Re: OFFICIAL Brexit Thread
Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:44 am
get ta fvck dick wad
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As logic and reason are ignored, it seems that is all that the average Brexiter understands.merry! wrote:resorting to insults again lads.
you lose.
lilyw wrote:Really - equivalence for the City not an issue then? 30 days notice of withdrawal.bimboman wrote:Wyndham Upalot wrote:Sorry, that doesn't meet the UK's self imposed timelines. Please expand?
Both sides agreed a “mutual” timeline .... we will leave with no deal, it’ll be a pain in the ring for some industries, they’ll lobby, it’ll change.
It won’t actually mean much beyond tariffs on goods.
fishfoodie wrote:Hey; who cares about 80% of the economy,lilyw wrote:Really - equivalence for the City not an issue then? 30 days notice of withdrawal.bimboman wrote:Wyndham Upalot wrote:Sorry, that doesn't meet the UK's self imposed timelines. Please expand?
Both sides agreed a “mutual” timeline .... we will leave with no deal, it’ll be a pain in the ring for some industries, they’ll lobby, it’ll change.
It won’t actually mean much beyond tariffs on goods.
Fuck Business !
I am confident you are bigger than Vasyl LomachenkoWyndham Upalot wrote:Apparently not, that independent nonsense counts for nothing. The EC/EU is prepared to say no. The blunt truth is, they're bigger.merry! wrote:no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.Wyndham Upalot wrote:No agreement bimbo, so regrettably, no one wins.bimboman wrote:Wyndham Upalot wrote:My sis in the EC has told me that impasse has unfortunately already been reached. No deal it is.
Cool. They’ll be a deal eventually.
The EU clearly didn’t want a reasonable deal. So that’s ok.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
The EU is indeed bigger.merry! wrote:the eu is bigger, but we'll have more flexibility. the eu's position in the world remains unchanged, other than losing one of its most prosperous members.………………………………………..those are known knowns.Wyndham Upalot wrote:Apparently not, that independent nonsense counts for nothing. The EC/EU is prepared to say no. The blunt truth is, they're bigger.merry! wrote: no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
shereblue wrote:The EU is indeed bigger.merry! wrote:the eu is bigger, but we'll have more flexibility. the eu's position in the world remains unchanged, other than losing one of its most prosperous members.………………………………………..those are known knowns.Wyndham Upalot wrote:Apparently not, that independent nonsense counts for nothing. The EC/EU is prepared to say no. The blunt truth is, they're bigger.merry! wrote: no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
But hey, my little sovereign friend, take pride in being "one of the most prosperous members" of the EU.
You left it, head held high, as its 12th most prosperous member out of 28. Or 15th out of 31, counting the Schengen EEA members.
Size of economy is not "prosperity". How many times have you made us all feel poor, "because Switzerland".bimboman wrote:shereblue wrote:The EU is indeed bigger.merry! wrote:the eu is bigger, but we'll have more flexibility. the eu's position in the world remains unchanged, other than losing one of its most prosperous members.………………………………………..those are known knowns.Wyndham Upalot wrote:Apparently not, that independent nonsense counts for nothing. The EC/EU is prepared to say no. The blunt truth is, they're bigger.merry! wrote: no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
But hey, my little sovereign friend, take pride in being "one of the most prosperous members" of the EU.
You left it, head held high, as its 12th most prosperous member out of 28. Or 15th out of 31, counting the Schengen EEA members.
The Uk economy is larger than the bottom 19 grouped together. 7th largest economy in The world. Seat on the UN Security Council and one of the largest global diplomatic forces in the world.
Sherblue says we are 12th. Which considering there’s not even 12 net contributors in the EU is a surprise.
On the bacon front, chauvinist or not, the UK's male pigs are unanimously opposed to Boris' Brexit and pro Barnier's level playing field.Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Size of economy is not "prosperity". How many times have you made us all feel poor, "because Switzerland".
Neither is "prosperity" a seat on the UN Security Council. And neither would it be connected with being a "largest diplomatic force" [incidentally, the UK is now diplomatically diminished to US vassal state].
Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
You really should just pack it in. In your 10000's of posts on this thread you have achieved nothing.bimboman wrote:Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Or the EU is dangerously reliant on the UK market for its production and sales.
sorCrer wrote:You really should just pack it in. In your 10000's of posts on this thread you have achieved nothing.bimboman wrote:Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Or the EU is dangerously reliant on the UK market for its production and sales.
I wouldn't say he's achieved nothing: he's probably driven away a lot of sensible posters from the thread who might have contributed, but won't because of the toxic nature of any response from Bimbo and his coterie of similar minded posters.sorCrer wrote:You really should just pack it in. In your 10000's of posts on this thread you have achieved nothing.bimboman wrote:Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Or the EU is dangerously reliant on the UK market for its production and sales.
Balanced out by the likes of you.Rinkals wrote:I wouldn't say he's achieved nothing: he's probably driven away a lot of sensible posters from the thread who might have contributed, but won't because of the toxic nature of any response from Bimbo and his coterie of similar minded posters.sorCrer wrote:You really should just pack it in. In your 10000's of posts on this thread you have achieved nothing.bimboman wrote:Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Or the EU is dangerously reliant on the UK market for its production and sales.
He'd probably chalk that up as a win.
I cope well enough.Mick Mannock wrote:Balanced out by the likes of you.Rinkals wrote:I wouldn't say he's achieved nothing: he's probably driven away a lot of sensible posters from the thread who might have contributed, but won't because of the toxic nature of any response from Bimbo and his coterie of similar minded posters.sorCrer wrote:You really should just pack it in. In your 10000's of posts on this thread you have achieved nothing.bimboman wrote:Sawtooth the Beaver wrote:https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/ ... M-lnb4SA8U
Time for a poll. BLT or no BLT by early February?
Or the EU is dangerously reliant on the UK market for its production and sales.
He'd probably chalk that up as a win.
Sensible posters: those who agree with you and feed your neediness. You do not seen to cope well with views that do not mirror your own.
merry! wrote:no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.Wyndham Upalot wrote:No agreement bimbo, so regrettably, no one wins.bimboman wrote:Wyndham Upalot wrote:My sis in the EC has told me that impasse has unfortunately already been reached. No deal it is.
Cool. They’ll be a deal eventually.
The EU clearly didn’t want a reasonable deal. So that’s ok.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
Hellraiser wrote:merry! wrote:no trade agreement this year. but with everything being fecked by covid anyway, brexit losses will be small potatoes.Wyndham Upalot wrote:No agreement bimbo, so regrettably, no one wins.bimboman wrote:Wyndham Upalot wrote:My sis in the EC has told me that impasse has unfortunately already been reached. No deal it is.
Cool. They’ll be a deal eventually.
The EU clearly didn’t want a reasonable deal. So that’s ok.
serious talks will happen after the transition, when brussels realises they are talking to an independent, sovereign nation.
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
merry! wrote:cammy's learned a new word..
Which bits require punitive legislation, and which bits arise by default because the uk chose to leave without an FTA?bimboman wrote:etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
Are they allowed to pass punitive legislation of the nature you describe as a “punishment “ under ECJ law ?
Leinster in London wrote:Which bits require punitive legislation, and which bits arise by default because the uk chose to leave without an FTA?bimboman wrote:etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
Are they allowed to pass punitive legislation of the nature you describe as a “punishment “ under ECJ law ?
"People knew what they were voting for !"Leinster in London wrote:Which bits require punitive legislation, and which bits arise by default because the uk chose to leave without an FTA?bimboman wrote:etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
Are they allowed to pass punitive legislation of the nature you describe as a “punishment “ under ECJ law ?
