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Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:24 pm
by bessantj
If Wales hadn't won the grand slam it's likely that we would still be waiting for a gay player to lift that trophy.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:26 pm
by bessantj
Well I've had a mouthful of my lemon squash and calmed down. An incredible match and a wonderful memory. It was worth not banging the missus to watch. #gaygrandslam

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:28 pm
by Derwyn
bessantj wrote:And there is Gareth Thomas lifting the trophy and to think he's doing that while gay, amazing achievement.
Gay Gar drew on the strength given to him by Arwel Thomas all those years earlier in the caravan.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:31 pm
by bessantj
Derwyn wrote:
bessantj wrote:And there is Gareth Thomas lifting the trophy and to think he's doing that while gay, amazing achievement.
Gay Gar drew on the strength given to him by Arwel Thomas all those years earlier in the caravan.
Obviously wouldn't be the last thing he lifts but is the most impressive.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:33 pm
by bessantj
Obviously seeing such a jubilant crowd can get you excited but please REMAIN INDOORS.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:45 am
by Jeff the Bear
Derwyn wrote:
bessantj wrote:And there is Gareth Thomas lifting the trophy and to think he's doing that while gay, amazing achievement.
Gay Gar drew on the strength given to him by Arwel Thomas all those years earlier in the caravan.
I heard it was Derek the weatherman.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:02 am
by Frodder
bessantj in a single handed attempt to get us to the 600. 2 more games should do it

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:13 pm
by bessantj
Jeff the Bear wrote:
Derwyn wrote:
bessantj wrote:And there is Gareth Thomas lifting the trophy and to think he's doing that while gay, amazing achievement.
Gay Gar drew on the strength given to him by Arwel Thomas all those years earlier in the caravan.
I heard it was Derek the weatherman.
Slightly related. We shan't see the like of Derek Bevan again, really understood the game.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:14 pm
by bessantj
Frodder wrote:bessantj in a single handed attempt to get us to the 600. 2 more games should do it
I felt as if I had restrained myself, I feel as if I could have posted more.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:20 pm
by Jeff the Bear
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:bessantj in a single handed attempt to get us to the 600. 2 more games should do it
I felt as if I had restrained myself, I feel as if I could have posted more.
I've had a go, and bessan has had a go. I think if everyone watched and "live blogs" the 2005 Grandslam match, not only will we make it to 600 pages, but we'll no doubt capture the true essence of the game. :thumbup:

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:21 pm
by Frodder
We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:36 pm
by bessantj
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:42 pm
by New guy
bessantj wrote:And there is Gareth Thomas lifting the trophy and to think he's doing that while gay, amazing achievement.
:lol:

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:47 pm
by New guy
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer
How about away to Australia in 2007 (the one we were winning until Cooper kicked the ball away) or away to South Africa when Sanjay smashed that saffa in the corner and gave away a PT.

We were miles ahead in both of those matches.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:36 pm
by Frodder
New guy wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer
How about away to Australia in 2007 (the one we were winning until Cooper kicked the ball away) or away to South Africa when Sanjay smashed that saffa in the corner and gave away a PT.

We were miles ahead in both of those matches.
Iirc the Cuthbert was excellent against SA

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm
by LandOTurk
New guy wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer
How about away to Australia in 2007 (the one we were winning until Cooper kicked the ball away) or away to South Africa when Sanjay smashed that saffa in the corner and gave away a PT.

We were miles ahead in both of those matches.
The kicker for me was when Beale glided through in the 80th minute to beat us.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:19 pm
by Derwyn
Do we have a volunteer for the 2011 semi final?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:22 pm
by LandOTurk
Derwyn wrote:Do we have a volunteer for the 2011 semi final?
Too busy. Working like a banshee.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:24 pm
by LandOTurk
If (and when?) Pivac rides out into the sun at the end of 2020 - he literally has 10 games to prove himself - who would you want in his stead?

For me, Vern Cotter has got to be near the top of the list. Would he leave Fiji halfway through a RWC cycle though?

Who else?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:39 pm
by Derwyn
LandOTurk wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Do we have a volunteer for the 2011 semi final?
Too busy. Working like a banshee.
I would not wish to put one of the good Welsh posters through such misery. Maybe Wyndham could step up.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:15 pm
by New guy
Frodder wrote:
New guy wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer
How about away to Australia in 2007 (the one we were winning until Cooper kicked the ball away) or away to South Africa when Sanjay smashed that saffa in the corner and gave away a PT.

