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Author:  ForzaIt [ Thu May 23, 2019 5:46 pm ]
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Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.

Author:  bimboman [ Thu May 23, 2019 5:47 pm ]
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Democrats are everywhere.

Author:  Anonymous. [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:28 pm ]
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bimboman wrote:
Democrats are everywhere.

Even in the house of commoners ?

Author:  easyray [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:36 pm ]
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ForzaIt wrote:
Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.


Delusion isn't really a left/right trait either. Amusing how it infects both sides.

Author:  bimboman [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:37 pm ]
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easyray wrote:
ForzaIt wrote:
Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.


Delusion isn't really a left/right trait either. Amusing how it infects both sides.



Socially it’s a right issue, economically the left is totally deluded....

Author:  ForzaIt [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:38 pm ]
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easyray wrote:
ForzaIt wrote:
Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.


Delusion isn't really a left/right trait either. Amusing how it infects both sides.




With delusion, there is definitely more with the Left than Right.


The magic money tree don't forget.

Author:  Anonymous. [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:47 pm ]
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ForzaIt wrote:
easyray wrote:
ForzaIt wrote:
Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.


Delusion isn't really a left/right trait either. Amusing how it infects both sides.




With delusion, there is definitely more with the Left than Right.


The magic money tree don't forget.

If you don't mind me asking how many testicles do you have ?

Author:  camroc1 [ Thu May 23, 2019 6:58 pm ]
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ForzaIt wrote:
Brexit really isn't a Left Right policy. It's amusing how so many people think it is.

The UK and the EU never has been.

It's been a fault line between economic nationalists and those more in favour of globalisation since the UK first applied to join post Suez. The economic nationalists have ranged from Tony Benn on the labour left to Enoch Powell on the Tory right, and the globalists have included Arch Tory Maggie Thatcher as well as more likely candidates like Ted Heath, Tony Blair and the entire SDP "Gang of Four".

David Edgerton is good on this stuff in his "The Rise and Fall of the British Nation- A Twentieth Century History".

I'd recommend that all UKers read it.

Author:  openclashXX [ Thu May 23, 2019 9:23 pm ]
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Peston reporting on Twitter that May expected to announce her resignation tomorrow

Stay on as caretaker until leadership contest concludes

Author:  Lord Denning [ Thu May 23, 2019 10:29 pm ]
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I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...

Author:  openclashXX [ Thu May 23, 2019 10:37 pm ]
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Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...


Agree with nearly all of this - funny that it's taken the return of Farage to truly kill off the Tory re-election hopes as beforehand they were still polling virtually neck-and-neck with Labour and a hung parliament was the most likely outcome - now I think the right-wing vote is split cleanly and Labour swoop in by hoovering up all of the left/centre-left

Author:  camroc1 [ Thu May 23, 2019 10:52 pm ]
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Ian Dunt in pessimistic mood :

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/0 ... e-next-one

Author:  bimboman [ Thu May 23, 2019 10:59 pm ]
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Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

Author:  Anonymous. [ Thu May 23, 2019 11:18 pm ]
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bimboman wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

You never know. I mean who would have thought a nutter like him would have found enough people to vote him in as Labour leader in the first place. What were those idiots thinking.

Author:  bimboman [ Thu May 23, 2019 11:26 pm ]
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Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

You never know. I mean who would have thought a nutter like him would have found enough people to vote him in as Labour leader in the first place. What were those idiots thinking.



Some where thinking it could save a terrible Tory government..... and it has .

Author:  easyray [ Fri May 24, 2019 12:11 am ]
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Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

You never know. I mean who would have thought a nutter like him would have found enough people to vote him in as Labour leader in the first place. What were those idiots thinking.


:lol: :lol:

Author:  Anonymous. [ Fri May 24, 2019 1:10 am ]
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bimboman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

You never know. I mean who would have thought a nutter like him would have found enough people to vote him in as Labour leader in the first place. What were those idiots thinking.



Some where thinking it could save a terrible Tory government..... and it has .