Agree - we were the ones leaving the club so can't understand why folk now expect to have some of the benefits without paying their dues. It was our choice to leave (unfortunately) so we are really dependant on the EU telling us what the price is for the benefits we wish to retain. If we dont like the price we just dont pay the price them up and suffer the consequences. I honestly can't see what the problem is, we all knew this is how it would play out and that our bargaining position was weak and even weaker now post Cover19. There isn't anything punative about this, it is merely the EU getting the best deal they can for their member states and if we are on our knees then why wouldn't they use this to their advantage and seek as good a price as they can? This is a big boys game and I honestly think that the Blonde Bumbelcunt has completely fecked up with the Withdrawal Agreement and the Political Declaration and is trying to get out of his signed up promises. He has backed himself and his party into a corner and they are going to implode once folk realise exactly what he has signed them up to and what the implications are. A border in the Irish Sea is just a wee starter for 10.fishfoodie wrote:"People knew what they were voting for !"Leinster in London wrote:Which bits require punitive legislation, and which bits arise by default because the uk chose to leave without an FTA?bimboman wrote:etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
Are they allowed to pass punitive legislation of the nature you describe as a “punishment “ under ECJ law ?
Boris never wanted that deal. He was desperate to get any deal to leave as he had promised but couldn't get parliament to back anything he did so tried to appease them. Now the idiot has a majority he doesn't want to stick to it.camroc1 wrote:
Which is why the Express is running with the headline :
"BORIS WANTS TO FIX UNFAIR BREXIT DEAL"
That would be the Brexit deal that Boris personally negotiated, getting the EU to reopen the WA to make changes he personally wanted, including changing the Political Declaration to a form he thought better for the UK, then signing said agreement, bringing it to the HoC and getting passed by the HoC.
No wonder the EU don't trust either Boris, the UK government, or the UK negotiators.
If this resiling of previously agreed positions continues to be the UK line expect the EU to start publishing exactly what the restrictions the UK will face in a hard Brexit, inter alia, :
- visa/visa exemption requirements for UK citizens wanting to go abroad
- a few hundred haulage licences for the entire UK haulage industry
- no food exports from the UK to the EU because the UK refuses to accept EU standards
- British registered aircraft and airlines can't fly 'cabotage' within the EU
- UK awarded degrees no longer recognised by the EU
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
The world doesn't work like that.Anonymous. wrote:Boris never wanted that deal. He was desperate to get any deal to leave as he had promised but couldn't get parliament to back anything he did so tried to appease them. Now the idiot has a majority he doesn't want to stick to it.camroc1 wrote:
Which is why the Express is running with the headline :
"BORIS WANTS TO FIX UNFAIR BREXIT DEAL"
That would be the Brexit deal that Boris personally negotiated, getting the EU to reopen the WA to make changes he personally wanted, including changing the Political Declaration to a form he thought better for the UK, then signing said agreement, bringing it to the HoC and getting passed by the HoC.
No wonder the EU don't trust either Boris, the UK government, or the UK negotiators.
If this resiling of previously agreed positions continues to be the UK line expect the EU to start publishing exactly what the restrictions the UK will face in a hard Brexit, inter alia, :
- visa/visa exemption requirements for UK citizens wanting to go abroad
- a few hundred haulage licences for the entire UK haulage industry
- no food exports from the UK to the EU because the UK refuses to accept EU standards
- British registered aircraft and airlines can't fly 'cabotage' within the EU
- UK awarded degrees no longer recognised by the EU
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
you've not met many old etonians have you?camroc1 wrote:The world doesn't work like that.Anonymous. wrote:Boris never wanted that deal. He was desperate to get any deal to leave as he had promised but couldn't get parliament to back anything he did so tried to appease them. Now the idiot has a majority he doesn't want to stick to it.camroc1 wrote:
Which is why the Express is running with the headline :
"BORIS WANTS TO FIX UNFAIR BREXIT DEAL"
That would be the Brexit deal that Boris personally negotiated, getting the EU to reopen the WA to make changes he personally wanted, including changing the Political Declaration to a form he thought better for the UK, then signing said agreement, bringing it to the HoC and getting passed by the HoC.
No wonder the EU don't trust either Boris, the UK government, or the UK negotiators.
