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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:31 pm
by AND-y
muffstuffa wrote:Dan Lydiate and Gethin Jenkins are both expected to return to full training this week in time to make themselves available for selection for Wales' second round RBS 6 Nations clash with Scotland at the Millennium Stadium this Sunday (Kick-off 3pm).

The Wales side to take on the Scots in Cardiff will now be named on Thursday 9th February (see above), to allow injury issues to subside and to await news from the citing hearing taking place tomorrow (Wed) involving Bradley Davies.

Dragons back row Lydiate (ankle) and Blues prop Jenkins (knee) will be integrated back into full training during the early part of this week as will Blues wing Alex Cuthbert, who is following the normal protocols following taking a bump to the head.

Cuthbert will be available for selection and it is also hoped his Blues colleague, the Wales captain Sam Warburton, will recovery sufficiently from a dead leg to be in contention, but his fitness will be continually assessed over the next few days


So Cuthbert was injured
Good news, would like to see Cuthbert start with 1/2p at 15 again.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:32 pm
by henry
Slightly relieved that Cuthbert didn't return due to a knock.

Was worried that he'd either bottled it or Edwards had jumped the gun and pulled him off harshly for a defensive lapse.

Good news on Lydiate - we'll need him. Gethin should be rested up. Let's make sure he's 100% - Gill deserves a second bash.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:37 pm
by celestialstorm3000
Cuthbert is promising. Glad that's all it was.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:39 pm
by muffstuffa
I honestly thought he was pulled off but after watching the game again it was RP that was at fault for Bests try, not AC.
Hopefully we stick with him and let him develop. He is only 21 and only played a handful of games for the blues

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:43 pm
by Jeff the Bear
muffstuffa wrote:I honestly thought he was pulled off but after watching the game again it was RP that was at fault for Bests try, not AC.
Hopefully we stick with him and let him develop. He is only 21 and only played a handful of games for the blues
Indeed. He reminds me of where North was a year ago. A bit nervous, a bit streaky, but with potential.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:59 pm
by korben_dallas
Cuthberts clearing kick was immense and he also has some very very nice hands for a winger he came in field a lot and put some great passes in.

No harm in just sticking with the same team for the championship bar injury and suspension (id guess Dan Lydiate in and Ryan to second row)

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:06 pm
by muffstuffa
c69 wrote:
muffstuffa wrote:I honestly thought he was pulled off but after watching the game again it was RP that was at fault for Bests try, not AC.
Hopefully we stick with him and let him develop. He is only 21 and only played a handful of games for the blues
Took a knock on the head, where is the link for Gethin and Dan?
http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/index.php

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:35 pm
by Jeff the Bear
I thought a few of you on this thread might appreciate this little gif I've put together:

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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 pm
by celestialstorm3000
Jeff the Bear wrote:I thought a few of you on this thread might appreciate this little gif I've put together:

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I've got theory about Jiffy Jr.

I reckon his skull cap makes him invisible to Irish defenders. That's the second game in a row against the paddies where he's just ran through the lot of them unopposed.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:44 pm
by jorwar
Jeff the Bear wrote:I thought a few of you on this thread might appreciate this little gif I've put together:

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Jiffy jnr loves scoring tries against the Irish :nod:

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:46 pm
by ThePaul
What Davies has got which is priceless at the top level is a real change of pace - his try against Ireland in the WC utilised it brilliantly, as did his second try on Sun.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:49 pm
by Jeff the Bear
ThePaul wrote:What Davies has got which is priceless at the top level is a real change of pace - his try against Ireland in the WC utilised it brilliantly, as did his second try on Sun.
I think his deceptive fatness plays a role in that...it's as if the Irish defence can't believe he's managed to accelerate as fast as he has. :lol:

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:52 pm
by P.T.
How was Davies not injured by that cheap shot by Murray?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:53 pm
by coal
Jiffy jnr running style reminds me of Micheal Johnson...really straight back, glides along...deceptively quick

