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 Post subject: Re: Stormers SR 2020
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:05 am 
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So has Dobson got a pass mark....I see a lot of him on social media....


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Wasn't it just recently that chilli quoted a post in agreement of the eggman where he was saying how he has done so well staying away from Stormers threads? Sards and Sards 2.0 can't contain themselves. So far only sards has made the ignore list, sards 2.0 is cutting it close now.


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Dude...its payback for the bollox we have had to endure


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Wasn't it just recently that chilli quoted a post in agreement of the eggman where he was saying how he has done so well staying away from Stormers threads? Sards and Sards 2.0 can't contain themselves. So far only sards has made the ignore list, sards 2.0 is cutting it close now.

Yank, I will talk to Sards....................Sards stop being a poes!


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Chilli wrote:
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Wasn't it just recently that chilli quoted a post in agreement of the eggman where he was saying how he has done so well staying away from Stormers threads? Sards and Sards 2.0 can't contain themselves. So far only sards has made the ignore list, sards 2.0 is cutting it close now.

Yank, I will talk to Sards....................Sards stop being a poes!

Sorry man...I am done


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Wasn't it just recently that chilli quoted a post in agreement of the eggman where he was saying how he has done so well staying away from Stormers threads? Sards and Sards 2.0 can't contain themselves. So far only sards has made the ignore list, sards 2.0 is cutting it close now.

Yank, I will talk to Sards....................Sards stop being a poes!

Sorry man...I am done

Done being a poes? :shock:


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Things are going to go a lot worse on here now that there's no rugby. :(


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Things are going to go a lot worse on here now that there's no rugby. :(

Now is the time for unity!


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You mean internal shit stirring.


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You mean internal shit stirring.


:lol:

Dude...I am not the type to kick a dog when its down...


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Staying in the Cape | Jantjies commits to WP Rugby
18:03 24/03/2020
Springbok and Stormers scrumhalf Herschel Jantjies has signed a two-year contract extension with Western Province Rugby.

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According to the Stormers' official website, this extension means that Jantjies will remain with the Stormers until at least the end of the 2022 season.

A product of Kylemore in the Western Cape, Jantjies represented Western Province from U16 level through the age-groups, before making his senior provincial debut in 2017.


He made his Stormers debut at the beginning of the 2019 season and national honours soon followed as the dynamic scrumhalf enjoyed an incredible break-out year which saw him make a try-scoring international debut and culminated with him being the last player to touch the ball in the World Cup final in Yokohama as the Springboks lifted the Webb Ellis Cup for the third time.

The two-year contract extension means that Jantjies will remain with Western Province Rugby beyond the British and Irish Lions tour in 2021 and underlines his commitment to the team he grew up supporting.

Stormers head coach John Dobson said that having a player of Jantjies’ calibre confirmed as part of the squad for the next two years is a significant boost.

“Herschel is undoubtedly one of the best success stories at Western Province Rugby in the recent past. Apart from his considerable skill and commitment, he is exactly the type of character that we want to keep in our environment.

“He is a local lad who has come through our junior system and made unbelievable progress in the last year to reach his current position as one of the best scrumhalves in the world.

“To have the likes of Herschel on our books for the next two years is a massive boost, at a time when we can all use some good news.

“It is also important for us to acknowledge the contributions made by Western Province Rugby Football Union president Zelt Marais and Exco member Peter Jooste in helping to make this signing possible,” he said.

Jantjies said that he is looking forward to reaching even greater heights with the Stormers and Western Province Rugby in the coming years.

“Growing up it was always a dream of mine to play for this team and I am very happy that I will be able to continue living that dream.

“I believe that with the players and coaches that we have here, we can all achieve great things together,” he said.


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 Post subject: Re: Stormers SR 2020
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:20 am 
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Goodbye Newlands
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'Fizzling' Newlands farewell a concern for Stormers
The stadium, which boasts a stunning 130-year history, is in its final season before a likely demolition and an almost certain move to Cape Town Stadium for Western Province and the Stormers.

Super Rugby 2020 represented one final opportunity for the Stormers and Cape Town to say goodbye to the stadium coach John Dobson calls the "great old lady of South African rugby."


Before the start of the season, Dobson and the Stormers were using Newlands as their primary motivation. They wanted to go the distance in Super Rugby to pay their respects to the people that have occupied the Newlands seats for decades.

"There is going to be a lot of emotion for them, but it has to work in our favour," Dobson said at the time.

"We absolutely love Newlands. There is only one real way to say farewell."

Now, after just seven rounds of fixtures, Super Rugby 2020 could be done and dusted as the coronavirus crisis leaves the sporting world in limbo.

Dobson and his players remain hopeful that they will get back on the park - Super Rugby 2020 would likely start from scratch in a shortened format if that was the case - but Newlands standing empty in its final season is causing the franchise some concern.

