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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 3:44 pm 
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Laurent wrote:
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By and large, yes.

I doubt you know many.


Anyone but the Germans eh Mick?

and Frogs...

Mick has a bit of an issue

He even casts the free spending, debt reneging, socialist Alex is Tsipras as a victim of the Germans.


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shereblue wrote:
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By and large, yes.

I doubt you know many.


Anyone but the Germans eh Mick?

and Frogs...

Mick has a bit of an issue

He even casts the free spending, debt reneging, socialist Alex is Tsipras as a victim of the Germans.



The projection here is frightening. The idea Greece was treated fairly by the EU :lol: .


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I'd like to congratulate the PM for changing his mind on the application of the NHS surcharge to NHS nurses and porters and social care workers. Credit to Keir Starmer's forensic but "boring" questioning in PMQs yesterday. But respect especially to our PM for recognising that making the right decision is more important than avoiding a U turn.

I wonder if some of our posters will be big enough to recognise that only yesterday they were defending the wrong policy against criticism from me and others, or will they continue to ally themselves to Priti Patel's common-sense-defying intransigence on this issue?



Tax payer money spaffing the new normal.

So are you agin' the PM or agin' the Home Secretary?



Neither, it was just another gutless decision. Expect many more.


So Boris or Priti should have been less 'gutless' and continued with the visa charge?
Make your mind up.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 5:38 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
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By and large, yes.

I doubt you know many.


Anyone but the Germans eh Mick?

and Frogs...

Mick has a bit of an issue

He even casts the free spending, debt reneging, socialist Alex is Tsipras as a victim of the Germans.



The projection here is frightening. The idea Greece was treated fairly by the EU :lol: .


They should have erased the tab, right?


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Yes - you know how it is - the EU is terrible because they wouldn't write off the entirety of the debt run up by a corrupt populist Greek government who'd fiddled their national statistics to cover up the extent of it, whereas Bimbo and the Tory Brexiters would have willingly reached into their pockets to help out the plucky Greeks if only the EU had asked. The EU is also terrible because they didn't impose a common EU corona virus lock-down regime like the authoritarian supra-national government that doesn't respect the sovereignty of its member states that they aren't. Clear? Oh, did I forget to mention all those regulations to make banana's straight that a journo who's made a living from lying made up and is now ironically the leader of a banana monarchy?


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shereblue wrote:
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By and large, yes.

I doubt you know many.


Anyone but the Germans eh Mick?

and Frogs...

Mick has a bit of an issue

He even casts the free spending, debt reneging, socialist Alex is Tsipras as a victim of the Germans.


When you have quite finished playing with others clits...


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:34 pm 
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God no, it’s not like there was a big expensive reunification to pay for.


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I'd like to congratulate the PM for changing his mind on the application of the NHS surcharge to NHS nurses and porters and social care workers. Credit to Keir Starmer's forensic but "boring" questioning in PMQs yesterday. But respect especially to our PM for recognising that making the right decision is more important than avoiding a U turn.

I wonder if some of our posters will be big enough to recognise that only yesterday they were defending the wrong policy against criticism from me and others, or will they continue to ally themselves to Priti Patel's common-sense-defying intransigence on this issue?



Tax payer money spaffing the new normal.

So are you agin' the PM or agin' the Home Secretary?



Neither, it was just another gutless decision. Expect many more.


So Boris or Priti should have been less 'gutless' and continued with the visa charge?
Make your mind up.



What do you mean make up my mind ? Idiot.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:45 pm 
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God no, it’s not like there was a big expensive reunification to pay for.


You are hopeless.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:56 pm 
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They should have erased the tab, right?


God no, it’s not like there was a big expensive reunification to pay for.


You are hopeless.



Well quite, I can remember the first time all the fiscal rules were broken.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:00 pm 
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bimboman wrote:
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They should have erased the tab, right?


God no, it’s not like there was a big expensive reunification to pay for.


You are hopeless.



Well quite, I can remember the first time all the fiscal rules were broken.


2003?


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:11 pm 
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Mick Mannock wrote:
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They should have erased the tab, right?


God no, it’s not like there was a big expensive reunification to pay for.


You are hopeless.



Well quite, I can remember the first time all the fiscal rules were broken.


2003?


Oooh the EU's not perfectly consistent therefore everyone (especially the Germans in the Brexiter playbook) should pay for Greece's illegal debt. I don't think Descartes need lose any sleep over this line of unreasoning.