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:53 pm
by Jeff the Bear
P.T. wrote:How was Davies not injured by that cheap shot by Murray?
Momentum and adrenalin I imagine. Jiffy is lucky that the ground seemed damp enough for him to be spun, as had his knee's found some purchase and gripped, then he could have at the very least have had a sever dead leg, and at worst, f**ked up his knee.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:55 pm
by Jeff the Bear
It's not all sweetness and light though. Here's BBBD living up to his nickname. It doesn't get better with repeat viewing. x(

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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:58 pm
by muffstuffa
Jeff the Bear wrote:I thought a few of you on this thread might appreciate this little gif I've put together:

Image :smug:
Good one.
Darcy at fault for that try. North gets the ball, checks, sees darcy then out paces him on the outside. When a 19 year old kid does that it is time to retire. Anyone know JD's sprint time over 40m?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:58 pm
by ThePaul
Can you make one just of the North hit on McFadden Jeff?? (Paul from BR here btw :D)

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:59 pm
by celestialstorm3000
Jeff the Bear wrote:It's not all sweetness and light though. Here's BBBD living up to his nickname. It doesn't get better with repeat viewing. x(

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Why didn't Best break his fall? I blame Best!

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:00 pm
by P.T.
Jeff the Bear wrote:It's not all sweetness and light though. Here's BBBD living up to his nickname. It doesn't get better with repeat viewing. x(

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The Welsh Tony Copsey...

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:00 pm
by Jeff the Bear
ThePaul wrote:Can you make one just of the North hit on McFadden Jeff?? (Paul from BR here btw :D)
I'll give it a go. Give me a second.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:02 pm
by coal
Who was it tried to clear out the Bomb the same as Bakkies did.......Bradley was defending his team mate. I think his brain stopped working half way through and he couldn't stop himself :?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:05 pm
by coal
P.T. wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:It's not all sweetness and light though. Here's BBBD living up to his nickname. It doesn't get better with repeat viewing. x(

Image
The Welsh Tony Copsey...
It looks like Best is giving him a hand........."yeah mate ...back up a bit...just a sec..here you go"

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:09 pm
by P.T.
coal wrote:
P.T. wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:It's not all sweetness and light though. Here's BBBD living up to his nickname. It doesn't get better with repeat viewing. x(

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The Welsh Tony Copsey...
It looks like Best is giving him a hand........."yeah mate ...back up a bit...just a sec..here you go"
Two British lads, just havin' the craic.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:18 pm
by Jeff the Bear
Jeff the Bear wrote:
ThePaul wrote:Can you make one just of the North hit on McFadden Jeff?? (Paul from BR here btw :D)
I'll give it a go. Give me a second.
Here you go :D

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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:44 pm
by ThePaul
Jeff that is outstanding work my friend!

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:01 pm
by easyray
Jeff the Bear wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
ThePaul wrote:Can you make one just of the North hit on McFadden Jeff?? (Paul from BR here btw :D)
I'll give it a go. Give me a second.
Here you go :D

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He's only a prop, nothing to worry about there :lol: :lol:

:blush: :blush: :blush: Just realised what i wrote there.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:06 pm
by redrebel
easyray wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
ThePaul wrote:Can you make one just of the North hit on McFadden Jeff?? (Paul from BR here btw :D)
I'll give it a go. Give me a second.
Here you go :D

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He's only a prop, nothing to worry about there :lol: :lol:

:blush: :blush: :blush: Just realised what i wrote there.
Ahhhhhhhh the O Gara school of tackleing... :uhoh:

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:28 pm
by roughneck
Jeff the Bear wrote:I thought a few of you on this thread might appreciate this little gif I've put together:

Image :smug:
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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:21 am
by Clive
very good snipits there, the thing I noticed about North is how aggresive he was on Sunday, I think he's developing another aspect to his game a explosive hit on people, he was injoying every second of that match.
And that Brad incident its clear Rory best helped spin Ryan around its he that should be banned.

