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Peaking prior to world cups is something NZ used to specialize at.

Brutal end for Schmidt, Best, Murray, Sexton and Kearney.

They deserved better.

Well I had to run off after the final whistle to referee and just got to sit down.

First of all, commiserations Irishers, that must've been hard to watch but maybe no all that unexpected given the run in.

That said, the All Blacks were pretty irresistible in the first half, some really nice offloads and just nailed points each time they were on offer, much like England.

Look forward to analysing it a bit more, very happy though.

Great lead up with the Swarm on here, shame on you lot putting the boot in.

paddyor wrote:So gutted, Shite way for Besty to bow out. Been stuffing my face with Kobe beef for the past hour. It doesn’t really help. Fair dues to the kiwi fans( and the rest) here, been good winners to a man and good craic before too This place is really different to the real world. Though I should add I haven’t read the match thread. The spite is really just this place.

Actually some of the boks fans are cunts FYI. Just them

It’s one of those games where the little offloads all connected. The score did not do the Irish justice. They were just unlucky the ABs hit that level, and the pressure showed.

I’m not getting ahead of myself, games can easily go in any direction, and i doubt the zoo will be complacent even given the outcome today.

I’m just relieved we avoided a big banana skin.

ABs were very good (but not their awesome best), Ireland were shite! Ireland Plan A was “cut back into the forwards”. When they got smashed like cheap glass, there was no Plan B. Schmidt blew it.

JM2K6 wrote:Very, very impressive by NZ. Clear favourites for the whole thing, let alone the England match. I'd hope England would front up more on the gain line though.

Ireland were absolute muck. A team carrying the zombie facsimiles of good players. Phantom versions of Murray, Sexton, Stander, Kearney, O'Mahony, et al. This has been coming for over a year now.

Things looked bad in the 6N, looked worse when England annihilated them in the warm-up, and dreadful when Japan embarrassed them.

THIS!!
NZ have to be careful now. Ireland may have done a Scotland today.

earl the beaver wrote:

ScarfaceClaw wrote:

earl the beaver wrote:I'll take the moral victory for not having any woman beaters in the line up.

What a cunt of a comment.

Don't pick any woman beaters if you don't want the comments then.

Earl, I hope that you posted that in the "heat of battle" with extreme disappointment clouding your judgement.

If not, you are an arsehole of a man. Ignore you go - I hope you don't have a good life

I think the most relieving thing after this result is the Air New Zealand safety video didn't come back to bite us in the arse


Can you imagine the ribbing we'd get?

Yourmother wrote:

JM2K6 wrote:Very, very impressive by NZ. Clear favourites for the whole thing, let alone the England match. I'd hope England would front up more on the gain line though.

Ireland were absolute muck. A team carrying the zombie facsimiles of good players. Phantom versions of Murray, Sexton, Stander, Kearney, O'Mahony, et al. This has been coming for over a year now.

Things looked bad in the 6N, looked worse when England annihilated them in the warm-up, and dreadful when Japan embarrassed them.

Pretty poor taste post. Aside from the first paragraph, everything sounds like you’re downplaying Ireland in desperation.

Nah, he's right.

Very impressed with our defence early on, the Irish were getting smashed behind the gain line.

A few issues for next week (not quite as clinical when given multiple opportunities, the reserve props went backwards, some ropey kicking) but still encouraging.

Read had his best game since the first Lions test. He or Snecky would have been my MOTM

Well that result put a damper on this thread. It had high promise but the 2015 RWC Final thread still reigns supreme

Nice one from Guinness

This is the thing I kind of don't like about the world cup and feel for Schmidt and Ireland, the All Black forwards played more direct than they have in four years. If you're Schmidt how they hell are you meant to prepare for something you haven't seen in four years? Ireland looked rocked by the AB forwards punching hard and making big metres close to the ruck early on and when they did have the ball the All Blacks rushed out of the line to make spot tackles which they haven't really done for a couple of years either. Once the All Blacks got out to an early lead it looked game over mentally for Ireland, clearly the game plan they had was not going to work and they had no plan B.

The All Blacks will have shown their hand a bit now and England will at least have a bit of time to prepare for a different style but then Hansen might change it up yet again.

Diageo own Carlesburg.

The All Blacks will have shown their hand a bit now and England will at least have a bit of time to prepare for a different style

So - we've looked at them too.

Question is (for both sides) do you change a winning formula?

Don't think Ireland were that bad.

They were just massively one dimensional and had no plan B

Not sure why anyone has an issue with people disparaging an organisation for promoting an employee found guilty of domestic violence.

Sure, "they are assisting with his rehabilitation and improvement as a human being" is an acceptable approach, but so is "why are you still employing a cowardly wife-beater in a very public role that will see him idolised by impressionable children (again)?".

As an All Black fan, I myself prefer the latter approach.

It's hardly a cunt of an attitude.

Dark wrote:Don't think Ireland were that bad.

They were just massively one dimensional and had no plan B

I do unfortunately. Sefton was a shadow of the man who led the Lions around the park. Too many unforced errors. Poor kicks into acres of space, poor kick chase (when England put the ball up against Oz there'd be 3 white shirts arriving with the ball), never able to get any width in attack, inability to take advantage of the errors the ABs did make. That try at the end with Jordie in all that space... when Ireland had the extra man? There will be sterner tests for the ABs.

