the coronavirus at all. They only account for what, 0.5% of the global population? Every one there could die and it wouldn't make much of a difference. Only China should worry because so many of them could be infected.
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Your new Tim Vine material coming along nicelyThomas wrote:Are you suggesting this is a conspiracy pushed forward by Big Farmer?fatcat wrote:Damaging the grass is a complete irrelevance but there's no way the grass grew back to that level in 3 days!

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https://www.ft.com/content/b8ddb2f4-5c8 ... 40a0d65a98Johnson revives onshore wind farms after 4-year ban
Boris Johnson has given the go-ahead to onshore wind farms four years after his predecessor, David Cameron, imposed a moratorium on subsidies for land-based wind turbines.
The prime minister’s move follows lower prices of electricity produced by wind farms in recent years, making the technology significantly cheaper than other forms of low-carbon electricity such as nuclear power.
Whoda thunk?
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An you call yourself a pub fan....happyhooker wrote:That is, by a considerable margin, the worst post on this entire threadPat the Ex Mat wrote:A shame though as with a fried egg, chips and pineapple it is Gert lush6.Jones wrote:That's because we're manly men.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:It is tragic you can't get gammon in Oz6.Jones wrote: The tragedy of the gammons.
Quintessential UK pub food - the reasoning doesn't exist inOz is the Schnitty occupies that niche
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Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple

pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple
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On this we agreebackrow wrote:Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup![]()
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple

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sewa wrote:On this we agreebackrow wrote:Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup![]()
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple

why the flaming feck did i type that before i've had lunch !?!? i'm STARVING now !
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It's well established that you have the tastebuds of a dung beetlebackrow wrote:Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup![]()
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple
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Fixed it for you.happyhooker wrote:It's well established that you have the taste of a dung beetlebackrow wrote:Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup![]()
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple
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happyhooker wrote:It's well established that you have the tastebuds of a dung beetlebackrow wrote:Gammon, Soft Eggs, Pineapple, Chips, peas, Onion rings, tomato, gallon of Ketchup![]()
pineapple haterz can GTFO, there is almost no food that is made worse by adding pineapple

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I've long found it weird the left attacked Johnson on Environmental stuff. He was big on promoting cycling and launched the public cycles as mayor and has always been supportive of achieving zero net emissions. Plus his wife to be is a huge environmental nut who has worked for multiple environmental bodies. He's not going to do it in any business harming ways though.6.Jones wrote:https://www.ft.com/content/b8ddb2f4-5c8 ... 40a0d65a98Johnson revives onshore wind farms after 4-year ban
Boris Johnson has given the go-ahead to onshore wind farms four years after his predecessor, David Cameron, imposed a moratorium on subsidies for land-based wind turbines.
The prime minister’s move follows lower prices of electricity produced by wind farms in recent years, making the technology significantly cheaper than other forms of low-carbon electricity such as nuclear power.
Whoda thunk?
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Mixed bag really.eldanielfire wrote:I've long found it weird the left attacked Johnson on Environmental stuff. He was big on promoting cycling and launched the public cycles as mayor and has always been supportive of achieving zero net emissions. Plus his wife to be is a huge environmental nut who has worked for multiple environmental bodies. He's not going to do it in any business harming ways though.6.Jones wrote:https://www.ft.com/content/b8ddb2f4-5c8 ... 40a0d65a98Johnson revives onshore wind farms after 4-year ban
Boris Johnson has given the go-ahead to onshore wind farms four years after his predecessor, David Cameron, imposed a moratorium on subsidies for land-based wind turbines.
The prime minister’s move follows lower prices of electricity produced by wind farms in recent years, making the technology significantly cheaper than other forms of low-carbon electricity such as nuclear power.
Whoda thunk?
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On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
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It isn't. But it, and forestry and farming payments etc, do reveal the problems with land ownership in this country. Lots of land owned by not a lot of people who might have had it in the family for generations. And if you go back far enough how they originally got this land starts to get pretty murky.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
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Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
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6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
Yes seriously it requires feed in tariffs guaranteed for a huge return to the land owners. It’s much more likely to just be bad policy than any sort of conspiracy.
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85% of Europe’s entire on-shore wind capacity, is located in Northamptonshire6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
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dantedelew wrote:It isn't. But it, and forestry and farming payments etc, do reveal the problems with land ownership in this country. Lots of land owned by not a lot of people who might have had it in the family for generations. And if you go back far enough how they originally got this land starts to get pretty murky.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
Yes, but we aren’t communists.
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No.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
Yes seriously it requires feed in tariffs guaranteed for a huge return to the land owners. It’s much more likely to just be bad policy than any sort of conspiracy.
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backrow wrote:85% of Europe’s entire on-shore wind capacity, is located in Northamptonshire6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....