"It is a source of anxiety for us," Dobson acknowledged on Wednesday.

"With the Currie Cup format as it was published, we play the Sharks, Griquas and Cheetahs at home in that Currie Cup format. It's not a great way to say goodbye to Newlands.

"The Newlands fizzle is a source of concern."

If Super Rugby is completely scrapped, then the 2020 edition of the Currie Cup could be the next domestic rugby South Africans have.

One positive spin-off could potentially be the public, who would have been starved of sport for months, attending matches again.

"If we did get back on the field in a month or two, I would think there would have to be something around Super Rugby just because of the rights and sponsors. After that I think you could play a brilliant Currie Cup," Dobson said.

"I think the most important thing for rugby is to reset and use this time to put people back in the stadium.

"Currie Cup, if the Springboks are playing and given the absence of rugby, could work.

"I know SA Rugby have task teams and it's being worked on, but I think it's important for the national psyche once there is some kind of normality that, if you can, get guys in closed stadiums who have isolated before in a safe environment.

"It would be great for the people to have something to look forward to on a Saturday."


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 Post subject: Re: Stormers SR 2020
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:13 am 
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"With the Currie Cup format as it was published, we play the Sharks, Griquas and Cheetahs at home in that Currie Cup format. It's not a great way to say goodbye to Newlands.


And they wonder why the WP / Stomps are accused of being arrogant?
Firstly, they are wetting their pants because of their mismanagement they have to sell off their stadium to cover their debts. They have respect for the a 100 odd year old stadium, that smells of 100 years of old piss, but have no respect for the Currie Cup competition.
Then they diss the teams that they will play against in the Currie Cup at the filthy piss reeking Newlands. Obviously the Sharks, Griquas and and Cheetahs are not good enough opposition for the fvcking greatest rugby team in the universe.

How fvcking arrogant and disrespectful can they be? Fvck them !!!!!!!! Bunch of cvnts!

All this being nice to everyone over lockdown has really got to me :nod:


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They should considering turning it into a hospital for the duration of the virus.

It's a good way of giving back to the local community they have so long tortured by playing such ugly rugby.


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 Post subject: Re: Stormers SR 2020
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They should considering turning it into a hospital for the duration of the virus.

It's a good way of giving back to the local community they have so long tortured by playing such ugly rugby.

It would take to long to clean it, the patients would be suffering enough. You can't torture them by exposing them to that stench. x(


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 Post subject: Re: Stormers SR 2020
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Should Super Rugby resume, the Stormers are likely to field a new centre combination.

Coach John Dobson said earlier this week he would like to test the midfield combination of Rikus Pretorius and Dan du Plessis.

Before the tournament was halted due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Stormers started all six their games with Welshman Jamie Roberts and Ruhan Nel in the midfield.

"Rikus has only played in two matches this year for 20 minutes each and it's unfair to judge him when we've had to overcome a deficit," Dobson told Netwerk24.

The coach added that he was excited about the potential of Du Plessis, who is the son of former Western Province and Springbok utility back Michael du Plessis.

"We all know Dan. If he can stay fit, then he'll become a Springbok. I've got no doubt that he's one of South Africa's best centres. We have to give him a chance."

The 25-year-old Du Plessis' career has been plagued by injuries and Dobson admitted that he was fearing more injury woes for the player.

"His injuries are so bad that I get nervous simply watching him play," Dobson stressed, before adding: "Dan is physical, skilful and his ball distribution is very good. He is a special player."

Du Plessis would likely be trialled at outside centre, with former Junior Springboks star Pretorius on his inside.

The 21-year-old Pretorius, who was schooled at Grey College in Bloemfontein, is a physically imposing player, standing 1.92m and weighing over 100kgs.


Roberts, meanwhile, has returned to Wales amidst the worldwide crisis but he could return to the Stormers if the tournament resumes.

The Stormers were seventh on the overall standings when Super Rugby was halted, having won four out of six games.

- Compiled by Herman Mostert


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All this being nice to everyone over lockdown has really got to me :nod:

To much kak doeke skoonmaak? :lol: :lol:


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Chilli wrote:
All this being nice to everyone over lockdown has really got to me :nod:

To much kak doeke skoonmaak? :lol: :lol:

Ek probeer maar my beste Oom.


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Been saying for ages now that Dan duP and Rikus need to be the midfield combo.


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If this doesn't win the bored today then i'm not sure we love the same game...

https://youtu.be/bk6YzRp8fsY

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PSdT off to France. No way WP can counter R75 Mil in three years.


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PSdT off to France. No way WP can counter R75 Mil in three years.

No one can blame him. Will set him up for life and make him the best paid rugby player in the world.

His career really took of after coming back to WP from the saarks. Best player in the world getting the most money, seems fair :thumbup:


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OomPB wrote:
PSdT off to France. No way WP can counter R75 Mil in three years.

No one can blame him. Will set him up for life and make him the best paid rugby player in the world.