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Oooh the EU's not perfectly consistent therefore everyone (especially the Germans in the Brexiter playbook) should pay for Greece's illegal debt. I don't think Descartes need lose any sleep over this line of unreasoning.




“Illegal debt” .....


What’s illegal about it?


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Oooh the EU's not perfectly consistent therefore everyone (especially the Germans in the Brexiter playbook) should pay for Greece's illegal debt. I don't think Descartes need lose any sleep over this line of unreasoning.




“Illegal debt” .....


What’s illegal about it?



Er.. they fixed the data for years to show it didn't exist... and broke EU reporting rules in a rather massive way.

https://www.ft.com/content/33b0a48c-ff7 ... 144feabdc0

but sure the EU should reward them for their government's corruption so Europhobes like you could then use it as a stick to beat the EU with. Damned if they do and damned if they don't - you're a hopeless, morally bankrupt, fraud Bimbo.


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No deal is literally just a waste of time = there has to be a deal eventually

It's just a diplomatic failure of government. Businesses / taxpayers will pick up the slack (as usual)

Anyone painting 'no deal' as some kind of pyrrhic victory is a f*cking idiot


What about no deal as a desired outcome for our negotiating team.

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Of course the US supports a no deal – it makes a minnow out of Britain

After Trump security adviser John Bolton’s visit it’s clear the price of US backing will be paid both in trade and foreign policy
Tue 13 Aug 2019 13.14 BSTLast modified on Mon 3 Feb 2020 11.49 GMT

If you thought it was bad enough when Donald Trump held a reluctant Theresa May’s hand, then look away now. For things are about to get sweatier.

The president’s clammy embrace of the British right continued this week with the arrival of his national security adviser John Bolton in London, to declare the most isolationist US regime in living memory would “enthusiastically” support a no-deal Brexit.

A weakened country, desperate for a trade deal and in no position to refuse Donald Trump’s demands not just to lower our stringent standards or hamstring our car industry but on foreign policy too? Step right this way, sir! No wonder Bolton talks of us being at the front of the queue for trade talks, a line every bit as clearly crafted to help Downing Street as President Obama’s suggestion during the 2016 referendum that Brexit would push us to the back of it. And if these presidents can’t both be right, then arguably neither can the two very different British Conservative administrations responsible for ghostwriting their respective lines.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ign-policy



TORIES ARE GOING TO LET THE YANKS RAPE THE NHS

you hysterical fanny. :)


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 7:29 pm 
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Oooh the EU's not perfectly consistent therefore everyone (especially the Germans in the Brexiter playbook) should pay for Greece's illegal debt. I don't think Descartes need lose any sleep over this line of unreasoning.




“Illegal debt” .....


What’s illegal about it?


As a start, I could understand why people would get pissed off if I was still cashing in my dead grand mother pension.


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P in VG wrote:
No deal is literally just a waste of time = there has to be a deal eventually

It's just a diplomatic failure of government. Businesses / taxpayers will pick up the slack (as usual)

Anyone painting 'no deal' as some kind of pyrrhic victory is a f*cking idiot


What about no deal as a desired outcome for our negotiating team.

Quote:
Of course the US supports a no deal – it makes a minnow out of Britain

After Trump security adviser John Bolton’s visit it’s clear the price of US backing will be paid both in trade and foreign policy
Tue 13 Aug 2019 13.14 BSTLast modified on Mon 3 Feb 2020 11.49 GMT

If you thought it was bad enough when Donald Trump held a reluctant Theresa May’s hand, then look away now. For things are about to get sweatier.

The president’s clammy embrace of the British right continued this week with the arrival of his national security adviser John Bolton in London, to declare the most isolationist US regime in living memory would “enthusiastically” support a no-deal Brexit.

A weakened country, desperate for a trade deal and in no position to refuse Donald Trump’s demands not just to lower our stringent standards or hamstring our car industry but on foreign policy too? Step right this way, sir! No wonder Bolton talks of us being at the front of the queue for trade talks, a line every bit as clearly crafted to help Downing Street as President Obama’s suggestion during the 2016 referendum that Brexit would push us to the back of it. And if these presidents can’t both be right, then arguably neither can the two very different British Conservative administrations responsible for ghostwriting their respective lines.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ign-policy



TORIES ARE GOING TO LET THE YANKS RAPE THE NHS

you hysterical fanny. :)


I don't know why but I've a suspicion that had 6 months ago anyone here to have posted something saying we're at serious risk of a pandemic that could lead to over 50k deaths and a massive economic collapse you would have called them an hysterical fanny.