Some quriky facts for you
Did you notice how long sexton was on his place kicking well on one kick he took 2mins, and thats against the rules.
50,000 was the attendance lots of empty seats don't know the capacity.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:36 pm
by JAT
Newport Gwent Dragons head coach Darren Edwards says the club have offered fly-half Jason Tovey a new deal in a bid to ward off interest from Cardiff Blues. Tovey's Dragons contract expires at the end of the season and the 22-year-old's agent has confirmed he has "verbally agreed" a two-year deal at the Blues. Blues coach Gareth Baber has admitted an "interest" but the Dragons hope an improved deal will tempt Tovey to stay. "We've offered Jason a new contract, that is with his agency," said Edwards.

"That will be our final contract offer. We offer our contracts at market value and that's as much as we can do.

"The ball is in his court."

If Tovey departs the Dragons it will be a huge blow to the struggling Pro 12 side as the Rodney Parade region will lose captain Luke Charteris in the summer. Aled Brew's Dragons deal also expires at the end of the season and the Wales wing has also been linked with a move to France. So the Dragons have launched a bid to keep one of their prized assets at the Gwent region but their closest rivals are certainly keen on the former Wales under-20 international. "There is an interest," confirmed Blues coach Gareth Baber.

"Jason is a great player."

"I've coached Jason since he was 18 years of age and in terms of the skill level he has got, he'll be a great asset to us here at the Cardiff Blues."

"But he is a Dragons player at the moment and we'll see where we are at the end of March."

Tovey's proposed move to the Blues is sure to cast doubts over the future of fly-half Dan Parks, who retired from Scotland duty on Tuesday, at the Cardiff City Stadium. Parks, signed from Glasgow in 2010 , has a contract at the Blues until the end of the season but has been linked with a move away from south Wales. Experienced former Wales fly-half Ceri Sweeney has also been linked with a return to home-town club Pontypridd. It seems Tovey, the 2010 Young Welsh Player of the Year, is the man the Blues hope will create chances for their Wales international back-line of Jamie Roberts, Gavin Henson, Leigh Halfpenny and Alex Cuthbert. Tovey's agent Jonathan Stuart, who works for Top Marque Sports management company, revealed to BBC Sport in January that his player has "verbally agreed" a "two-year deal" with the Blues.

Tovey, who was part of Wales' training camp ahead of the 2011 Rugby World Cup, will also hope the move boosts his Wales chances as the versatile back wants to be considered as a long-term option at number 10 and compete with Rhys Priestland, James Hook and Dan Biggar. Tovey was called up by Wales for their 2008 summer tour to North America but was forced to withdraw as he was required to play for the Dragons in a Heineken Cup play-off. He also had to pull out of Wales' pre-2011 World Cup training camp in Poland because of injury but Tovey passed the 500-point mark for the Dragons in their pre-Christmas derby defeat to the Blues.
Alright, the Dragons frontin and trying to keep Tovey!
Jason Tovey is to leave Newport Gwent Dragons at the end of the season to join Welsh Pro 12 rivals Cardiff Blues. BBC Sport Wales understands the 22-year-old fly-half, whose Dragons contract expires in the summer, has signed a two-year deal at the Blues. Blues coach Gareth Baber has admitted an "interest" in the ex-Wales under-20 international while Dragons offered Tovey a new deal in a bid to keep him. But Tovey, a Rodney Parade academy graduate, has opted to exit Dragons. Tovey's departure is a blow to the struggling Dragons as the Newport-based region are set to lose a host of senior players this summer. Dragons will lose captain Luke Charteris in the summer while Aled Brew's Dragons deal also expires at the end of the season as the Wales wing has been linked with a move to France. Tovey's planned move to the Blues is sure to cast doubts over the future of fly-half Dan Parks, who retired from Scotland duty on Tuesday, at the Cardiff City Stadium.

