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It's a strange, in-betweeny sort of existence but - much like my present experiment with growing the ends of my moustache out so I can wax them into curls like Dahli - I'm just not ready to give PR up yet.
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Short Man Syndrome wrote:It's a strange, in-betweeny sort of existence but - much like my present experiment with growing the ends of my moustache out so I can wax them into curls like Dahli - I'm just not ready to give PR up yet.
Well, we've just completed another page :thumbup:
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Frodder wrote:Right guys it's clear we can't keep 2 threads going. Do we go all in on NPR?
I dip into both. Fine going into Welsh thread over there as our main discussion place but will still say on here for other threads too. Let's see what consensus says.
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I think all the NPR lot will end up back here eventually.

Either that or both forums will die a slow and painful death.
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I have joined N P R but only in case this one goes through. I haven`t posted on there (apart from letting them know I had joined.)
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Some wonderful weather we’re having.

Just saw a chinook fly over. Clear skies. Wonderful sight.

As for this NPR nonsense. Pah! It won’t last. They’ll all come running back. It’s mainly populated by the clique. A clique that has been dwindling in numbers for a few years now. Not sustainable!

You won’t find me on there. Nope. Nuh-uh. Not for me.
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Both the NPR and forum365 rugby bits are slowing down on traffic drastically. A lot of them is repeat threads and updates anyway. I think it will all drain back here.
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Derwyn wrote:Some wonderful weather we’re having.

Just saw a chinook fly over. Clear skies. Wonderful sight.

As for this NPR nonsense. Pah! It won’t last. They’ll all come running back. It’s mainly populated by the clique. A clique that has been dwindling in numbers for a few years now. Not sustainable!

You won’t find me on there. Nope. Nuh-uh. Not for me.

A Chinook came down in Carms yesterday too.
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-07- ... ash-landed
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It seems Julie Patterson is the front runner for the head job. She seems to have a great CV who understands rugby at the top and down in the grassroots.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-18677822

The woman working in the shadows of Welsh rugby who's just emerged as the frontrunner for the top job at WRU
Interviews have been held to find a successor to the WRU's outgoing chief executive Martyn Phillips, with a shortlist of five leading candidates drawn up

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Welsh Rugby Union operations director Julie Paterson at the Principality Stadium
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Julie Paterson is the frontrunner to succeed Martyn Phillips and become the first woman to be chief executive of the Welsh Rugby Union in its 139-year history, WalesOnline has learned.

Phillips had been due to leave his post months ago but has temporarily stayed on to tackle the financial crisis the WRU are facing following the coronavirus pandemic.

However, the process to replace him has continued with a shortlist of five leading candidates being drawn up.

Paterson, who started work 31 years ago aged 19 as an entry level accountant at the WRU, is on that list and has emerged as a prime candidate for the top job in the Welsh game.

Paterson works in Welsh rugby's shadows as the WRU's operations directors and has a huge involvement in matters from top to bottom of the game.

She has had an increasingly influential role and WRU chairman Gareth Davies has repeatedly stated his desire for more diversity.


Paterson fits the bill and is the longest serving member of the WRU’s executive board, having been appointed to it 14 years ago.

She also sits on the WRU's Community Rugby Board, which looks after the club scene, and the Professional Rugby Board which oversees the regional game.

The PRB consists of representatives from Cardiff Blues, Dragons, Ospreys and Scarlets, and the WRU. It is responsible for, among other things, the country's pay bands, wage negotiations and settling disputes. Paterson is directly involved in those decision-making processes.

Paterson also represents Wales at World Rugby, European and Guinness PRO14 level.

Virtually everything that happens behind the scenes in Welsh rugby, whether it’s regulatory, medical, insurance or integrity matters, crosses her desk.

She was at the hub of the investigation into the betting scandal which saw Wales assistant coach Rob Howley sent home from last year's World Cup in Japan and subsequently suspended from the sport after he admitted breaching World Rugby's strict regulations on gambling.

Paterson's wide brief also involves helping bring huge non-rugby events to the Principality Stadium.

In a previous interview with WalesOnline, Paterson said: “I go from dealing with boxing promoter Frank Warren one week to Pontypool Rugby Club the following week.”

She explained what it was like being a woman in what has largely been a male-dominated industry.

“The Frank Warrens of this world and the external promoters from London don’t have a problem with a woman being in charge," said Paterson.

“But in Wales it’s different, although I don’t take offence. I went to a rugby club to give a presentation and this chap came up to me and said: ‘Look, lovely, can you get the tea and coffee on because the bigwigs from the WRU will be here soon?’

“I said: ‘By the way, I’m Julie from the WRU’. The look on his face was brilliant when he realised who I was. He said: ‘Look, I didn’t realise you’d be a woman’.”

In a more recent interview with The Rugby Paper, Paterson said: “That sort of thing was absolutely standard back then, but you’ve got to laugh at it.

“I use that story as a way of showing what’s changed. There is no way people would be like that with me now.

