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I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?


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I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?


I think you need to check that fully. Quickly. For if what you say is true, well, it is possible that the knights templar will need to be informed.


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I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.


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bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

Give the Welsh scheduling committee a drink as well for a job well done.


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Now, lads, stop the nebolous envy.
Who's the nerd with the facts?


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?


I think you need to check that fully. Quickly. For if what you say is true, well, it is possible that the knights templar will need to be informed.
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Strangely, I am sitting in a pub, within 7 kilometres of a Templars Church.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:18 pm 
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Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

Give the Welsh scheduling committee a drink as well for a job well done.

Wait, you mean Fiji. They're too busy chasing the abs to play us!


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bessantj wrote:
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I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:20 pm 
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Trostan wrote:
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Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?


Yes is the short answer Tros :thumbup:


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Trostan wrote:
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Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?

Ireland have had a great three years beaten everyone in the top 10. Including the abs twice!!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:27 pm 
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Not quite the result I had hoped for against AUS but SA move up a spot. Wales at #1 :lol:

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Cape Town - The Springboks have moved past England into fourth spot on the official World Rugby rankings. This follows South Africa's 24-18 win over Argentina in Pretoria on Saturday and England's 13-6 defeat to Wales in Cardiff. The Welsh, who have won 15 of their last 16 Tests, have moved past the All Blacks into top spot for the first time. New Zealand beat Australia 36-0 in Auckland to retain the Bledisloe Cup but it was not enough for them to relinquish top spot for the first time since November 2009.

Elsewhere, France moved past Scotland into seventh spot after beating them 27-10 in Paris.
Top 20 in the latest World Rugby rankings:
1. Wales 89.43
2. New Zealand 89.40
3. Ireland 88.69
4. South Africa 86.83
5. England 86.79
6. Australia 84.05
7. France 80.58
8. Scotland 79.01
9. Japan 77.21
10. Fiji 76.98


SA short changed there saf, clearly the best team in the world right now particularly when you take into account the handicaps Rassie has to deal with on a daily basis (player drain, outside interference etc) :thumbup:


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Those wins dragged you English lackeys closer to no 1 so you could then fall over the line like a drunk who has miraculously made it to his shed door


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Those wins dragged you English lackeys closer to no 1 so you could then fall over the line like a drunk who has miraculously made it to his shed door


Australia's. :thumbup:


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bessantj wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

Give the Welsh scheduling committee a drink as well for a job well done.

Wait, you mean Fiji. They're too busy chasing the abs to play us!

No, I mean Wales. You've managed to avoid the AB's in what, the last 15 tests?


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bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
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Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?

Ireland have had a great three years beaten everyone in the top 10. Including the abs twice!!

Lost quite a few too. Otherwise you'd think they'd probably be number one in the rankings.


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bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?

Ireland have had a great three years beaten everyone in the top 10. Including the abs twice!!

Lost quite a few too. Otherwise you'd think they'd probably be number one in the rankings.


Not sure about the third year but over two years Ireland have played 29, won 24 lost 5.


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bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

OK. Are Ireland the only team to have beaten 8 out of the 9 teams in the top ten, because other wimpy teams refuse to challenge Fiji and their superb haka?

Ireland have had a great three years beaten everyone in the top 10. Including the abs twice!!

Lost quite a few too. Otherwise you'd think they'd probably be number one in the rankings.


If they beat England in Twickers next weekend, they will.


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And deservedly so.


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saffer13 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
Trostan wrote:
I havent checked this fully, (statistically challenged), but are Ireland the only team to have beaten all of the other 9 teams in the top ten in the last 3 years?

Shocking that the all blacks have been dodging Fiji.

Give the Welsh scheduling committee a drink as well for a job well done.

Wait, you mean Fiji. They're too busy chasing the abs to play us!

No, I mean Wales. You've managed to avoid the AB's in what, the last 15 tests?


That would be correct.

We last played NZ in:
Nov-14
Jun-16
Jun-16
Jun-16
Nov-17

However, we have the following fixtures against NZ on:
Nov-19
July-20
July-20


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Ah ok, so it will be 0-3 coming up then.


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LandOTurk wrote:

That would be correct.

We last played NZ in:
Nov-14
Jun-16
Jun-16
Jun-16
Nov-17

However, we have the following fixtures against NZ on:
Nov-19
July-20
July-20


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Ah ok, so it will be 0-3 coming up then.


If we lose them all, yes, that will be 0-3.


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Cape Town - Ireland will jump to the top of the World Rugby rankings if they beat England in their Rugby World Cup warm-up clash at Twickenham on Saturday.