Parks, signed from Glasgow in 2010 , has a contract at the Blues until the end of the season but has been linked with a move away from south Wales. The Blues' experienced former Wales fly-half Ceri Sweeney has also been linked with a return to home-town club Pontypridd. It seems Tovey, the 2010 Young Welsh Player of the Year, is the man the Blues hope will create chances for their Wales international back-line of Jamie Roberts, Gavin Henson, Leigh Halfpenny and Alex Cuthbert. Tovey's agent Jonathan Stuart, who works for Top Marque Sports management company, revealed to BBC Sport in January that his player has "verbally agreed" a "two-year deal" with the Blues.

Tovey, who was part of Wales' training camp ahead of the 2011 Rugby World Cup, will also hope the move boosts his Wales chances as the versatile back wants to be considered as a long-term option at number 10 and compete with Rhys Priestland, James Hook and Dan Biggar. Tovey, who made his senior Dragons debut in 2008 after graduating through their academy, was called up by Wales for their 2008 summer tour to North America but was forced to withdraw as he was required to play for the Dragons in a Heineken Cup play-off. He also had to pull out of Wales' pre-2011 World Cup training camp in Poland because of injury but Tovey passed the 500-point mark for the Dragons in their pre-Christmas derby defeat to the Blues.
Bollocks, oh and
Newport Gwent Dragons have been given a £10,000 suspended fine and are forced to forfeit their LV= Cup clash with Saracens after the game was postponed. The Welsh region called the game off as their Rodney Parade pitch was frozen. But the LV= Cup's organising committee said there were no suitable alternative arrangements so awarded the English champions the fixture by a 20-0 score. The Dragons, whose suspended fine is in place until next season's pool phase is completed, finished bottom of Pool D. In a statement, cup organisers said: "The LV organising committee accepted that there was no intention to gain any advantage by the pitch being unplayable and that preventative measures were put in place. "The LV Cup regulations are clear in that it is the home team's responsibility to ensure they can stage the fixture, as outlined in regulation 6.7."

The Dragons have been forced to postponed a number of fixtures in recent years due to frozen or waterlogged pitches, including successive home derbies against the Cardiff Blues in 2010 and 2011 .

The Newport-based club also had to move their Heineken Cup pool game with Wasps from their frozen Rodney Parade home to the nearby Cardiff City Stadium in December 2010 because the ground in the Welsh capital had undersoil heating.


Double bollocks. BUT!
Aled Brew is set to buck the recent trend of Rodney Parade departures by signing a new contract with Newport Gwent Dragons. The Wales wing, whose contract is up at the end of the season, had been linked with a move to Perpignan. But BBC Wales Sport understands that talks broke down following a change in the coaching set up at the French club. Brew has been overlooked for Wales' Six Nations squad but won his eighth cap in his sole appearance at the World Cup. The presence of Shane Williams and the emergence of George North, Leigh Halfpenny and Alex Cuthbert has restricted his opportunities in the Wales jersey. Brew's decision to stay with the Dragons comes a day after fly-half Jason Tovey confirmed he was leaving the region at the end of the season to join Cardiff Blues. The Newport-based region will also be losing Luke Charteris in June, with the Wales lock heavily linked with a move to Perpignan.

Chartersis's move to the Catalan club is expected to be unaffected by the coaching shake-up at the club, which follows the sacking of Jacques Delmas as coach in November. Delmas, who took over in July, paid the price for a poor start to the season that saw Perpignan languishing in ninth place in France's Top 14 Championship after 10 games. Defeat to the Dragons in the Amlin Challenge Cup was deemed to be the final straw. Marc Delpoux, current coach of Bordeaux-Begles and a former Perpignan captain, will take over at the end of the season.
Dew it's hard being a Dragons fan.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:10 pm
by roughneck
Bump
Glanmor'sGhost wrote:
roughneck wrote:The move to the city stadium has really f**ked Cardiff rugby. It will be the pie man's legacy.
The pie man has a dilemma. How to step aside without looking like a f**king bellend
If the blues go into administration, I would imagine it'll either be the Cardiff athletic club or the WRU themselves who would (try to) pick up the pieces :?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:29 pm
by Glanmor'sGhost
roughneck wrote:Bump
Glanmor'sGhost wrote:
roughneck wrote:The move to the city stadium has really f**ked Cardiff rugby. It will be the pie man's legacy.
The pie man has a dilemma. How to step aside without looking like a f**king bellend
If the blues go into administration, I would imagine it'll either be the Cardiff athletic club or the WRU themselves who would (try to) pick up the pieces :?
Or the other current shareholders. Thomas isn't the only wealthy man on the board.

