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Will be a little sickening to see DC in a Blues jersey, although will be great to see him back.

10. Carter
15. Barrett

Would be quite interesting, although I suspect

10. Barrett
22. Carter

Is more likely.
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So he's in covering perofeta's injury but will play behind otere black and BB.
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Anything that can build up the hopes of Blues’ fans before dashing them onto the rocks like a cormorant shitting at the high tide mark is fine by me.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote: The big un-answered question now is will Dan Carter's dad stop speaking to him? Because that was the reason given back in 2009 for him not signing with them when the Blues offered him a million dollars to move to Auckland from the Crusaders.
Pretty extraordinary circumstances and its only 10 weeks so not even super rugby really..

Either way even as a fervent Crusaders supporter, I'm happy to see him back even as a backup player.
Me too. I've heard a rumour that he's actually going to act as a Crusaders Trojan horse, to destroy the Blues season from the inside out. Expect him to miss crucial, game deciding shots at goal from close range a la Gavin Hastings in the 1991 RWC semi final.
You mean just like Robbie Deans did with the Wallabies?
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Why can't NZ's most populous catchment produce, develop and retain their own talent?
Anyway, Pungarehu is dead to me, until BB turns out for Taranaki...
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booji boy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote: The big un-answered question now is will Dan Carter's dad stop speaking to him? Because that was the reason given back in 2009 for him not signing with them when the Blues offered him a million dollars to move to Auckland from the Crusaders.
Pretty extraordinary circumstances and its only 10 weeks so not even super rugby really..

Either way even as a fervent Crusaders supporter, I'm happy to see him back even as a backup player.
Me too. I've heard a rumour that he's actually going to act as a Crusaders Trojan horse, to destroy the Blues season from the inside out. Expect him to miss crucial, game deciding shots at goal from close range a la Gavin Hastings in the 1991 RWC semi final.
You mean just like Robbie Deans did with the Wallabies?
Deans's record wasn't too bad when you compare it to supercoach Chieka's.
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Ali's Choice wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote: The big un-answered question now is will Dan Carter's dad stop speaking to him? Because that was the reason given back in 2009 for him not signing with them when the Blues offered him a million dollars to move to Auckland from the Crusaders.
Pretty extraordinary circumstances and its only 10 weeks so not even super rugby really..

Either way even as a fervent Crusaders supporter, I'm happy to see him back even as a backup player.
Me too. I've heard a rumour that he's actually going to act as a Crusaders Trojan horse, to destroy the Blues season from the inside out. Expect him to miss crucial, game deciding shots at goal from close range a la Gavin Hastings in the 1991 RWC semi final.
You mean just like Robbie Deans did with the Wallabies?
Deans's record wasn't too bad when you compare it to supercoach Chieka's.
True! :thumbup:

It was actually pretty solid in hindsight. His two Aussie successors records have been dismal by comparison.

It will be interesting to see how Rennie goes.
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Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
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Anyone remember the last game these two played together?

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We coulda done with one of the blokes in Canes country. :(
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booji boy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
booji boy wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
Pretty extraordinary circumstances and its only 10 weeks so not even super rugby really..

Either way even as a fervent Crusaders supporter, I'm happy to see him back even as a backup player.
Me too. I've heard a rumour that he's actually going to act as a Crusaders Trojan horse, to destroy the Blues season from the inside out. Expect him to miss crucial, game deciding shots at goal from close range a la Gavin Hastings in the 1991 RWC semi final.
You mean just like Robbie Deans did with the Wallabies?
Deans's record wasn't too bad when you compare it to supercoach Chieka's.
True! :thumbup:

It was actually pretty solid in hindsight. His two Aussie successors records have been dismal by comparison.

It will be interesting to see how Rennie goes.
It's been well established by the Hammettuer fluffers on here that the previous coaches get to take the glory for the success of the following coaches. Therefore Deans gets to take all the glory for his successors' dismal by comparison records.
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Tell me it is not true that Dan Carter is joining the Blues.
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Kiwias wrote:Tell me it is not true that Dan Carter is joining the Blues.
It's end of days alright.
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One of the guys at the club said he’d heard it was because DC and Robertson don’t get on.

I’ve never heard that, and he’s not the guy at the club I’d necessarily trust. Anyone heard this before?
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Kiwias wrote:Tell me it is not true that Dan Carter is joining the Blues.
:D :D :D
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This continues to cement the Blue's place as the most prestigious and desirable team in the country. Dan Carter is truly a man of culture. All the talent flocking to join the unstoppable bandwagon.
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kiwigreg369 wrote:One of the guys at the club said he’d heard it was because DC and Robertson don’t get on.

I’ve never heard that, and he’s not the guy at the club I’d necessarily trust. Anyone heard this before?

DC has lived in Auckland for years now.
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naki wrote:Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
Except 2011 when NZ won with 6th stringer Stephen Donald. :shock:
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Peaches wrote:
naki wrote:Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
Except 2011 when NZ won with 6th stringer Stephen Donald. :shock:
Didn't Dan Carter have 7 winless super rugby seasons to end his career? Even Carter's legendary 'mere presence' couldn't offset the coaching shortcomings of Todd Slackbladder.
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Peaches wrote:
naki wrote:Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
Except 2011 when NZ won with 6th stringer Stephen Donald. :shock:
I don’t think you understand what “mere presence” means

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naki wrote:
Peaches wrote:
naki wrote:Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
Except 2011 when NZ won with 6th stringer Stephen Donald. :shock:
I don’t think you understand what “mere presence” means

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naki wrote:
Peaches wrote:
naki wrote:Carter's mere presence improves the title chances of any team he gets involved with.