A win - by any margin - would see the Irish jump from third to first, with Wales dropping to second and New Zealand to third.
The Welsh became the world's No 1 team for the first time on Monday following their 13-6 win over England in Cardiff last weekend.

Meanwhile, a win for England - again by any margin - would see them leap-frog South Africa into fourth spot. The Springboks moved above England after their 24-18 win over Argentina in Pretoria at the weekend.


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Cape Town - Ireland will jump to the top of the World Rugby rankings if they beat England in their Rugby World Cup warm-up clash at Twickenham on Saturday.

A win - by any margin - would see the Irish jump from third to first, with Wales dropping to second and New Zealand to third.
The Welsh became the world's No 1 team for the first time on Monday following their 13-6 win over England in Cardiff last weekend.

Meanwhile, a win for England - again by any margin - would see them leap-frog South Africa into fourth spot. The Springboks moved above England after their 24-18 win over Argentina in Pretoria at the weekend.


Indeed, quoted quite a few time son the bored the past few days. It will be quite amusing to have the #1 spot flip a few times going into Japan.


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LandOTurk wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
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Cape Town - Ireland will jump to the top of the World Rugby rankings if they beat England in their Rugby World Cup warm-up clash at Twickenham on Saturday.

A win - by any margin - would see the Irish jump from third to first, with Wales dropping to second and New Zealand to third.
The Welsh became the world's No 1 team for the first time on Monday following their 13-6 win over England in Cardiff last weekend.

Meanwhile, a win for England - again by any margin - would see them leap-frog South Africa into fourth spot. The Springboks moved above England after their 24-18 win over Argentina in Pretoria at the weekend.


Indeed, quoted quite a few time son the bored the past few days. It will be quite amusing to have the #1 spot flip a few times going into Japan.

Sorry, not following a number of threads on the same topic so I'll just stick to this one thread then. :thumbup:


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Anyone have the latest rankings?


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1 England 92.29
2 South Africa 90.71
3 New Zealand 89.92
4 Wales 87.21
5 Ireland 84.45


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1 England 92.29
2 South Africa 90.71
3 New Zealand 89.92
4 Wales 87.21
5 Ireland 84.45

:thumbup:


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Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0


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Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0

Seemed pretty happy with it these last 8 years or so. Why not now? :twisted:


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Fat Old Git wrote:
Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0

Seemed pretty happy with it these last 8 years or so. Why not now? :twisted:


He's arguing for them :roll:


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Dark wrote:
1 England 92.29
2 South Africa 90.71
3 New Zealand 89.92
4 Wales 87.21
5 Ireland 84.45


Does hat mean if Wales was to upset NZ (unlikely as that may seem), NZ will fall to 4th for the first time ever?


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Fat Old Git wrote:
Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0


I'm not sure it's fair that a team which say has the 6 Nations in the bag or the Rugby Championship should lose out on the option of points because no one challenged their standard compared with say a team who has lost a game and has to take it to the last weekend. It's effectively offering the team with the worse record more points.

However the idea that championship games should be worth more is good. Though the RC has more games than the 6Ns so it might be unfair. Perhaps a set bonus points on position. Include the Pacific Championship and lower European tiers for that.


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Fat Old Git wrote:
Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0

Seemed pretty happy with it these last 8 years or so. Why not now? :twisted:


He's arguing for them :roll:

Yeah. Of course :roll:


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Dark wrote:
1 England 92.29
2 South Africa 90.71
3 New Zealand 89.92
4 Wales 87.21
5 Ireland 84.45


Does hat mean if Wales was to upset NZ (unlikely as that may seem), NZ will fall to 4th for the first time ever?


None of the calculators I have seen agree with dark

Edit: I have sent this in two places

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NZL
92.47
2
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ENG
89.74
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WAL
89.37
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RSA
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Fat Old Git wrote:
Got to love those world cup double points.

Maybe we should have a sliding scale for all games.

6N or RC decider. X1.5

Dead rubbers x 0.

End of year tour one offs 1.0

Seemed pretty happy with it these last 8 years or so. Why not now? :twisted:


He's arguing for them :roll:

Yeah. Of course :roll:


Guy's just winding you up.

I've always thought they were silly even when we benefited from them.

What I've been happy about for the last 8 years is that we were World Champions. I didn't need a distortion of the ranking system as some kind of bonus.

I was also quite happy that we pretty much kept the number one ranking post thise world cups by continuing to win most of games, and our ranking didn't quickly drop away as it has for other champions.


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https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116966578/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-slip-to-no-3-in-world-rankings-after-semifinal-shocker


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Seems about right.

A safa loss and kiwi win may move them up to 2... but therein about the right spot.

Aus down is really bad....


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