A good rumour a few months back, heard more than once from sources who've been right before.:

The WRU will buy the Arms Park and lease it back to Cardiff. This would be win win win win: Thomas's loans would be repaid and he could happily skip into the sunset. The Athletic club would get a payday. Cardiff Blues would be able to start again debt free. The WRU would have a rental income every year and the chance to either complete the MS and/or build hospitality facilities on the rest of CAP.

Just rumour though. Though that'd still leave the problem of getting out of the CCS deal. So much speculation about clauses and stuff the only conclusion you can come to is that noone has a clue. Maybe going into admin and reforming is the only way. I don't know. This all might get much worse before it gets better.

In any case, without a deal like the one above, I cant see how Thomas can step out the picture without looking like someone who's made a real mess of things. His ego won't like that.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:48 pm
by roughneck
The WRU will buy the Arms Park and lease it back to Cardiff. This would be win win win win: Thomas's loans would be repaid and he could happily skip into the sunset. The Athletic club would get a payday. Cardiff Blues would be able to start again debt free. The WRU would have a rental income every year and the chance to either complete the MS and/or build hospitality facilities on the rest of CAP.
That would certainly be an interesting scenario.
Though that'd still leave the problem of getting out of the CCS deal
CCFC promotion would probably help but that doesn't seem very likely at this point. Council intervention maybe . . . . at the end of the day CCFC wouldn't have had their lego stadium if it wasn't for the council giving(?)/cheaply selling the land.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:58 pm
by penguin
roughneck wrote:
The WRU will buy the Arms Park and lease it back to Cardiff. This would be win win win win: Thomas's loans would be repaid and he could happily skip into the sunset. The Athletic club would get a payday. Cardiff Blues would be able to start again debt free. The WRU would have a rental income every year and the chance to either complete the MS and/or build hospitality facilities on the rest of CAP.
That would certainly be an interesting scenario.
Though that'd still leave the problem of getting out of the CCS deal
CCFC promotion would probably help but that doesn't seem very likely at this point. Council intervention maybe . . . . at the end of the day CCFC wouldn't have had their lego stadium if it wasn't for the council giving(?)/cheaply selling the land.
If they lose the likes of Roberts and 1/2p imagine the crowds at the CCS next season!!! On the plus side you'd be able to hear exactly what the ref was saying...

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:55 pm
by JAT
Club rugby chat

What the fudge? This table is all crazy n shit

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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:06 pm
by Glanmor'sGhost
JAT wrote:Club rugby chat

What the fudge? This table is all crazy n shit
Can you expand? Or are you just surprised at how pants Newport are?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:08 pm
by roughneck
The Carmarthenshire clubs are doing well this year.

Not sure why they haven't used Carmarthen Quins' logo there.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:10 pm
by JAT
Glanmor'sGhost wrote:
JAT wrote:Club rugby chat

What the fudge? This table is all crazy n shit
Can you expand? Or are you just surprised at how pants Newport are?
Newport, Swansea, Cardiff all at the wrong end of the table Quins and Llandovery up the top end. Bit of a pity about Tonmawr. If someone had shown you that table at the beginning of the season don't tell me you wouldn't have been surprised.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:10 pm
by Glanmor'sGhost
roughneck wrote:The Carmarthenshire clubs are doing well this year.

Not sure why they haven't used Carmarthen Quins' logo there.
Thats a point, they're not using Pontypool's either. Conspiracy theories have been built on less.