All of you are missing the point, especially Harveys.
It's not about whether it hurts Dawkins or not. It's about cancelling academic discussion from being heard at places of higher learning and research. That is the part that is disgraceful. I'm sure Dawkins will be just fine. The students, I'm more worried about. What sort of f-cking University decides what the students should be exposed to based on whether it might hurt someone's feelings or not who believes in iron-aged magic? That is completely retarded. It is literally disgraceful.
What are we going to do next? Ban cosmologists from speaking because flat-earthers and astrologers might get offended?
It's not as if we're talking about anything that should be controversial here. At least not in sensible, rational, grown up discussion. He's an evolutionary biologist ffs. And what's he been silenced for anyway? There are young women activists in the Republic of Iran to this day being imprisoned and "disappearing" (I can only assume raped too) for the crime of speaking out about being mandatorily dressed from head to to toe in a black bag. Are we pretending that Islam (or any other religion, but perhaps especially Islam) is a shining light of sexual equality? That's absurd. To ban the world's most preeminent evolutionary biologist for speaking out against one of the obvious evils that results from religious belief is laa-laa land stuff.
Harveys wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:07 pm
Mogs is having a cry as Dawkins falls in with his beloved Harris’s beliefs. It’s an opportunity to take a shot at anything vaguely religious in nature.
Seems to me that the people who set out to disprove myth, poetry, symbolism and analogy as literally untrue are as silly as the people who accept it as literally true.
I'm going to go easy on you here as you obviously don't know much about either of them or their views.
Firstly, Dawkins has been at this since the 70s, when Harris with still in daipers. He's not "falling in" with Harris.
Secondly, nobody is out to "disprove poetry". And myth is, by definition, accepted not to be true.
You're completely missing their point. They're not trying to rid the world of art, or even spirituality. You've also picked a pretty bad example in Harris if you think that, he also promotes spirituality and meditation, and in fact has built a widely used meditation app.
They both have slightly different agendas and motivations, but it comes down to telling the truth about the nature of reality and removing the influence of mythology from science and politics. You should read some of their work sometime, because you're really way off. Neither of them (nor anyone that I know about) wants to burn bibles, tear down churches, destroy symbology or poetry or anything even remotely close to that. What they don't want is students walking out of classrooms when the teachers starts to talk about evolution, or "equal time" being given to creation theory in science class, or militant religious zealots flying planes into buildings, or Presidents being elected based on their professed belief in magic, or continual warfare over a strip of desert in the Middle East because apparently God promised it to too many people.