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1922 committee adjourned at 5.00. Scheduled to re-meet at 6pm. Brady in with Whips.

They think it's all over.

Theresa May is the Keith Richards of politics. She'll still be hanging on regardless.

If she hangs on till midnight the press can't cover it till Friday

happyhooker wrote:If she hangs on till midnight the press can't cover it till Friday

By God I think you're right.

Trump visit to be her last engagement!

Iain Duncan Smith: “The sofa is up against the door, she’s not leaving”

She's refusing to go

Absolute nutbar.

Wasn’t she democratically elected as party leader?

happyhooker wrote:If she hangs on till midnight the press can't cover it till Friday

Yep, that's a point. Julian Smith's meeting with the 1922 committee lasted precisely 2 minutes, he told them that she is not resigning tonight

Iain Duncan Smith: “The sofa is up against the door, she’s not leaving”.

MP tells me Chief Whip has told 22 exec May not going tonight. So ball is now in court of 22. "We've got to change the rules tonight to get her out. Who does she think she is? Imelda Marcos?'

Sorry lads, I'm still getting my head around the inner workings of British politics. If she does go, does another Tory leader get elected immediately and who becomes PM?

but the MPs, the Party Members and the Brexitists knew all along she was rubbish...

sorCrer wrote:Sorry lads, I'm still getting my head around the inner workings of British politics. If she does go, does another Tory leader get elected immediately and who becomes PM?

Iirc, the Tory party would have to elect a new leader who would then form a government. There'd be an interim PM. The new leader would become PM, but remember, the Tories don't have a majority

shereblue wrote:but the MPs, the Party Members and the Brexitists knew all along she was rubbish...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Slack

happyhooker wrote:

sorCrer wrote:Sorry lads, I'm still getting my head around the inner workings of British politics. If she does go, does another Tory leader get elected immediately and who becomes PM?

Iirc, the Tory party would have to elect a new leader who would then form a government. There'd be an interim PM. The new leader would become PM, but remember, the Tories don't have a majority

So it's a complete mess with Boris first off the rank?

She needs a couple more days to beat Gordon Brown.
Another week and she will have overtaken Wellington.

Glaston wrote:She needs a couple more days to beat Gordon Brown.
Another week and she will have overtaken Wellington.

They reckon she's trying to make it to recess.

sorCrer wrote:

happyhooker wrote:

sorCrer wrote:Sorry lads, I'm still getting my head around the inner workings of British politics. If she does go, does another Tory leader get elected immediately and who becomes PM?

Iirc, the Tory party would have to elect a new leader who would then form a government. There'd be an interim PM. The new leader would become PM, but remember, the Tories don't have a majority

So it's a complete mess with Boris first off the rank?

There are probably 10 wannabees who are keen to take over from her and have been putting campaigns together
Johnson is loved by the albeit dwindling and aging membership but no so by the parliamentary party.
This is likely to be a major shitfight

Glaston wrote:She needs a couple more days to beat Gordon Brown.
Another week and she will have overtaken Wellington.

Makes no difference to history. She is easily the worst PM in my lifetime if not of all time

You know it makes sense

All off until Friday when Sir Brady will pop over to have a tea at No10.

SaintK wrote:There are probably 10 wannabees who are keen to take over from her and have been putting campaigns together
Johnson is loved by the albeit dwindling and aging membership but no so by the parliamentary party.
This is likely to be a major shitfight

17 apparently.

shereblue wrote:but the MPs, the Party Members and the Brexitists knew all along she was rubbish...

James Slack was appointed Theresa May's political spokesman shortly after that.

Oddly enough I've just noticed the date: May 22 2019

May in lock down in the panic room at No. 10. Cameron in his garden shed.

Time for Remoaners and Brexitists to unite and take up their pitchforks

If the Libdems could come up with some sort of credible leader O'd vote for them in a heartbeat at the next GE. Can't see myself voting Tory again for a long time, if ever.

The Tory party have been at the heart of British success and prosperity for so long now, could this be the end for them

bimboman wrote:Trump visit to be her last engagement!

Plenty of revisionism by those responsible for choosing and puffing up Theresa May.

In the spirit of peace, I believe you can hold your head high (for once ) in having recognised May's personal inadequacies from the off

When did the EU give us until? Wasn't it August some time? Parliament really is not working. Guy Fawkes was just 400 years too early.