Perpignan - no Top 14 titles for more than 50 years. Dan Carter shows up, gets injured, but they still win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again

Racing - no Top 14 titles for nearly 30 years. Dan Carter shows up, they win it. He leaves and they haven't been close again. They also never make a HEC final ever, then Carter shows up and they make two of them (with him again injured throughout the campaigns). He's left and they don't look likely to make one again any time soon

Kobelco - no titles for decades. Dan Carter shows up and they win one straight away, and never lose a game again with him in the side.

What I'm saying is - it's the Chiefs year. :nod:
Except 2011 when NZ won with 6th stringer Stephen Donald. :shock:
I don’t think you understand what “mere presence” means

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This is presence tbh

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That's that guy that lost a RWC final isn't it? What's his name again?
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blackblackblack wrote:That's that guy that lost a RWC final isn't it? What's his name again?
Yeah that's him, the one that petulantly refused to wear his match losing medal.
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Kiwias wrote:Tell me it is not true that Dan Carter is joining the Blues.
It's not true.
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blackblackblack wrote:That's that guy that lost a RWC final isn't it? What's his name again?
:lol: Mr Flappy
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blackblackblack wrote:That's that guy that lost a RWC final isn't it? What's his name again?
To be fair to Maro, at his age Carter had only managed to lose a RWC semi-final, having spent most of the tournament on the bench, then a quarter-final exit. Maro has some way to go yet :thumbup:
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Loyalty to any one sports team is pretty hard to justify, because the players are always changing, the team can move to another city. You're actually rooting for the clothes, when you get right down to it. You know what I mean? You are standing and cheering and yelling for your clothes to beat the clothes from another city. Fans will be so in love with a player, but if he goes to another team, they boo him. This is the same human being in a different shirt; they hate him now. Boo! Different shirt! Boo!
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Taranaki Snapper wrote:
Loyalty to any one sports team is pretty hard to justify, because the players are always changing, the team can move to another city. You're actually rooting for the clothes, when you get right down to it. You know what I mean? You are standing and cheering and yelling for your clothes to beat the clothes from another city. Fans will be so in love with a player, but if he goes to another team, they boo him. This is the same human being in a different shirt; they hate him now. Boo! Different shirt! Boo!
Don't defend naki like this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8-0TkikRrI

Bench cam behind the scenes at the Blues/Chiefs match on the weekend.
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Auckman wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8-0TkikRrI

Bench cam behind the scenes at the Blues/Chiefs match on the weekend.
Love the Airforce flyover at the start. You'd think it was a WWII Battle of Britain commemoration.

"Ah no, that's actually our current Airforce." :lol: :blush:
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:o :lol: The trainers. Yep, back to propeller days.
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Thought here was as good as anywhere, major bonus for the Blues. This kid is a quality player..
Lock Sam Darry is about as Canterbury as they come, but when he hits Super Rugby it will be in a Blues jersey – a New Zealand Schools player and under-20 triallist, he has signed for the Blues for three years.

Darry was former captain of Christ’s College, a member of the school’s winning Maadi Cup rowing team, and Canterbury Under-19 player of the year last year.

The 2m lock, who turned 20 this week, will continue to contract to the Canterbury provincial union, but an urge to step out of his comfort zone was a key driver to his decision to move north. “I’ve had a pretty sheltered time my whole life in Christchurch and felt it was time to learn more about myself and as a rugby player standing on my own in the real world,” said Darry.

“It was a tough decision. As a Canterbury boy it was a strong pull to stay, but I knew deep down that I really needed to become more self-reliant.” Darry said he was impressed with the Blues environment, their style of play and the feedback he got from coaches, players and administration.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sup ... -the-blues
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From what I've heard, that's a great signing for the Blues. Darry sounds like a real talent.

Can't really blame him knowing he's stuck behind Whitelock, Barrett, Dunshea, Strange, Romano, and potentially Grace in the current pecking order.
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mrbrownstone wrote:From what I've heard, that's a great signing for the Blues. Darry sounds like a real talent.

Can't really blame him knowing he's stuck behind Whitelock, Barrett, Dunshea, Strange, Romano, and potentially Grace in the current pecking order.
Shameless bragging.
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Fantastic signing. I'm always a big advocate for quality tight-five signings.
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Auckman wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8-0TkikRrI

Bench cam behind the scenes at the Blues/Chiefs match on the weekend.
Cool perspective on the game.

Tu'inukuafe is a big unit. Regular camera angles just don't show how solid he is. When he stands up at 3:12 to go onto the pitch though :shock:
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JPNZ wrote:Thought here was as good as anywhere, major bonus for the Blues. This kid is a quality player..
Lock Sam Darry is about as Canterbury as they come, but when he hits Super Rugby it will be in a Blues jersey – a New Zealand Schools player and under-20 triallist, he has signed for the Blues for three years.

Darry was former captain of Christ’s College, a member of the school’s winning Maadi Cup rowing team, and Canterbury Under-19 player of the year last year.

The 2m lock, who turned 20 this week, will continue to contract to the Canterbury provincial union, but an urge to step out of his comfort zone was a key driver to his decision to move north. “I’ve had a pretty sheltered time my whole life in Christchurch and felt it was time to learn more about myself and as a rugby player standing on my own in the real world,” said Darry.

“It was a tough decision. As a Canterbury boy it was a strong pull to stay, but I knew deep down that I really needed to become more self-reliant.” Darry said he was impressed with the Blues environment, their style of play and the feedback he got from coaches, players and administration.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sup ... -the-blues
That's massive. All the best to the young fella, let's hope he makes the grade as we are a little shy on up and coming 2m plus locks at the moment.

No doubt the Canes are as surprised at this development as the rest of us hoi polloi. :(
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