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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm You interpret things in a strange way bimbo.

The 83,000 predicted job losses was determined by academics and experts in the field. Don’t blow your top bimbo. I can direct you to the people who determined the numbers if you like.

No, it was predicted by an accountancy firm at the request of the London Stock Exchange, the reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.
I better tell EY to run for the hills in that case.
I would think EY involved academics in helping develop the report.

“.. reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.”
That’s a mouthful. So what you are trying to say is some aspects of the report were way off.
So what parts of the report were way off?
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One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm You interpret things in a strange way bimbo.

The 83,000 predicted job losses was determined by academics and experts in the field. Don’t blow your top bimbo. I can direct you to the people who determined the numbers if you like.

No, it was predicted by an accountancy firm at the request of the London Stock Exchange, the reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.
I better tell EY to run for the hills in that case.
I would think EY involved academics in helping develop the report.

“.. reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.”
That’s a mouthful. So what you are trying to say is some aspects of the report were way off.
So what parts of the report were way off?


Why would EY involve academics ?

I want you to tell me about the report and your 83,000 job claim before we discuss anything else.

Or we can talk holidays n stuff.

Aussies ganna domthis. :nod:
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:51 pm
1/ Behind the scenes the third country listing or 'food blockade' row isn't quite so dramatic. The EU wants the UK to provide details of its post-Brexit animal and plant health (SPS) rules by the end of next month. The UK says it will, and they'll basically be the same as now.
2/ The EU wants this information so it knows the conditions under which its farmers will be able to export goods to the UK from January 1. This is a requirement for opening up its market to agricultural produce from Britain, and is demanded of every third country on the list.
3/ EU official says the UK has pledged to transpose the Official Control Regulation, which gives the Commission oversight powers along the agrifood supply chain, as well as EU rules on animal and plant health 'with modifications'. They're now waiting for the domestic legislation.
4/ They won't have long to wait. UK spokes says legislation to make the OCR operable in UK law will be put before Parliament next month. Adds: 'The UK is committed to maintaining the highest animal welfare and biosecurity standards. Our future rules will reflect this commitment.'
/ The EU will reserve judgement until it has seen the small print, in particular those modifications to its SPS rules. But if all is well the listing can be done in a matter of days. This is now settling down into a technocratic exercise, which is what it was always meant to be.
6/ One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
After all the talks about threats to Northern Ireland food, thank God for some sense from the UK.

To summarise:

The Commission will have oversight on agrifood supply chain into the EU
If the UK wants to do a trade deal with US with regard to SPS , they have to notify the EU .

Some progress.
It's what we said we'd do. The rules that they're after are known because they wrote them.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it


The request is massively disrespectful and like fishing and state control designed to subjugate or no deal.

There’s nothing getting signed either.
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shereblue wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:47 am
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:45 am I don't expect you to get it Message. You're not very bright.
It's utter bollocks
Toryism is supposed to be conservative and unionist, but it has become (in objective effect) radically anti-union. It is pushing through the most extreme possible version of a Brexit that both Scotland and Northern Ireland rejected.
The EU want no deal, the tories have always wanted a deal. It really is f**king bollocks. Really.
Last year you were gagging for "no deal"

What will it be next year?

You don't know. Unmoored with no destination . Exactly as the article suggests

England has lost an empire and not yet found its place in the world.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it
It is impossible to tell the EU what future trade deals will consist of, as they are in the future FFS. The EU have threatened to stop food going from GB to NI if we don't become psychic in the next month..... or they have demanded to control our trade deals with third parties.
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Britain has lost an empire.

Then again, so have many nations.
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it
It is impossible to tell the EU what future trade deals will consist of, as they are in the future FFS. The EU have threatened to stop food going from GB to NI if we don't become psychic in the next month..... or they have demanded to control our trade deals with third parties.

This is deliberate, like fishing they try to make it sound so reasonable while actually taking away sovereignty, a sovereignty they grant to every other nation on earth.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:12 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it
It is impossible to tell the EU what future trade deals will consist of, as they are in the future FFS. The EU have threatened to stop food going from GB to NI if we don't become psychic in the next month..... or they have demanded to control our trade deals with third parties.

This is deliberate, like fishing they try to make it sound so reasonable while actually taking away sovereignty, a sovereignty they grant to every other nation on earth.
They do not grant it as such. They simply do not try to remove it.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm You interpret things in a strange way bimbo.

The 83,000 predicted job losses was determined by academics and experts in the field. Don’t blow your top bimbo. I can direct you to the people who determined the numbers if you like.