We were miles ahead in both of those matches.
Iirc the Cuthbert was excellent against SA
Yeah I think you're right. Look at him on the first 3 tries in this video, like a man possessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp_xWUniMKI

Anyone know who's playing number 7 for us? I don't think I've ever seen that bloke before in my life.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:26 pm
by LandOTurk
New guy wrote:
Frodder wrote:
New guy wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Frodder wrote:We should try reverse psychology and stream some of shiter games. Nominations would be against SA for RWC 95 and against the Saes RWC warm up 2003.
Against England in August 2007 would be the killer
How about away to Australia in 2007 (the one we were winning until Cooper kicked the ball away) or away to South Africa when Sanjay smashed that saffa in the corner and gave away a PT.

We were miles ahead in both of those matches.
Iirc the Cuthbert was excellent against SA
Yeah I think you're right. Look at him on the first 3 tries in this video, like a man possessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp_xWUniMKI

Anyone know who's playing number 7 for us? I don't think I've ever seen that bloke before in my life.
Never knew Turnbull ever played 7 for us. I guess we just went big against SA.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:44 pm
by New guy
LandOTurk wrote:Never knew Turnbull ever played 7 for us. I guess we just went big against SA.
Yeah apparently I'd erased that from my memory too.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:04 am
by Frodder
New guy wrote:
LandOTurk wrote:Never knew Turnbull ever played 7 for us. I guess we just went big against SA.
Yeah apparently I'd erased that from my memory too.
A good, solid regional player is our Josh

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:41 pm
by P in VG
Following on from the Stealing a Paycheck thread - who are the biggest shysters to have played in Wales (club or international) other than Derwyn Jones?

From recent memory - I'll start us off with:

-Zane Kirchner at the Dragons
-Rory Thornton at Os/Blues
-Lloyd Peers/Ashley
-Jonathon Thomas for Wales (apart from vs NZ in 2003)
-Sam Norton-Knight at the Blues

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:29 pm
by Frodder
P in VG wrote:Following on from the Stealing a Paycheck thread - who are the biggest shysters to have played in Wales (club or international) other than Derwyn Jones?

From recent memory - I'll start us off with:

-Zane Kirchner at the Dragons
-Rory Thornton at Os/Blues
-Lloyd Peers/Ashley
-Jonathon Thomas for Wales (apart from vs NZ in 2003)
-Sam Norton-Knight at the Blues
Anonymous Thomas was excellent in 2008 tbf

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:40 pm
by Derwyn
Jonathan Thomas x( kept being picked for being our Lineout captain

I’ll always remember Sam Norton-Shites debut for the Blouses. Hilariously bad.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:39 pm
by Frodder
What about that Saffa full back the Scarlets signed. He was utterly crap

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:44 pm
by Derwyn
The poor bastard had hopes of playing for Wales. Little did he know that he would be chucked on the scrap heap a year later.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:56 pm
by Ceejay
Fat little fucker too wasn't he.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:58 pm
by Ceejay
P in VG wrote:Following on from the Stealing a Paycheck thread - who are the biggest shysters to have played in Wales (club or international) other than Derwyn Jones?

From recent memory - I'll start us off with:

-Zane Kirchner at the Dragons
-Rory Thornton at Os/Blues
-Lloyd Peers/Ashley
-Jonathon Thomas for Wales (apart from vs NZ in 2003)
-Sam Norton-Knight at the Blues
We lost Nicky and replaced him with SKK - amazing.

Anyhoo - Iestyn Harris, never really did much for me after his switch from league

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:11 pm
by Frodder
Ceejay wrote:
P in VG wrote:Following on from the Stealing a Paycheck thread - who are the biggest shysters to have played in Wales (club or international) other than Derwyn Jones?

From recent memory - I'll start us off with:

-Zane Kirchner at the Dragons
-Rory Thornton at Os/Blues
-Lloyd Peers/Ashley
-Jonathon Thomas for Wales (apart from vs NZ in 2003)
-Sam Norton-Knight at the Blues
We lost Nicky and replaced him with SKK - amazing.