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Raison D'etre wrote:
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Oooh the EU's not perfectly consistent therefore everyone (especially the Germans in the Brexiter playbook) should pay for Greece's illegal debt. I don't think Descartes need lose any sleep over this line of unreasoning.




“Illegal debt” .....


What’s illegal about it?



Er.. they fixed the data for years to show it didn't exist... and broke EU reporting rules in a rather massive way.

https://www.ft.com/content/33b0a48c-ff7 ... 144feabdc0

but sure the EU should reward them for their government's corruption so Europhobes like you could then use it as a stick to beat the EU with. Damned if they do and damned if they don't - you're a hopeless, morally bankrupt, fraud Bimbo.



What law did they break that makes the bonds “illegal”?


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Enough of this childish argumentative pish, so long UK, I wish you well. Brexit has become the most embarrasing negotiation in 'recent' history - both sides have little to nothing to take credit for in any way. In military terms, a complete fvck up. Good luck all concerned. Easiest deal in history my hairy hoop ...


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Mick Mannock wrote:
shereblue wrote:
Laurent wrote:
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By and large, yes.

I doubt you know many.


Anyone but the Germans eh Mick?

and Frogs...

Mick has a bit of an issue

He even casts the free spending, debt reneging, socialist Alex is Tsipras as a victim of the Germans.


When you have quite finished playing with others clits...


I wish I could unimagine your ever classy metaphor.

Like most of your anti European bile in fact.

I do also imagine it all raises a few laughs amongst your mates.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.

Reciprocity is pretty common in any dealings between two countries.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.

Reciprocity is pretty common in any dealings between two countries.


Resciprocity doesn't make sense here. I agree it's common for trade, general immigration, etc. but the French applying reciprocity in this case is basically a public statement that they don't believe the other party is acting in the name of public safety. It's really a pretty public slapdown without having to try and explain why they're doing it.

For instance, we don't require immunisation certificates to enter the UK, just because other countries require it for us to enter their countries


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Whenever I hear the word reciprocity, all I can think of is Dudley Smith's goon squad beating the shit out of Sid Hudgens in LA Confidential.


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camroc1 wrote:
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.

Reciprocity is pretty common in any dealings between two countries.


Indeed.

French authorities did the same with Spain.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


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mdaclarke wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.

Reciprocity is pretty common in any dealings between two countries.


Resciprocity doesn't make sense here. I agree it's common for trade, general immigration, etc. but the French applying reciprocity in this case is basically a public statement that they don't believe the other party is acting in the name of public safety. It's really a pretty public slapdown without having to try and explain why they're doing it.

For instance, we don't require immunisation certificates to enter the UK, just because other countries require it for us to enter their countries


Indeed.

And it is all completely pointless.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.

Reciprocity is pretty common in any dealings between two countries.


Resciprocity doesn't make sense here. I agree it's common for trade, general immigration, etc. but the French applying reciprocity in this case is basically a public statement that they don't believe the other party is acting in the name of public safety. It's really a pretty public slapdown without having to try and explain why they're doing it.

For instance, we don't require immunisation certificates to enter the UK, just because other countries require it for us to enter their countries


Indeed.

And it is all completely pointless.


Well it shouldn't stop business travel, and the last thing you want is a bunch of British tourists with no beaches, bars and restaurants open.
Personally I don't mind quarantining at all. Same as over here except with sun and family.


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mdaclarke wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


Takes one to know one, you obviously have trouble with basic comprehension as you have completely missed the point I have made, strikes me that missing the point is something that you do quite regularly.

France are entitled to quarantine, but saying they are doing it just because the UK is (as France has expressly said) makes France looks very childish. 2 wrongs don't make a right. If France want to do it then they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence. Ideally they should present this evidence (as the UK should).


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mdaclarke wrote:
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mdaclarke wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


Takes one to know one, you obviously have trouble with basic comprehension as you have completely missed the point I have made, strikes me that missing the point is something that you do quite regularly.

France are entitled to quarantine, but saying they are doing it just because the UK is (as France has expressly said) makes France looks very childish. 2 wrongs don't make a right. If France want to do it then they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence. Ideally they should present this evidence (as the UK should).


So you're saying UK policy is explained by science? And Ireland and France, or Greece, need to be treated differently based on said science?