"There is not a single union that questions me turning up or the role I play.”

Paterson said rugby has “grown out of sight” compared to when she started work at the WRU in 1989 and was “unrecognisable” from what it was back then.

She pointed out the outbreak of coronavirus has given the sport a chance to form a plan to make it economically sustainable.

“This is an opportunity to get things right and turn a negative into a positive,” she said.

“As a sport it has allowed us time to take a step back to look at ways of shoring up the ship so we can come out of the other side of this not just in Wales, but globally too.”


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Paterson has been joined in Welsh rugby’s corridors of power by Amanda Blanc, Aileen Richards, Marianne Okland and Liza Burgess as female representation has increased.

She stressed: “My passion is no less than it was and it doesn’t feel like the job is done.

“I’m 30 years in, but there is always the next thing coming over the horizon.”
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Jaw to Drags formally announced. Good for both parties I think.

What is Drags' first XV looking like now?

15 Jordan
14 Holmes
13 Tomcyn
12 Jaw
11 Hewitt/Dyer
10 Sam
9 Rhodri

1 Jarvis - actually no idea about your props - Bevington, Brok???
2 Dee
3 Brown
4 Screech
5 Rowlands
6 Wainwright
7 Ollie/Basham
8 Moriarty
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That backrow is incredible. They're better off putting Holmes at 15 and Hewitt and Dyer on the wings, Jordan doesn't do defence.
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According to the Wail:
Roberts becomes Ryan’s latest signing, following in the footsteps of Wales pair Jonah Holmes and Nick Tompkins, and Welsh-qualified lock Joe Maksymiw.

Wales Six Nations lock find Will Rowlands is set to join from Wasps and new Welsh-qualified prop Greg Bateman from Leicester Tigers.
The last two seem pretty definitive. You've got to wonder how big the sofa is that the Dragons have managed to find so much cash down the back of. Maybe DAC has won the lottery and following his dream of making the Dragons the best team in Europe.
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Jeff the Bear wrote:According to the Wail:
Roberts becomes Ryan’s latest signing, following in the footsteps of Wales pair Jonah Holmes and Nick Tompkins, and Welsh-qualified lock Joe Maksymiw.

Wales Six Nations lock find Will Rowlands is set to join from Wasps and new Welsh-qualified prop Greg Bateman from Leicester Tigers.
The last two seem pretty definitive. You've got to wonder how big the sofa is that the Dragons have managed to find so much cash down the back of. Maybe DAC has won the lottery and following his dream of making the Dragons the best team in Europe.
Way I heard it is they saved so much money by Moriarty going to 80% WRU funded and Tyler Morgan leaving and with Tomkins being 80% WRU and Rowlands being 80% WRU, they're only paying out for Roberts and Bateman, good business in other words.
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Have they not learnt their lessons on signing aged returning welsh players, especially those who've never thrived at club level. Their midfield is now two guys on 1 year deals in what will be the busiest international season ever. Moronic.
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Theflier wrote:Have they not learnt their lessons on signing aged returning welsh players, especially those who've never thrived at club level. Their midfield is now two guys on 1 year deals in what will be the busiest international season ever. Moronic.
Very much this.

Tomcyns is one that really doesn’t make sense what with all the internationals planned.

And as for Jaw? An ageing player that is well past his best. Will be available all season though, I guess.

Having said all that I am happy with Holmes. And I’ll be really happy with Bateman and Rowlands :smug: :smug:
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Hope the WRU is not going to plead poverty over the next few weeks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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We're all going to get smashed by the Dragons that's for sure :nod:
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Where’s Paul and his sources?

Wasps new head coach is confident that Rowlands will be with them for the start of the season.

I fear the one player we need is the one player we won’t get.
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Glad to see everyone has joined me. I was getting lonely. Welcome back! Are we staying now?
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Had to chuckle that Jaw said he had a chat with Blues before the Dragons because 'it was the right thing to do'. AKA I wanted to go back to Cardiff but they didn't want me.
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Derwyn wrote:
Theflier wrote:Have they not learnt their lessons on signing aged returning welsh players, especially those who've never thrived at club level. Their midfield is now two guys on 1 year deals in what will be the busiest international season ever. Moronic.
Very much this.

Tomcyns is one that really doesn’t make sense what with all the internationals planned.

And as for Jaw? An ageing player that is well past his best. Will be available all season though, I guess.

Having said all that I am happy with Holmes. And I’ll be really happy with Bateman and Rowlands :smug: :smug:
Yes, its not a great deal to bring on Tomcyn - more WRU led than Dragons perhaps.
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Looks like Cardiff are seeking to reduce their food bill by releasing Nick Williams? So long, impossibly large lump of humanity...

edit: not releasing, he's retiring. Fare thee well, noble mammoth.
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as Ive said before, crying shame between him and halaholo they have 8 daughters and no sons
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Theflier wrote:as Ive said before, crying shame between him and halaholo they have 8 daughters and no sons
That between them will produce 16 sons. Long term planning that is
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Looks like Anscombe won't play for the rest of this year, if ever. Ospreys may well have a player for 2 years before he makes his debut.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-18728914
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7N31 wrote:Looks like Anscombe won't play for the rest of this year, if ever. Ospreys may well have a player for 2 years before he makes his debut.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-18728914
That's a real shame for the lad.
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If only Gatland had taken him off after the initial knock.