Duff Paddy wrote:The Tory party have been at the heart of British success and prosperity for so long now, could this be the end for them

I’d have thought it’s the end for labour and the tories after the recent shitshow. Both need to split.

Rugby2023 wrote:

Glaston wrote:She needs a couple more days to beat Gordon Brown.
Another week and she will have overtaken Wellington.

They reckon she's trying to make it to recess.

She will easily make it. Obvious plan is obvious

I’d love Gilbert and Sullivan to be alive and write this whole farce into a upbeat yet snide opera.

She's been booked like the talentless son of the promoter of an old time wrestling territory.

The Man Without Fear wrote:She's been booked like the talentless son of the promoter of an old time wrestling territory.

If you had to choose, between May, and Shane McMahon..?

DOB wrote:

The Man Without Fear wrote:She's been booked like the talentless son of the promoter of an old time wrestling territory.

If you had to choose, between May, and Shane McMahon..?

The Undertaker.

If you were Boris, Sajid, etc, would you actually want to take over now? The Tory party is ungovernable for the foreseeable future. And there's no majority for any agreement with the EU. Even if we have a second referendum it's probable that the leavers would win it (a while ago I asked a People's Vote campaigner about what they'd do if a further vote confirmed the first one and she said it wouldn't matter because it was the best way to show protest whatever the result!)

There's just no way for a Tory government to stagger on with a DUP crutch.

Surely a General Election is now inevitable, with the incredible - and terrifying - prospect of a Corbyn government.

Who would want to be the Tory PM who lost to the most useless party leader of the last three centuries?

I think a caretaker fall guy followed by a self-administered uppercut and some regrouping is the best the Tories can do now.

Roll on the power cuts, super tax, stand pipes, runaway inflation, Israeli boycott and shouty union convenors on the news every night...

It's why she's still there. No one wants to either wield the knife or take over this shit show and (it seems) no one is prepared to be the stalking horse.

I genuinely believe May chose party over country and she's managed to fúck them both up.

shereblue wrote:May in lock down in the panic room at No. 10. Cameron in his garden shed.

Time for Remoaners and Brexitists to unite and take up their pitchforks

Why?

Lord Denning wrote:If you were Boris, Sajid, etc, would you actually want to take over now? The Tory party is ungovernable for the foreseeable future. And there's no majority for any agreement with the EU. Even if we have a second referendum it's probable that the leavers would win it (a while ago I asked a People's Vote campaigner about what they'd do if a further vote confirmed the first one and she said it wouldn't matter because it was the best way to show protest whatever the result!)

There's just no way for a Tory government to stagger on with a DUP crutch.

Surely a General Election is now inevitable, with the incredible - and terrifying - prospect of a Corbyn government.

Who would want to be the Tory PM who lost to the most useless party leader of the last three centuries?

I think a caretaker fall guy followed by a self-administered uppercut and some regrouping is the best the Tories can do now.

Roll on the power cuts, super tax, stand pipes, runaway inflation, Israeli boycott and shouty union convenors on the news every night...

Not just ungovernable, but unelectable. Maybe for a generation, maybe longer.

Whatever happens post Brexit, the Tories will take the blame (let's not kid ourselves, there's not going to be anything to take credit for)

happyhooker wrote:It's why she's still there. No one wants to either wield the knife or take over this shit show and (it seems) no one is prepared to be the stalking horse.

I genuinely believe May chose party over country and she's managed to fúck them both up.

I think.more that she tried to satisfy both was her problem. If she'd gone for a straight hard Brexit she could have got it through at the expense of the country. If she'd gone for a bipartisan Brexit it would have been at the expense of the party. She tried to satisfy both, and when that didn't work she discovered that the alternative options had been closed off by her own actions.

The Tory party being engaged in ideological fuckwittery hasn't helped at all, and Labour leadership rules resulting in Corbyn being the leader of the opposition was the final blow. The system at the moment is designed not to reach agreement

Saint wrote:Not just ungovernable, but unelectable. Maybe for a generation, maybe longer.

Whatever happens post Brexit, the Tories will take the blame (let's not kid ourselves, there's not going to be anything to take credit for)

Depends what direction they go. 70% plus of their voters are/were Leavers, they need to get those voters back asap.