No, it was predicted by an accountancy firm at the request of the London Stock Exchange, the reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.
I better tell EY to run for the hills in that case.
I would think EY involved academics in helping develop the report.

“.. reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.”
That’s a mouthful. So what you are trying to say is some aspects of the report were way off.
So what parts of the report were way off?


Why would EY involve academics ?

I want you to tell me about the report and your 83,000 job claim before we discuss anything else.

Or we can talk holidays n stuff.

Aussies ganna domthis. :nod:
You are losing it at a rate of knots now. To be honest, I struggle with your comprehension.
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Did you lose you job in the financial services sector bimbo?
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Hellraiser wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm
shereblue wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:47 am
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:45 am I don't expect you to get it Message. You're not very bright.
It's utter bollocks
Toryism is supposed to be conservative and unionist, but it has become (in objective effect) radically anti-union. It is pushing through the most extreme possible version of a Brexit that both Scotland and Northern Ireland rejected.
The EU want no deal, the tories have always wanted a deal. It really is f**king bollocks. Really.
Last year you were gagging for "no deal"

What will it be next year?

You don't know. Unmoored with no destination . Exactly as the article suggests

England has lost an empire and not yet found its place in the world.
Ironic that the empire was lost by defending Europe from being overlorded by the Germans.
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As far as I can see euro-denominated clearing houses have not yet being forced out of London. So naturally the EY report is just that, based on a hypothesis that has not yet come to happen.
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:20 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm
shereblue wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:47 am
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:45 am I don't expect you to get it Message. You're not very bright.
It's utter bollocks
Toryism is supposed to be conservative and unionist, but it has become (in objective effect) radically anti-union. It is pushing through the most extreme possible version of a Brexit that both Scotland and Northern Ireland rejected.
The EU want no deal, the tories have always wanted a deal. It really is f**king bollocks. Really.
Last year you were gagging for "no deal"

What will it be next year?

You don't know. Unmoored with no destination . Exactly as the article suggests

England has lost an empire and not yet found its place in the world.
Ironic that the empire was lost by defending Europe from being overlorded by the Germans.
I know you got yourselves into massive debt and got into the yanks debt which you're still paying off with dead soldiers fighting their wars
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:53 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:44 pm You interpret things in a strange way bimbo.

The 83,000 predicted job losses was determined by academics and experts in the field. Don’t blow your top bimbo. I can direct you to the people who determined the numbers if you like.

No, it was predicted by an accountancy firm at the request of the London Stock Exchange, the reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.
I better tell EY to run for the hills in that case.
I would think EY involved academics in helping develop the report.

“.. reports predictions have universally failed to actually come true regarding other issues in it.”
That’s a mouthful. So what you are trying to say is some aspects of the report were way off.
So what parts of the report were way off?


Why would EY involve academics ?

I want you to tell me about the report and your 83,000 job claim before we discuss anything else.

Or we can talk holidays n stuff.

Aussies ganna domthis. :nod:
You are losing it at a rate of knots now. To be honest, I struggle with your comprehension.


You lost in Fernandez and now we’ve taken a page of posts while you tried to bluff about the LCH. I realise you’ve got little sense but this is a spanking .....

You realise when the swarm tomorrow claim your “victory” they’re not serious, I mean even Mullet is embarrassed and he’s fat.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:22 pm As far as I can see euro-denominated clearing houses have not yet being forced out of London. So naturally the EY report is just that, based on a hypothesis that has not yet come to happen.


There’s no such thing a a currency denomination for a clearing house you idiot,
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:10 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:07 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:05 pm
One possible fly in the ointment is the extent to which the EU will press the UK on possible future changes to its SPS regime. Some here are nervous about the influence of talks with the US. The UK will resist doing so, saying it'll notify the EU in good time of any new rules.
This request is absolutely outrageous from the EU. Like proper mental. There’s a perfectly good mechanism for advising on this which the EU accepts from every other country in the globe.
Unlike the WA , you haven't signed this into law.

If you don't like it, then don't sign it and go back on it
It is impossible to tell the EU what future trade deals will consist of, as they are in the future FFS. The EU have threatened to stop food going from GB to NI if we don't become psychic in the next month..... or they have demanded to control our trade deals with third parties.
If the UK sign that agreement and going by the author of my quotes, they will, then the UK becomes listed and the issue of threatening NI with food blockade goes away.

We're getting there.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 pm Did you lose you job in the financial services sector bimbo?