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6.Jones wrote:No.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
Yes seriously it requires feed in tariffs guaranteed for a huge return to the land owners. It’s much more likely to just be bad policy than any sort of conspiracy.
No, ? It really does fill the coffers. Guaranteed 8-12% returns with government guarantees.... the previous incarnation also had EIS.
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Are you familiar with the levelized cost of energy? It's measure of a power source that allows comparison of different methods of electricity generation taking in to account all of the factors, including tariffs. This has been calculated, independently of governments and vested interests. Over the decades, this calculation has been delegated to in the UK to an engineering firm called Mott MacDonald. Here's their 2016 numbers:bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:No.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:Seriously? It's the cheapest form of energy Britain currently has access to. Unless the Government, and engineering consultancies, and the utility companies, and other governments are in a conspiracy. But you're obviously taking the mickey.bimboman wrote:On shore wind is a great big ruse to re inflate the coffers of the aristocracy. I do laugh at the lefts support ....
Yes seriously it requires feed in tariffs guaranteed for a huge return to the land owners. It’s much more likely to just be bad policy than any sort of conspiracy.
No, ? It really does fill the coffers. Guaranteed 8-12% returns with government guarantees.... the previous incarnation also had EIS.
I've posted these before. I guess I'll still be posting them in a few years, when the next Mott MacDonald report comes out.
No one has ever accused that firm of bias. If you're really interested, read the report. It includes capital costs, economic life, subsidies and fuel. Every detail you could want to make an investment decision.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... pdate-.pdf
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I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous,and guaranteed for far longer than your examples.
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You can't price an asset by the actions of fraudsters. You have to at least read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous.
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6.Jones wrote:You can't price an asset by the actions of fraudsters. You have to at least read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous.
There wasn’t any fraud. It was what the guarantees paid.
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So read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:You can't price an asset by the actions of fraudsters. You have to at least read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous.
There wasn’t any fraud. It was what the guarantees paid.
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6.Jones wrote:So read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:You can't price an asset by the actions of fraudsters. You have to at least read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous.
There wasn’t any fraud. It was what the guarantees paid.
I get you can do it cheaper, it’s just that everytime we get these initiatives they start them with stupidly high guarantees, UK problem not renewables per se, though we are now a world leader in car in reductions..... (with some richer rich people).
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MAybe the problem is politicians.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:So read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:You can't price an asset by the actions of fraudsters. You have to at least read the fundamentals.bimboman wrote:I’m also familiar with a company that built investment products off the back of the last incarnation of onshore wind and it sold 8% guaranteed as an EIS after build and the landowner taking a similar cut ..... the feed in was outrageous.
There wasn’t any fraud. It was what the guarantees paid.
I get you can do it cheaper, it’s just that everytime we get these initiatives they start them with stupidly high guarantees, UK problem not renewables per se, though we are now a world leader in car in reductions..... (with some richer rich people).
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Indeed, but ours have made us world leaders in carbon reduction.
(They of course made me pay for it).

(They of course made me pay for it).
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The result of inaccurate subsidies is that someone pays more.
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6.Jones wrote:The result of inaccurate subsidies is that someone pays more.
Oh, they’ve made almost everyone’s electricity bills more expensive.