MrJonno wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:16 am
mdaclarke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:31 pm
Zico wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:28 pm
mdaclarke wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:26 pm
Any campaign to Rejoin is doomed if it doesn;t deal with the issue of foreign criminals taking advantage of FoM to commit crime.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rfume.html
Maybe a small minority but any rejoin campaign can't pretend that they don't exist. Unless rejoiners have a solution any campaign to rejoin is doomed.
Doesn't make it not true though.
Being the daily mail doesn't make it true but the truth of the matter is the UK has always had the right, under EU rules, to stop criminals entering, it just choose not to use it.
And it was also the UK that insisted on more relaxed rules than other countries wanted.
Or course you've had access to that info all along and either choose not to believe it or are deliberately lying. Either way you are being dishonest
Your post is a classic example of why Remainers keep losing, dismissing true stories a just because you don't like them and then accusing me of lying or being dishonest
What part of the daily mail story was incorrect?
I won't lower myself to your level. However as the expert on EU rules you will know that only serious criminals can currently be banned. This would not include the Romanian Shoplifting gangs. That annoys so many ordinary people.
If this is your response to reports such as this then I thank my lucky stars that people of the calibre of yourself are remainers/rejoiners as with you on their side Britain will never ever ever ever rejoin the EU.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/home ... 20the%20UK
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/re ... ave-claims
"Question: The Vote Leave campaign has published a dossier of 50 dangerous citizens from EU states, including murderers and rapists, who have been allowed into Britain. It says this is evidence that the UK is “unable to prevent dangerous individuals from walking into the country” while it remains in the trade bloc. Is there any truth in this?
Answer: It is simply not the case that, as Nigel Farage has claimed, “we can’t stop people like this entering the country”. The EU’s 2004 citizenship directive makes it clear that the free movement of people within the EU is not an unqualified right and can be restricted on grounds of “public policy, public security or public health”. This means that serious offenders
can be denied entry and the right to live in Britain.
However, the directive does say “previous criminal convictions shall not in themselves constitute grounds for taking such measures”, but adds that convicted criminals can be excluded on a case-by-case basis if they present “a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests of society”
Q: So if convicted criminals are not automatically excluded, aren’t the leave campaigners right to say that murderers and rapists will be allowed in?
A: No. As Steve Peers, a professor of EU law at Essex University, has pointed out, they could be refused entry and it is hard to imagine any British judge or the European court of justice overturning that decision in cases involving such serious crimes. As the former Conservative immigration and policing minister Damian Green has said, nearly 6,000 European Economic Area nationals have been prevented from entering Britain since 2010."