Yeah, after 30 years. I didn’t lose anything though. I was self employed for the last ten years before a consultancy gig in Switzerland.....

The best bit I was profitable every quarter for 15 years of that time.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:25 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 pm Did you lose you job in the financial services sector bimbo?

Yeah, after 30 years. I didn’t lose anything though. I was self employed for the last ten years before a consultancy gig in Switzerland.....
I think the first piece of sense you posted recently.
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4 Nations, one country.
If you take International Standards prevailing over British Standards. [without a hint of irony awareness]
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I’m sure you held on your underpants. Good to hear.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:29 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:25 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:17 pm Did you lose you job in the financial services sector bimbo?

Yeah, after 30 years. I didn’t lose anything though. I was self employed for the last ten years before a consultancy gig in Switzerland.....
I think the first piece of sense you posted recently.

You have no grasps regarding the basics of clearing , I doubt you’d understand any aspect of the jobs being discussed. All a bit above you.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:30 pm I’m sure you held on your underpants. Good to hear.

Not an expression I’ve ever heard. Must be something from what ever mess employs you.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:31 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:30 pm I’m sure you held on your underpants. Good to hear.

Not an expression I’ve ever heard. Must be something from what ever mess employs you.
Whooo.. Whooo.. burn
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I seem to be leading you a merry dance and just started learning about this topic an hour ago.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:33 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:31 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:30 pm I’m sure you held on your underpants. Good to hear.

Not an expression I’ve ever heard. Must be something from what ever mess employs you.
Whooo.. Whooo.. burn
Any more detail on the currency denominated clearing houses.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:33 pm I seem to be leading you a merry dance and just started learning about this topic an hour ago.


Well you’ve not even tried, the currency thing seems to demonstrate this admirably.

I suspect you literally know nothing about it. It hasn’t been great has it.

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A very poor look.

This tells me, the UK think they're going to get a trade deal .....or thought
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:24 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:22 pm As far as I can see euro-denominated clearing houses have not yet being forced out of London. So naturally the EY report is just that, based on a hypothesis that has not yet come to happen.


There’s no such thing a a currency denomination for a clearing house you idiot,
By the way you dope, surely you can see this means the clearing houses that process euro denominated transactions.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:35 pm A very poor look.

This tells me, the UK think they're going to get a trade deal .....or thought

Nah, they’re just shite at IT.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:24 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:22 pm As far as I can see euro-denominated clearing houses have not yet being forced out of London. So naturally the EY report is just that, based on a hypothesis that has not yet come to happen.


There’s no such thing a a currency denomination for a clearing house you idiot,
By the way you dope, surely you can see this means the clearing houses that process euro denominated transactions.

That still makes no sense. Here’s a clue , where do most Swedish Krona swaps clear?
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:48 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:24 pm
YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:22 pm As far as I can see euro-denominated clearing houses have not yet being forced out of London. So naturally the EY report is just that, based on a hypothesis that has not yet come to happen.
There’s no such thing a a currency denomination for a clearing house you idiot,
By the way you dope, surely you can see this means the clearing houses that process euro denominated transactions.

That still makes no sense. Here’s a clue , where do most Swedish Krona swaps clear?
Quite probably it is LCH.
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iarmhiman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:35 pm A very poor look.

This tells me, the UK think they're going to get a trade deal .....or thought
So the EU don't want a deal, then. We knew it.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:21 pm Multiple requests to amend the WA


https://committees.parliament.uk/public ... 9/default/


From the EU in June 2020.




Send us the fine. :lol:
So, there was a pre-determined method in the WA to sort out technical aspects.
But Scummings, BJ, & their lapdog threw out the WA, and introduced a unilateral mechanism.
No wonder the UK reputation is going down the drain.
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Leinster in London wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:55 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:21 pm Multiple requests to amend the WA


https://committees.parliament.uk/public ... 9/default/


From the EU in June 2020.




Send us the fine. :lol:
So, there was a pre-determined method in the WA to sort out technical aspects.
But Scummings, BJ, & their lapdog threw out the WA, and introduced a unilateral mechanism.
No wonder the UK reputation is going down the drain.

Yeah, we’ve all read the truth on this now, UK will be fine.
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Waiting bimbo for your big revelation. Better be worth it. I replied LCH.

By the way, did I not answer your question 1 or 2 pages back? If that’s with big clue is about.
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YOYO wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:02 pm Waiting bimbo for your big revelation. Better be worth it. I replied LCH.

But how can they if they’re a Euro denominated clearing house ?
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