His career really took of after coming back to WP from the saarks. Best player in the world getting the most money, seems fair :thumbup:

Pollard also a WP seun, have that honour
Rugby's rich list (heading into 2020-21 season):

1 = Handre Pollard (South Africa/Montpellier)
£1 million (€1.1 million/R23.5 million)

1 = Charles Piutau (New Zealand/Bristol Bears)
£1 million (NZ$2 million)

3. Maro Itoje (England/Saracens)
£875 000

4. Owen Farrell (England/Saracens)
£750 000

5. Steven Luatua (New Zealand/Bristol Bears)
£650 000

6. Dan Biggar (Wales/Northampton Saints)
£600 000

7 = Nicolas Sanchez (Argentina/Stade Français)
£580 000

7 = Morgan Parra (France/Clermont)
£580 000

9. Michael Hooper (Australia/Waratahs)
£572 000


10 = Stuart Hogg (Scotland/Exeter Chiefs)
£550 000

10 = Manu Tuilagi (England/Leicester Tigers)
£550 000

12. Johnny Sexton (Ireland/Leinster)
£536 000

13. Finn Russell (Scotland/Racing 92)
£535 000

14. Beauden Barrett (New Zealand/Blues)
£520 000

15. Faf de Klerk (South Africa/Sale Sharks)
£500 000 (R11.8 million)


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OomPB wrote:
handyman wrote:
OomPB wrote:
PSdT off to France. No way WP can counter R75 Mil in three years.

No one can blame him. Will set him up for life and make him the best paid rugby player in the world.

His career really took of after coming back to WP from the saarks. Best player in the world getting the most money, seems fair :thumbup:

Pollard also a WP seun, have that honour
Rugby's rich list (heading into 2020-21 season):

1 = Handre Pollard (South Africa/Montpellier)
£1 million (€1.1 million/R23.5 million)


Pollard het al op skool geskuif agter die geld aan :thumbdown:


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He will hardly be alone among South Africa’s players in lamenting rugby’s shutdown at a time when the 2020 season should be gathering increasing momentum.

But spare a special thought, maybe, for Juarno "Trokkie" Augustus, the wrecking-ball No 8 from the Stormers, who had just played a welcome Super Rugby blinder for the Capetonians despite their 24-14 derby defeat to the Sharks at Kings Park on March 14 ... after which the coronavirus crisis struck global sport with a vengeance.

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Respective, major arm and ankle injuries had wreaked havoc in other ways, remember, with his earliest years in the senior first-class game after the now 22-year-old’s spectacular burst to prominence as the individual star - duly given the official player-of-the-tournament mantle, too - of the 2017 World Rugby U20 Championship in Georgia.

The Baby Boks were nosed out 24-22 by England in a semi-final that year, but went on to claim the bronze medal by comfortably seeing off France 37-15 in the playoff game.

Augustus was consistently to the fore with his combination of dynamism and aggression as a ball-carrier, which also earned him a tourney-leading seven tries in a SA outfit that included other players who have prospered at Super Rugby level subsequently like Curwin Bosch, Ruben van Heerden, Carlu Sadie, Wandisile Simelani and Manie Libbok.

Stormers head coach John Dobson had adopted a sensible, “slow burn” policy with Augustus - helped by having a decent array of squad loose forwards, at least to begin with - at the outset of 2020, in the quest to help his 115kg human brick claw back much lost ground.

The man from the relatively unfashionable rugby environs of Alexander Bay didn’t feature in the season-opening 27-0 thrashing of the Hurricanes at Newlands in the heat of late summer, but then made it onto the bench for the follow-up, 13-0 defeat of compatriots the Bulls.

Augustus was then filtered back into the starting line-up for the next assignments against the Lions, Jaguares and Blues and understandably took some time to find his renowned, maximum mojo.

But considering the dormancy of the competition for what is rapidly approaching two months since, both the player and his coaches and his army of admirers in Cape Town would have been aggrieved in certain ways, really, by his return to stampeding best in the Shark Tank.

His showing had “I’m back” written all over it ... though Augustus might not have fully anticipated at the time that it would also cruelly signal the curtailment, all over again, of his rugby aspirations.
In short, he is almost back in a rehab-style mode, considering the restriction of sportspeople and society in general to largely home-based exercise due to the needs of lockdown at a time when he is crying out for regular, rugged contact play again.

On that day in Durban, Augustus slightly eclipsed the hitherto red-hot - but possibly tiring, after a lengthy sequence of matches without a bye - Sharks No 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, which served further notice of just how assertive he had been against the old coastal enemy.

Notshe and Augustus are poles apart in playing style, with the former much more renowned for his explosive pace, stepping and off-loading finesse, while the latter is more of a Duane Vermeulen-type, “route one” physical beast - while under-rated at peril for the skills side to his own repertoire.