Anyhoo - Iestyn Harris, never really did much for me after his switch from league
I remember when we went through the phase of thinking any League shister was the second coming. He was the cream of the crop so to speak

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:45 am
by LandOTurk
Ceejay wrote:
P in VG wrote:Following on from the Stealing a Paycheck thread - who are the biggest shysters to have played in Wales (club or international) other than Derwyn Jones?

From recent memory - I'll start us off with:

-Zane Kirchner at the Dragons
-Rory Thornton at Os/Blues
-Lloyd Peers/Ashley
-Jonathon Thomas for Wales (apart from vs NZ in 2003)
-Sam Norton-Knight at the Blues
We lost Nicky and replaced him with SKK - amazing.

Anyhoo - Iestyn Harris, never really did much for me after his switch from league
I was at the Millenium watching Wales play in the 6N/AIs when Iestyn was FH (so 2001/2 before he went to IC for the next 2 years). He had this 4 steps bollocks before kicking. I said to my Dad, if he does 4 steps here off a scrum deep in his own 22, it will be charged down. Sure as f'ing eggs, I counted his 4 steps, charged down and a try. Does anyone have footage of that?

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:50 am
by Frodder
Iestyn poor Iestyn. Brought in to be the next great 10 to be an ordinary 12 and then quietly cast back to League. He tried his best

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:55 am
by penguin
Frodder wrote:What about that Saffa full back the Scarlets signed. He was utterly crap
Clayton Blommetjies - plenty of injuries during his time there, so some sympathy...but yeah, not a success story.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:59 am
by penguin
Frodder wrote:Iestyn poor Iestyn. Brought in to be the next great 10 to be an ordinary 12 and then quietly cast back to League. He tried his best
We did our usual thing with him, build him up straight away, throw him in at the deep end at 10...and then declare him a disaster when he unsurprisingly failed. Better management and more time and he could have been an asset. We were still in the era of being pretty f*cking awful, so the idea he was going to be the saviour of a side when the pack spent more time in the bar than the gym was always ridiculous.
Harris made his début for the Welsh side...Having played only 200 minutes of rugby union before his international début, Harris struggled, particularly with his tactical kicking.
What? Harris wasn't immediately able to play 10 behind a sh*t pack...useless prick.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:41 pm
by Red Revolution
penguin wrote:
Frodder wrote:Iestyn poor Iestyn. Brought in to be the next great 10 to be an ordinary 12 and then quietly cast back to League. He tried his best
We did our usual thing with him, build him up straight away, throw him in at the deep end at 10...and then declare him a disaster when he unsurprisingly failed. Better management and more time and he could have been an asset. We were still in the era of being pretty f*cking awful, so the idea he was going to be the saviour of a side when the pack spent more time in the bar than the gym was always ridiculous.
Harris made his début for the Welsh side...Having played only 200 minutes of rugby union before his international début, Harris struggled, particularly with his tactical kicking.
What? Harris wasn't immediately able to play 10 behind a sh*t pack...useless prick.
I blame Jiffy. Iestyn had that awesome debut for Cardiff (a hattrick and a truckload of points if I remember rightly) then Jiffy was leading the charge for his instant elevation.

The real Jiffy finished up his league career and was replaced with a pod person who's been sabotaging union in Wales ever since.

1. Stink up the national side (more so) as a player 2 years past his best on his return.
2. Get Iestyn ensconced in our shitty midfield leading up to the 2003 world cup, [Edit: Feck me - I forgot entirely he played in the world cup to meh effect].
3. Round things out with his punditry ever since.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:14 pm
by Frodder
Iestyn played at RWC 2003 and was considered a 1st teamer hence he didn't play against NZ.

That line up included Shane, Shanks, Wellies and Sweeney in a pretty handy back line

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:48 pm
by Ceejay
Frodder wrote:Iestyn poor Iestyn. Brought in to be the next great 10 to be an ordinary 12 and then quietly cast back to League. He tried his best
More time and less pressure was definitely required for him. Jason Robinson was garbage first time he came down from league. Remember watching him in that European game at CAP for bath, he didn't know his elbow from his arsehole that night, but was given time and made the switch.

Re: The Official Welsh Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:19 pm
by LandOTurk
penguin wrote:
Frodder wrote:What about that Saffa full back the Scarlets signed. He was utterly crap
Clayton Blommetjies - plenty of injuries during his time there, so some sympathy...but yeah, not a success story.
Not injuries, just supremely unfit. Went to Leicester and is now back home. Cassiem was injured but is now v good.