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piquant wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
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mdaclarke wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


Takes one to know one, you obviously have trouble with basic comprehension as you have completely missed the point I have made, strikes me that missing the point is something that you do quite regularly.

France are entitled to quarantine, but saying they are doing it just because the UK is (as France has expressly said) makes France looks very childish. 2 wrongs don't make a right. If France want to do it then they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence. Ideally they should present this evidence (as the UK should).


So you're saying UK policy is explained by science? And Ireland and France, or Greece, need to be treated differently based on said science?


25% of the UK are currently having their wages paid by the government.
Imagine the outcry if they all f**ked off to Greece on holiday?
Luckily, I can 'work from home' in France.


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mdaclarke wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52781812

Two wrongs don't make a right. France is free to do this, but they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence, not just because another country is doing it.


Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


Takes one to know one, you obviously have trouble with basic comprehension as you have completely missed the point I have made, strikes me that missing the point is something that you do quite regularly.

France are entitled to quarantine, but saying they are doing it just because the UK is (as France has expressly said) makes France looks very childish. 2 wrongs don't make a right. If France want to do it then they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence. Ideally they should present this evidence (as the UK should).


So you're saying UK policy is explained by science? And Ireland and France, or Greece, need to be treated differently based on said science?


25% of the UK are currently having their wages paid by the government.
Imagine the outcry if they all f**ked off to Greece on holiday?
Luckily, I can 'work from home' in France.


I thought we were talking about the response of other countries, namely France, to UK quarantine restrictions on travelling to the UK.


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So what's happening with Brexit?

Any sign of the German car industry stepping in yet?


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So what's happening with Brexit?

Any sign of the German car industry stepping in yet?

I thought it was Italian prosecco producers ?


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Amsterdam is already trying to get ahead of it by cleaning up De Walen, and catering to more sophisticated tourists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/19/amsterdam-is-considering-moving-red-light-district-indoors


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mdaclarke wrote:
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Without getting too anal with the stats, are they not more or less the same?
On that basis how could you expect the uk science lead one direction, but the French science to lead another direction. It seems to me you are a moron.


Takes one to know one, you obviously have trouble with basic comprehension as you have completely missed the point I have made, strikes me that missing the point is something that you do quite regularly.

France are entitled to quarantine, but saying they are doing it just because the UK is (as France has expressly said) makes France looks very childish. 2 wrongs don't make a right. If France want to do it then they should do it on the basis of scientific evidence. Ideally they should present this evidence (as the UK should).


So you're saying UK policy is explained by science? And Ireland and France, or Greece, need to be treated differently based on said science?


25% of the UK are currently having their wages paid by the government.
Imagine the outcry if they all f**ked off to Greece on holiday?
Luckily, I can 'work from home' in France.


I thought we were talking about the response of other countries, namely France, to UK quarantine restrictions on travelling to the UK.


Why would the frogs want to visit Scarborough beach? Boris and Macron have been discussing opening back up for weeks.


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Zico wrote:
So what's happening with Brexit?

Any sign of the German car industry stepping in yet?


Too busy squabbling over money
https://www.ft.com/content/add218ac-f63 ... 4e9033e015


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So you're saying UK policy is explained by science? And Ireland and France, or Greece, need to be treated differently based on said science?


25% of the UK are currently having their wages paid by the government.
Imagine the outcry if they all f**ked off to Greece on holiday?
Luckily, I can 'work from home' in France.


I thought we were talking about the response of other countries, namely France, to UK quarantine restrictions on travelling to the UK.


Why would the frogs want to visit Scarborough beach? Boris and Macron have been discussing opening back up for weeks.


Any answer(s) as to whether the UK position is based on science if we're to address the concerns that France's response to our actions isn't based on science?


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Amsterdam is already trying to get ahead of it by cleaning up De Walen, and catering to more sophisticated tourists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/19/amsterdam-is-considering-moving-red-light-district-indoors

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Amsterdam is considering moving part of its red light district indoors to an “erotic” complex where prostitutes no longer beckon customers through street-front windows that often attract rowdy tourists.

In plans released on Wednesday, the Dutch city said the complex could include a bed and breakfast for prostitutes as well as a sex club, sex theatre and cafes.

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The erotic centre will not just cater to pleasures of the flesh but also house a beauty salon, a hair dresser and a tanning studio.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I was just there getting a haircut. Honest!


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