But in their own ways, they offer a potentially bright future in the No 8 role for the Springboks, the world champions who may see little or nothing more of the established iron-man Vermeulen, now almost 34, after the scheduled British and Irish Lions tour of our shores next year.

Augustus is more of a like-for-like factor for the revered 54-cap incumbent, whereas Notshe more closely fits the style of someone like Warren Whiteley, the more subtle former Lions captain and sometimes Test player now sadly pushed into almost certain, slightly premature retirement due to injuries.


The Sharks tearaway will have slightly more enjoyed - if that is the right word to use - the hiatus from rugby after his herculean efforts in helping his franchise to the top of the table before the cut, even if he will also be itching now to get back into action as the indefinite suspension drags on.

But Augustus? Expect that he would have been rather less charmed, considering that he had just seemed to have conquered the demons keeping him off the park for lengthy tracts when the biggest one of all this year paid its burdensome visit to the world ...

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I know that this article is about Trokkie, but it is important to note that, as per this article, the Sharks have already burnt Notshe out by overplaying him.


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https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/stormers-the-unwanted-truck-stop-for-trokkie-20200505

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He will hardly be alone among South Africa’s players in lamenting rugby’s shutdown at a time when the 2020 season should be gathering increasing momentum.

But spare a special thought, maybe, for Juarno "Trokkie" Augustus, the wrecking-ball No 8 from the Stormers, who had just played a welcome Super Rugby blinder for the Capetonians despite their 24-14 derby defeat to the Sharks at Kings Park on March 14 ... after which the coronavirus crisis struck global sport with a vengeance.

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Respective, major arm and ankle injuries had wreaked havoc in other ways, remember, with his earliest years in the senior first-class game after the now 22-year-old’s spectacular burst to prominence as the individual star - duly given the official player-of-the-tournament mantle, too - of the 2017 World Rugby U20 Championship in Georgia.

The Baby Boks were nosed out 24-22 by England in a semi-final that year, but went on to claim the bronze medal by comfortably seeing off France 37-15 in the playoff game.

Augustus was consistently to the fore with his combination of dynamism and aggression as a ball-carrier, which also earned him a tourney-leading seven tries in a SA outfit that included other players who have prospered at Super Rugby level subsequently like Curwin Bosch, Ruben van Heerden, Carlu Sadie, Wandisile Simelani and Manie Libbok.

Stormers head coach John Dobson had adopted a sensible, “slow burn” policy with Augustus - helped by having a decent array of squad loose forwards, at least to begin with - at the outset of 2020, in the quest to help his 115kg human brick claw back much lost ground.

The man from the relatively unfashionable rugby environs of Alexander Bay didn’t feature in the season-opening 27-0 thrashing of the Hurricanes at Newlands in the heat of late summer, but then made it onto the bench for the follow-up, 13-0 defeat of compatriots the Bulls.

Augustus was then filtered back into the starting line-up for the next assignments against the Lions, Jaguares and Blues and understandably took some time to find his renowned, maximum mojo.

But considering the dormancy of the competition for what is rapidly approaching two months since, both the player and his coaches and his army of admirers in Cape Town would have been aggrieved in certain ways, really, by his return to stampeding best in the Shark Tank.

His showing had “I’m back” written all over it ... though Augustus might not have fully anticipated at the time that it would also cruelly signal the curtailment, all over again, of his rugby aspirations.
In short, he is almost back in a rehab-style mode, considering the restriction of sportspeople and society in general to largely home-based exercise due to the needs of lockdown at a time when he is crying out for regular, rugged contact play again.

On that day in Durban, Augustus slightly eclipsed the hitherto red-hot - but possibly tiring, after a lengthy sequence of matches without a bye - Sharks No 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, which served further notice of just how assertive he had been against the old coastal enemy.

Notshe and Augustus are poles apart in playing style, with the former much more renowned for his explosive pace, stepping and off-loading finesse, while the latter is more of a Duane Vermeulen-type, “route one” physical beast - while under-rated at peril for the skills side to his own repertoire.

But in their own ways, they offer a potentially bright future in the No 8 role for the Springboks, the world champions who may see little or nothing more of the established iron-man Vermeulen, now almost 34, after the scheduled British and Irish Lions tour of our shores next year.

Augustus is more of a like-for-like factor for the revered 54-cap incumbent, whereas Notshe more closely fits the style of someone like Warren Whiteley, the more subtle former Lions captain and sometimes Test player now sadly pushed into almost certain, slightly premature retirement due to injuries.


The Sharks tearaway will have slightly more enjoyed - if that is the right word to use - the hiatus from rugby after his herculean efforts in helping his franchise to the top of the table before the cut, even if he will also be itching now to get back into action as the indefinite suspension drags on.

But Augustus? Expect that he would have been rather less charmed, considering that he had just seemed to have conquered the demons keeping him off the park for lengthy tracts when the biggest one of all this year paid its burdensome visit to the world ...