That remains to be seen. The one thing it has done is ensure the next PM is going to be a total bell end

Author:  Bimboc69 [ Fri May 24, 2019 8:06 am ]
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easyray wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
I give the Tories two terms out of office. The first will be after a kicking of 1997 proportions, aided by votes syphoned off by Farage. The second will be a partial recovery that falls short. By the 2029-ish election there’ll be no argument left for the Corbyn/McDonnell government. And Farage will have gone in the meantime, never to be seen again. No single issue party can ever last.

There’s no prospect of conservatism dying in the next 100 years. Though there may well be a break up of the UK. But since the break up of the EU is only slightly less likely, it’ll depend which happens first. Keep your eyes on the Italian economy and Euro currency stress...



How on earth is Corbyn economics going to last a decade?

You never know. I mean who would have thought a nutter like him would have found enough people to vote him in as Labour leader in the first place. What were those idiots thinking.


:lol: :lol:

You have got to be some sort of mental defective to pay to join the Labour Party and vote for the Bearded weirdy. They are probably antisemites as well.

Author:  sorCrer [ Fri May 24, 2019 8:14 am ]
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camroc1 wrote:


Bang on.

Author:  Duff Paddy [ Fri May 24, 2019 8:32 am ]
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sorCrer wrote:
camroc1 wrote:


Bang on.

Nobody with a brain wants the job, so you’re left with Boris

Author:  A5D5E5 [ Fri May 24, 2019 8:36 am ]
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Duff Paddy wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
camroc1 wrote:


Bang on.

Nobody with a brain wants the job, so you’re left with Boris


Nobody with a brain wants the job. So about 20 Tory MPs are keen to get it. Only surprise it is so few.

Author:  Anonymous. [ Fri May 24, 2019 11:27 am ]
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A5D5E5 wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
camroc1 wrote:


Bang on.

Nobody with a brain wants the job, so you’re left with Boris


Nobody with a brain wants the job. So about 20 Tory MPs are keen to get it. Only surprise it is so few.

I don't remember there being larger numbers on previous occasions

Author:  sewa [ Fri May 24, 2019 12:00 pm ]
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camroc1 wrote:


Nail on the head, the shit show just trundles on

Author:  jdogscoop [ Fri May 24, 2019 4:01 pm ]
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slick wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
If you were Boris, Sajid, etc, would you actually want to take over now? The Tory party is ungovernable for the foreseeable future. And there's no majority for any agreement with the EU. Even if we have a second referendum it's probable that the leavers would win it (a while ago I asked a People's Vote campaigner about what they'd do if a further vote confirmed the first one and she said it wouldn't matter because it was the best way to show protest whatever the result!)

There's just no way for a Tory government to stagger on with a DUP crutch.

Surely a General Election is now inevitable, with the incredible - and terrifying - prospect of a Corbyn government.

Who would want to be the Tory PM who lost to the most useless party leader of the last three centuries?

I think a caretaker fall guy followed by a self-administered uppercut and some regrouping is the best the Tories can do now.

Roll on the power cuts, super tax, stand pipes, runaway inflation, Israeli boycott and shouty union convenors on the news every night...


I can't help feeling that Boris does not give a shit about leading or has any particular ideology or manifesto, he just wants to have his name up on the PM board in the clubhouse and be part of history.


I totally agree. He's a blond shyster cvnt with about one twentieth of the integrity of May.

Author:  Rugby2023 [ Fri May 24, 2019 4:03 pm ]
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jdogscoop wrote:
I totally agree. He's a blond shyster cvnt with about one twentieth of the integrity of May.

Steady on...

Author:  slick [ Fri May 24, 2019 4:07 pm ]
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slick wrote:
I see some chat now that TM will resign as leader of the Cons but remain as caretaker PM until Trump has f**ked off...


:thumbup:

Author:  Anonymous. [ Fri May 24, 2019 10:19 pm ]
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slick wrote:
slick wrote:
I see some chat now that TM will resign as leader of the Cons but remain as caretaker PM until Trump has f**ked off...


:thumbup:

That was always going to be the way it went once she won the no confidence vote

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