If this resiling of previously agreed positions continues to be the UK line expect the EU to start publishing exactly what the restrictions the UK will face in a hard Brexit, inter alia, :
- visa/visa exemption requirements for UK citizens wanting to go abroad
- a few hundred haulage licences for the entire UK haulage industry
- no food exports from the UK to the EU because the UK refuses to accept EU standards
- British registered aircraft and airlines can't fly 'cabotage' within the EU
- UK awarded degrees no longer recognised by the EU
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
The idiot never thought long enough to even think about deals; remember the two letters ?Anonymous. wrote:Boris never wanted that deal. He was desperate to get any deal to leave as he had promised but couldn't get parliament to back anything he did so tried to appease them. Now the idiot has a majority he doesn't want to stick to it.camroc1 wrote:
Which is why the Express is running with the headline :
"BORIS WANTS TO FIX UNFAIR BREXIT DEAL"
That would be the Brexit deal that Boris personally negotiated, getting the EU to reopen the WA to make changes he personally wanted, including changing the Political Declaration to a form he thought better for the UK, then signing said agreement, bringing it to the HoC and getting passed by the HoC.
No wonder the EU don't trust either Boris, the UK government, or the UK negotiators.
If this resiling of previously agreed positions continues to be the UK line expect the EU to start publishing exactly what the restrictions the UK will face in a hard Brexit, inter alia, :
- visa/visa exemption requirements for UK citizens wanting to go abroad
- a few hundred haulage licences for the entire UK haulage industry
- no food exports from the UK to the EU because the UK refuses to accept EU standards
- British registered aircraft and airlines can't fly 'cabotage' within the EU
- UK awarded degrees no longer recognised by the EU
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
We ran the fúckers out in '22.happyhooker wrote:you've not met many old etonians have you?camroc1 wrote:The world doesn't work like that.Anonymous. wrote:Boris never wanted that deal. He was desperate to get any deal to leave as he had promised but couldn't get parliament to back anything he did so tried to appease them. Now the idiot has a majority he doesn't want to stick to it.camroc1 wrote:
Which is why the Express is running with the headline :
"BORIS WANTS TO FIX UNFAIR BREXIT DEAL"
That would be the Brexit deal that Boris personally negotiated, getting the EU to reopen the WA to make changes he personally wanted, including changing the Political Declaration to a form he thought better for the UK, then signing said agreement, bringing it to the HoC and getting passed by the HoC.
No wonder the EU don't trust either Boris, the UK government, or the UK negotiators.
If this resiling of previously agreed positions continues to be the UK line expect the EU to start publishing exactly what the restrictions the UK will face in a hard Brexit, inter alia, :
- visa/visa exemption requirements for UK citizens wanting to go abroad
- a few hundred haulage licences for the entire UK haulage industry
- no food exports from the UK to the EU because the UK refuses to accept EU standards
- British registered aircraft and airlines can't fly 'cabotage' within the EU
- UK awarded degrees no longer recognised by the EU
etc. etc. etc. for a very, very long list indeed, which will just be the EU amending its legislation to account for the fact that the UK has chosen to leave the EU without a trade agreement.
you try telling them they can't do exctly what they want
It's something the Brexiters don't get because they don't know their own history. They seem surprised we don't trust them.camroc1 wrote: We ran the fúckers out in '22.
They are succeeding though, they've set out a position with core principles like 'fudge business' and they're delivering on that intenthappyhooker wrote: you've not met many old etonians have you?
you try telling them they can't do exctly what they want
terryfinch wrote:Some gloomy predictions about the Eurozone in today's DT. In particular "Oxford professor Richard Werner said the euro has become a doomsday machine. “In the end it destabilises every country in one way or another. It will be Germany’s turn next,” he said."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... rd-journey
Take your place in the queue.terryfinch wrote:Some gloomy predictions about the Eurozone in today's DT. In particular "Oxford professor Richard Werner said the euro has become a doomsday machine. “In the end it destabilises every country in one way or another. It will be Germany’s turn next,” he said."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... rd-journey