*Follow our chief writer on Twitter: @RobHouwing


I know that this article is about Trokkie, but it is important to note that, as per this article, the Sharks have already burnt Notshe out by overplaying him.

Damn...they had 1 more game before their break which had the Sharks as the most overplayed side in the tournament which resulted in lots of injuries....dont be a cake Chilli...you are only overplayed if you are a zombie playing for the Stormers who clocked far too many injuries trying to get their tackles stats up to impress Rassie...in comparison the Sharks played an expansive style and fielded a consistent side...whilst being the most overplayed side in the tournament


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Kade Wolhuter back to WP

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The Stormers are expected to lose the services of flyhalf Jean-Luc du Plessis after the flyhalf opted out of his contract with the union.

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Thursday represented a 'transfer deadline day' for South Africa's Super Rugby franchises with it being the last of a 21-day window for players to exit their current contracts in the face of more lucrative offers from elsewhere.

This window was granted as part of SA Rugby's cost-cutting efforts in the struggle against the global coronavirus crisis, and it has made for a nervous few hours for the country's franchise coaches and the union administrators.

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Late on Thursday, Sport24 gathered that Du Plessis had agreed to join a club in Japan.
Earlier on Thursday, it was reported that Stormers loose forward Cobus Wiese was on his way to Sale Sharks in England.

Du Plessis, meanwhile, has had a torrid time at the Stormers in recent seasons with injuries threatening his career on more than one occasion.


Wiese is a big big loss.


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He struggled with injuries this year. We have to many Wiese type (lock/flanker) of players. Not a big loss.

If it was PSdT.


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He struggled with injuries this year. We have to many Wiese type (lock/flanker) of players. Not a big loss.

If it was PSdT.

He is not PSDT, but he is better than the rest that the WP has.


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Up until Thursday night, Western Province were confident that 2019 World Rugby Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit would stay at the union.

Now, that seems far from certain.

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Rumours started circling late on Thursday night that Du Toit was considering exercising the option to exit his current contract with the union in line with the 21-day window that ended at midnight that night.

On Friday, as franchises around the country confirmed who they had lost, the Stormers were mum and could not confirm that Du Toit was still a Stormer.

"We will make an announcement as soon as we are able. We're not going to confirm, deny or comment on anything until then," was the word from media liaison Mike de Vries.

It was initially reported that Du Toit had received a mega offer from French club Montpellier, but the club has since distanced itself from that offer by saying that it has had no contact with Du Toit.

Then, on Friday night, Netwerk24 reported that Du Toit had in fact handed in a request to leave the franchise on Thursday night - hours before the end of the contract window deadline.

Sport24 has since had that development confirmed, and it is understood that despite triggering his exit clause, Du Toit remains keen on staying at Newlands.

His current contract with the union, because he exercised his option to exit, no longer stands, but if he can have a few items amended in the form of a new contract, then he is willing to stay.

Also on Friday, speaking to the Daily Maverick, Du Toit's agent Gerrie Swart denied that his client was moving.

"Pieter-Steph is staying at Western Province; there is just some paperwork to finalise and there may be one or two sticking points there," Swart said.

The sudden interest from overseas clubs in South African players stemmed from a 21-day window that was agreed upon by the SA Rugby Industry, MyPlayers and the South African Rugby Employers' Organisation (Sareo) last month in which all professional players were given three weeks - until 14 May - to get out of their current contracts with their respective unions and sign on the dotted line with those big-spending UK, France and Japanese clubs in particular.


Du Toit is understood to have had clubs from Japan and France express interest.

The Stormers are expected to make an official announcement later on Saturday.

- Compiled by Lloyd Burnard




And now?


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WP Rugby and by extension the Stormers are, I believe, the biggest losers in many respects from the nail-biting "transfer window" over South African professional rugby players that ended at midnight on Thursday ... even if it is really just the continuation of a scarily well-developed trend at Newlands.

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While some termination-of-service aftershocks remained possible countrywide into to the weekend, two traditionally fiercest major franchise rivals - the Sharks and Bulls - appeared to come through the bruising, demoralising process largely unscathed.

At Loftus, in fact, the primary feature was more of a staffing-up one, swelling a process that began with Jake White's high-profile installation as director of rugby in late March.

While utility back Johnny Kotze has left Pretoria, inbound personnel include heavyweight Springbok No 8 Duane Vermeulen, who had last represented the Bulls in Super Rugby 2019, and other internationals in veteran fullback Gio Aplon, broad-shouldered tighthead prop Marcel van der Merwe and (finally confirmed on Friday) dynamic loose forward Arno Botha.

The 28-year-old Botha is an old Loftus favourite, who had burst onto the Test scene with aplomb in 2013 before being plagued by injuries; he seems to have successfully wrestled off that demon more recently.