Hindsight ay.
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It just goes to show how quickly a career can be ended, I say best of luck to any player that moves club for big bucks.Which was why even though I was disappointed, I wish Owen Williams all the best, he`s had his injury scares.
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Frodder wrote:
7N31 wrote:Looks like Anscombe won't play for the rest of this year, if ever. Ospreys may well have a player for 2 years before he makes his debut.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-18728914
That's a real shame for the lad.
Anscombe only signed a 2 year contract didn't he? He'll be back at the Blues in no time. Never played a game for the Ospreys.
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He'll be nigh on 30, most likely Japan. Shame, one of, if not, the most talented ball player I've ever seen
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Reading between the lines, it sounds like he's taking it hard.
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Theflier wrote:He'll be nigh on 30, most likely Japan. Shame, one of, if not, the most talented ball player I've ever seen
Will miss out on the Lions too. Still has a crack at the RWC aged 32, and then heads to Japan. He may not even make it back to rugby though, so everything is a bonus.
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I doubt it, he needs to cash in, ply the game right and he'll be set up well for life. I do think he'll make n excellent attack coach though.

unrelated, but I've just gone on WoL, and on the front page is 2 sub 30 year olds who've appeared to top themselves. Seems like there's 10 a season recently, whats bloody going on.
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Theflier wrote:He'll be nigh on 30, most likely Japan. Shame, one of, if not, the most talented ball player I've ever seen
Now dont get me wrong, I like Anscombe but I wouldn't go that far.

One of the most talented fly halves to play for Wales in my lifetime sure but lets be honest here if he was that talented he'd have worn black not red.
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New guy wrote:
Theflier wrote:He'll be nigh on 30, most likely Japan. Shame, one of, if not, the most talented ball player I've ever seen
Now dont get me wrong, I like Anscombe but I wouldn't go that far.

One of the most talented fly halves to play for Wales in my lifetime sure but lets be honest here if he was that talented he'd have worn black not red.
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He most definitley would've and I imagine its a rather large regret for him. He came through at the same age as barrett and sopoaga, had cruden infront of him at the chiefs and Carter was still king, he probably saw 15 Ab caps or 80 wales caps. Fast forward to now, they have mounga who I'd say could start infront, that's it, and we've more competent pro 10s than 2000 to 2015 combined. shit luck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwSf9FPFPw

Regan Grace back to Wales?
Would need union winger skills (but its the easiest position to change from).
But he has a bit of the Shane about him for sure.
And unlike Shane he is from the Ospreys region too.
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From the Wail:
Welsh-qualified Joe Maksymiw, who joined from Connacht, will add depth at second row, with Matthew Screech arguably the country’s form lock at regional level before Covid-19 brought the campaign to a halt.
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Jeff the Bear wrote:From the Wail:
Welsh-qualified Joe Maksymiw, who joined from Connacht, will add depth at second row, with Matthew Screech arguably the country’s form lock at regional level before Covid-19 brought the campaign to a halt.
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arguably, very arguably indeed

Scarlets have Ball, Ratuva and Lousi; Ospreys have AWJ, Beard and Bradley, Blues have Hill and Seb - all of whom I would play before Screech - form or not.
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I stole this depth chart from ScarletFever. But that is probably the strongest lineup I have seen in some time down in Llanelli.

Some names will appear multiple times.

FB: Leigh Halfpenny, Liam Williams, Rhys Patchell, Tom Prydie
Wing: Liam Williams, Johnny McNicholl, Steff Evans, Paul Asquith, Tom Prydie, Ryan Conbeer, Tom Rogers
OC: Jonathan Davies, Tyler Morgan, Joe Roberts
IC: Johnny Williams, Steff Hughes, Paul Asquith
FH: Rhys Patchell, Angus O'Brien, Dan Jones, Sam Costelow
SH: Gareth Davies, Kiernan Hardy, Will Homer, Dane Blacker

No. 8: Uzair Cassiem, Sione Kalamafoni
OSF: Josh MacLeod, James Davies, Dan Davies, Jac Morgan
BSF: Aaron Shingler, Blade Thomson, Ed Kennedy, Tom Phillips
Lock: Jake Ball, Tex Ratuva, Sam Lousi, Steve Cummins, Lewis Rawlins, Josh Helps, Danny Drake, Jac Price, Morgan Jones
TH: Samson Lee, Werner Kruger, Javan Sebastian, Steff Thomas
Hooker: Ken Owens, Ryan Elias, Taylor Davies, Marc Jones
LH: Rob Evans, Wyn Jones, Dylan Evans, Phil Price
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