At the time of writing, they were also strongly linked with two Cheetahs second-rowers, Sintu Manjezi and Walt Steenkamp, as well as seeking a return of brawny front lock and one-cap Bok Jason Jenkins.

The Bulls' resurgent ambition and strengthening drive ties in so clearly with the gradual righting of their ship financially, thanks in no small measure to the investment into their cause late last year of high-profile tycoons Johann Rupert and Patrice Motsepe.

Meanwhile the Sharks sidestepped any significant derailing of their striking 2020 on-field progress - top of the overall Super Rugby table before the coronavirus pandemic so cruelly intruded - to leave enough optimism at Kings Park and environs that their revival quest is for real, and sustainable.

It appeared on Friday that the only sacrifices from their starting team, for example, that began the victorious last match - a derby against the Stormers on 14 March - are blindside flank and sometimes lock Tyler Paul (to the Japanese fold) and muscular midfielder Andre Esterhuizen, an expensive, already-known purchase by Harlequins.

That still gives head coach Sean Everitt the comfort of knowing that he retains, at least for the short to medium term, the overwhelmingly nucleus of the figures who have led the hungry 2020 charge - and snapping up Manie Libbok from the Bulls, a player possibly miffed at not getting a fair shake in Pretoria, is a smart bit of business for depth-building purposes.

"I think it's the fruit of our system and the way we treat players; if the players were not happy they would have left," Sharks CEO Eduard Coetzee had told Sport24 colleague Lloyd Burnard.

The Motsepe/Rupert millions in Pretoria, the harmony between dressing room and administration in Durban ... can you spot the key characteristics widely suspected to be missing from the Newlands set-up?

Little wonder, then, that John Dobson, in his maiden season as chief mastermind of the Stormers, would have found his usually glass-half-full, quirky persona stretched more than a bit toward the back end of this eventful week - one that provided some sense of clarity, if that is even the right word, on South African rugby's home-resources future in devastatingly bleak economic times.

Already vulnerable to an accelerating extent because of the superior pulling power of currencies north of the equator, trying to keep players SA-based only became more of an uphill task for our franchises, given the knowledge that pay cuts of up to 43 percent until year's end are possible due to the Covid-19 crisis and its blanking-out of major rugby for significant periods.

While players and coaches at Newlands have already tended to bite the bullet as best they could, the boardroom shenanigans of the last few years - including the legally burdensome, lingering Aerios dispute, the financial woe to the point of serious angst at various times over salary payments, Remgro's stake-holding pull-out, the climate of fear, paranoia and secrecy in the admin offices - have only aggravated, and profoundly so, an already challenging climate.

Backdrop issues are highly likely to have been influential in a pattern of outbound player movement from WP Rugby that has been like that irksome, dripping tap that keeps you awake in the wee hours.

"This should be one of the greatest places in the world to play rugby," a past player lamented to me this week, almost certainly echoing the view of others. "But the culture here has become so bad ... officials have destroyed what was once a province that other players wished to flock to."

Not everything happened at the last minute, in Stormers terms, when it came to the transfer tension of Thursday, and into Friday.

Theirs was more of a build-up of disconcerting news, as it had already become known beforehand that at least two stalwart Springbok players - fullback/wing Dillyn Leyds and strapping tighthead Wilco Louw (still well short of a prop's customary prime, at 25) - would leave.

But then followed the apparent confirmation (at least from the UK end) on Thursday that flank-cum-lock Cobus Wiese, another forward with his best years potentially ahead as he is just short of 23, is England-bound.

His is an especially worrying development for Stormers/WP enthusiasts as it is increasingly being pointed out in the rugby world that versatile players will be worth additional weight in gold in a toughening marketplace.

By early Friday, the shrinking Capetonian stock of proven resources at the key backline berths of fullback and flyhalf only worsened as Jean-Luc du Plessis, an experienced No 10 and son of legendary former "Pickard era" WP star Carel, seemingly chose to shift to Japan's Top League.

Though not confirmed at the time this was penned, his goodbye would be terribly damaging, leaving Dobson in a position where three known Super Rugby-level pivots on the books in 2019 (Du Plessis, Damian Willemse and the now Suntory Sungoliath-based Josh Stander) suddenly became one.

Bear in mind also that among their age-group players to leave for other climes in the off-season was Jordan Chait, the former Maties playmaker in the Varsity Cup now with the Sharks.

For the increasingly little it is worth these days, the Stormers will still be able to put together a useful enough starting XV on paper, assuming that all major resources are available.

But strong "squad systems" are absolutely essential in this era of high injury rates and stiff workload ... and it here that Dobson's staffing frankly looks more and more threadbare, to the point that he may do well to keep the franchise simply floating respectably near the surface rather than drowning, which was roughly the hallmark in Robbie Fleck’s prior era as head coach, too.

For two seasons not too long ago, between 2015 and 2016, the Stormers boasted a trio of enviable options in the critical, energy-sapping scrum berth of tighthead prop: Frans Malherbe, Vincent Koch and Louw.

Now, in stark contrast, they are down to only Bok stalwart and loyal Newlands servant (since 2011) in Malherbe ... and there would be drama if he were to go down injured for any protracted period as they possess, in Louw's wake, no proven other anchor-man at the Super Rugby tier of play.

It is extremely difficult to create a winning, consistently trophy-seeking culture with depth being eroded almost ceaselessly, rather than mushrooming.

As this was penned, World Rugby Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit remained under Newlands terms, it appeared, although the situation was volatile as I checked in with sources on the critical matter: if WP Rugby have managed to hold onto the unassuming, highly professional and committed blond bomber, then unreserved kudos to them on that score.

Below is a summary - and it is not even all-embracing, omitting a few more peripheral names - of the departures the Stormers have had to deal with since 2016.

It is widespread enough, and splashed with some enormously pedigreed names, to suggest that pure economics cannot be cited as the reason alone for the defections.

There is much to answer for in the corridors of WP Rugby power.

Don't expect swift illumination on that score: public relations all too often seems pretty low on their list of priorities ...

Prominent Stormers/WP players now known to have left since 2019 season, including latest wave: Craig Barry, Damian de Allende, Jean-Luc du Plessis, JJ Engelbrecht, Eben Etzebeth, Corne Fourie, Dan Kriel, Dillyn Leyds, Wilco Louw, SP Marais, Sikhumbuzo Notshe, Josh Stander, Jano Vermaak, EW Viljoen, Cobus Wiese, Carlu Sadie.

Players who had left after the 2018 season: Nizaam Carr, Jan de Klerk, Dewaldt Duvenage, JC Janse van Rensburg, Raymond Rhule.


Players who had left after the 2017 season: Bjorn Basson, Kurt Coleman, Juan de Jongh, Robert du Preez, Rynhardt Elstadt, Huw Jones, Oli Kebble, Cheslin Kolbe, Frans van Wyk.

Players who had left after the 2016 season: Nic Groom, Jean Kleyn, Vincent Koch, Johnny Kotze, Louis Schreuder, Jaco Taute.


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Up until Thursday night, Western Province were confident that 2019 World Rugby Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit would stay at the union.

Now, that seems far from certain.

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Rumours started circling late on Thursday night that Du Toit was considering exercising the option to exit his current contract with the union in line with the 21-day window that ended at midnight that night.

On Friday, as franchises around the country confirmed who they had lost, the Stormers were mum and could not confirm that Du Toit was still a Stormer.

"We will make an announcement as soon as we are able. We're not going to confirm, deny or comment on anything until then," was the word from media liaison Mike de Vries.

It was initially reported that Du Toit had received a mega offer from French club Montpellier, but the club has since distanced itself from that offer by saying that it has had no contact with Du Toit.

Then, on Friday night, Netwerk24 reported that Du Toit had in fact handed in a request to leave the franchise on Thursday night - hours before the end of the contract window deadline.

Sport24 has since had that development confirmed, and it is understood that despite triggering his exit clause, Du Toit remains keen on staying at Newlands.

His current contract with the union, because he exercised his option to exit, no longer stands, but if he can have a few items amended in the form of a new contract, then he is willing to stay.

Also on Friday, speaking to the Daily Maverick, Du Toit's agent Gerrie Swart denied that his client was moving.

"Pieter-Steph is staying at Western Province; there is just some paperwork to finalise and there may be one or two sticking points there," Swart said.

The sudden interest from overseas clubs in South African players stemmed from a 21-day window that was agreed upon by the SA Rugby Industry, MyPlayers and the South African Rugby Employers' Organisation (Sareo) last month in which all professional players were given three weeks - until 14 May - to get out of their current contracts with their respective unions and sign on the dotted line with those big-spending UK, France and Japanese clubs in particular.


Du Toit is understood to have had clubs from Japan and France express interest.

The Stormers are expected to make an official announcement later on Saturday.

- Compiled by Lloyd Burnard




And now?

You should read your qoutes.


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Western Province Rugby on Saturday confirmed that its move to the Cape Town Stadium in 2021 remains 'on track'.

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The stadium in Green Point will be home to the Stormers and Western Province from the 2021 season onwards as they bid a 'sad' farewell to their iconic Newlands home which has been their base for 130 years.

Whether Newlands gets to see rugby action again in light of the Covid-19 pandemic which has brought all sport to a shuddering halt, remains to be seen.

If not, the last home match the Stormers ever played will be their 33-14 loss at the hands of the Blues on Saturday, 29 February, 2020, while the last Test to have been played will be the Springboks' 25-10 defeat to Eddie Jones' England side on Saturday, 23 June, 2018.

All told, between 1891 and 2018 the Springboks played 54 Tests at Newlands, winning 35, losing 17, while 2 clashes ended in stalemates.

In a statement, WP Rugby said: "The 2021 move to the Cape Town Stadium remains on track, and while everyone is sad to say goodbye to Newlands, the opportunity to deliver an exceptional matchday experience in a truly world class environment is extremely motivating. Watching rugby at the Cape Town Stadium will become one of the must-see experiences in world rugby, just as Newlands has been. The experience will attract not only rugby fans, but sport fans in general who want a unique experience."

For traditionalists of Newlands, the move to the Cape Town Stadium - built to host matches during the 2010 Soccer World Cup - will be a bitter pill to swallow.

The Cape Town Stadium has largely proved to be a 'white elephant' over the last decade and has placed an enormous strain on the City of Cape Town's finances.

In late 2019, the Western Province Rugby Football Union (WPRFU) accepted an R110 million deal from Investec for their Newlands property.


Newlands will reportedly be demolished to make way for residential and retail developments.

The deal will, allegedly, see the union receive a 5% share in profits from the development and 3.5% of resales of the units.


Maybe they should sell off sods of the hallowed turf to the fans? Or bottle some of the piss smelling air and sell it? Oom could take a few bottles of it to Struisbaaiand open it to pollute the air every Saturday afternoon at 15h00?


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Pieter-Steph du Toit exited his Stormers contract on Thursday night with the intention of staying at the union.

Now, that might not happen.

Sport24 understands that the Stormers were on Saturday working on a new agreement with the 2019 World Rugby Player of the Year.

As is stands, though, Du Toit is effectively without a contract and, technically, a free agent.

It was confirmed through Western Province Rugby Union (WPRU) president Zelt Marais, who spoke to Sport24 on Saturday, that Du Toit was no longer contracted to the union.

A 21-day window, that ended at midnight on Thursday, was granted for professional players in South Africa to exit their existing contracts with their unions.

Du Toit was one of three players - the others were Cobus Wiese and Jean-Luc du Plessis - to submit their termination notices to the union.

SA Rugby is on a major cost-cutting mission in reaction to the economic impacts of the global coronavirus crisis, and pay cuts have been implemented across the board at unions with players and staff all impacted.

In Du Toit's case, it means that he could have faced up to a 43% reduction in salary had he stayed at the union on his old contract.

Now, with that contract no longer, negotiations are taking place over what would be a new deal that could potentially see the financial damage of the paycut limited.

"As previously indicated by WP Rugby, the existing contracts between the players and the Company are considered as binding and WP Rugby has reserved the right to hold players to these contracts or exercise other rights that may be held," WP said in a statement on Saturday.

"These options will be discussed with the players that have purportedly cancelled their contracts and more information about the course of action will be provided in future."


It is further understood that, on Saturday, Stormers coach John Dobson and Andre van der Veen, who serves on WP's steering committee, were engaging with Du Toit's representatives over a proposed new agreement between the parties.

If that deal does not materialise, then Du Toit does have other interested parties - from France and Japan - to fall back on.

"Pieter-Steph is staying at Western Province; there is just some paperwork to finalise and there may be one or two sticking points there," Du Toit's agent, Gerrie Swart, told Daily Maverick on Friday.



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I wonder if Du Toit's new Contract with WP will be 40% more than it was previously?


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I wonder if Du Toit's new Contract with WP will be 40% more than it was previously?


They cannot afford it. Unless they pour all their slim resources into PSDT while leaving very little to bolster other positions. Huge risk. And it has been shown already this year that younger players offer as much if not more at a fraction of the cost.


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It has been one of the most highly-publicised transfer dramas in recent South African rugby history, but the Pieter-Steph du Toit saga is nearing its end.

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The future of the 27-year-old 2019 World Rugby Player of the Year has been up in the air ever since he exited his contract with Western Province and the Stormers last Thursday.

Du Toit had taken advantage of a three-week window that allowed professional players in South Africa to exit their contracts immediately as part of a broader cost-cutting mission from SA Rugby.

Pay cuts have been implemented across the board in South African rugby, and the contract window was allocated to allow players an opportunity to seek other more lucrative and stable employment as the fight against the global coronavirus crisis continues.

Du Toit is understood to have received a mega offer from France while there has also been reported interest from Japan, but his situation was complicated by the fact that he exited his contract at the Stormers with the intention of signing a new one.

Since Friday, Stormers management have been trying to settle on a new agreement with Du Toit but, as of Tuesday morning, nothing had been confirmed.


It is understood, though, that those negotiations are reaching their end and while one source described the situation as '50/50' on Monday, a final outcome is expected sooner rather than later.

The Stormers have declined to comment officially on the progress, saying that they will communicate the outcome once there has been official confirmation.


Is he playing a game for more money? Is this about the same as when the Marinos lead the strike before the semi final?


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Do you guys think that PSDT will stay or not? My guess is that he will sign a year extension and then leave after the Lions tour.


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