Big ups to the bookies who had Ireland over four dollars.

Flockwitt wrote:

Dark wrote:Don't think Ireland were that bad.

They were just massively one dimensional and had no plan B

I do unfortunately. Sefton was a shadow of the man who led the Lions around the park. Too many unforced errors. Poor kicks into acres of space, poor kick chase (when England put the ball up against Oz there'd be 3 white shirts arriving with the ball), never able to get any width in attack, inability to take advantage of the errors the ABs did make. That try at the end with Jordie in all that space... when Ireland had the extra man? There will be sterner tests for the ABs.

Sefton couldn’t lead a dog around the park, let alone the Lions.

Sexton on the other hand...

Flockwitt wrote:

Dark wrote:Don't think Ireland were that bad.

They were just massively one dimensional and had no plan B

I do unfortunately. Sefton was a shadow of the man who led the Lions around the park. Too many unforced errors. Poor kicks into acres of space, poor kick chase (when England put the ball up against Oz there'd be 3 white shirts arriving with the ball), never able to get any width in attack, inability to take advantage of the errors the ABs did make. That try at the end with Jordie in all that space... when Ireland had the extra man? There will be sterner tests for the ABs.

Does Sexton autocorrect to Sefton on your phone?

BlueThunder wrote:This is the thing I kind of don't like about the world cup and feel for Schmidt and Ireland, the All Black forwards played more direct than they have in four years. If you're Schmidt how they hell are you meant to prepare for something you haven't seen in four years? Ireland looked rocked by the AB forwards punching hard and making big metres close to the ruck early on and when they did have the ball the All Blacks rushed out of the line to make spot tackles which they haven't really done for a couple of years either. Once the All Blacks got out to an early lead it looked game over mentally for Ireland, clearly the game plan they had was not going to work and they had no plan B.

The All Blacks will have shown their hand a bit now and England will at least have a bit of time to prepare for a different style but then Hansen might change it up yet again.

England put 57 points on virtually the same Ireland side only a couple of months ago.

message #2527204 wrote:

BlueThunder wrote:This is the thing I kind of don't like about the world cup and feel for Schmidt and Ireland, the All Black forwards played more direct than they have in four years. If you're Schmidt how they hell are you meant to prepare for something you haven't seen in four years? Ireland looked rocked by the AB forwards punching hard and making big metres close to the ruck early on and when they did have the ball the All Blacks rushed out of the line to make spot tackles which they haven't really done for a couple of years either. Once the All Blacks got out to an early lead it looked game over mentally for Ireland, clearly the game plan they had was not going to work and they had no plan B.

The All Blacks will have shown their hand a bit now and England will at least have a bit of time to prepare for a different style but then Hansen might change it up yet again.

England put 57 points on virtually the same Ireland side only a couple of months ago.

A couple of months ago in rugby is a lifetime, heck, a week is a lifetime.

rugga. wrote:

message #2527204 wrote:

BlueThunder wrote:This is the thing I kind of don't like about the world cup and feel for Schmidt and Ireland, the All Black forwards played more direct than they have in four years. If you're Schmidt how they hell are you meant to prepare for something you haven't seen in four years? Ireland looked rocked by the AB forwards punching hard and making big metres close to the ruck early on and when they did have the ball the All Blacks rushed out of the line to make spot tackles which they haven't really done for a couple of years either. Once the All Blacks got out to an early lead it looked game over mentally for Ireland, clearly the game plan they had was not going to work and they had no plan B.

The All Blacks will have shown their hand a bit now and England will at least have a bit of time to prepare for a different style but then Hansen might change it up yet again.

England put 57 points on virtually the same Ireland side only a couple of months ago.

A couple of months ago in rugby is a lifetime, heck, a week is a lifetime.

Just saying

Toro wrote:

Spoiler: show

Watching both games the difference in intensity between England in their game and the ABs is quite large.

England let in a few soft tries, Koroibete was toying with their back 3 all day

Couch wrote:England let in a few soft tries

Did they?

Leinsterman wrote:

Flockwitt wrote:

Dark wrote:Don't think Ireland were that bad.

They were just massively one dimensional and had no plan B

I do unfortunately. Sefton was a shadow of the man who led the Lions around the park. Too many unforced errors. Poor kicks into acres of space, poor kick chase (when England put the ball up against Oz there'd be 3 white shirts arriving with the ball), never able to get any width in attack, inability to take advantage of the errors the ABs did make. That try at the end with Jordie in all that space... when Ireland had the extra man? There will be sterner tests for the ABs.

Does Sexton autocorrect to Sefton on your phone?

wish it was deliberate but it's finger autotype.

naki wrote:

Couch wrote:England let in a few soft tries

Did they?

Daly’s flapping and waving was something to behold.

naki wrote:

Couch wrote:England let in a few soft tries

Did they?

Koroibete ran around them like a grown up does against kids

Watched this in the pub last night. Probably had a pint or two more than I should have so I'm a bit slow this morning.

Commiserations Ireland, but what a game. While I was reasonably confident that we were more likely to win than not, I was not expecting that at all. Ireland looked shell shocked 10 minutes in and never really recovered. Although credit where credit is due, they kept trying to get back into the game, or to at least selvage some pride towards the end.

As an All Black fan I endured 24 years of world cup disappointment, so have some idea of what you may be experiencing. The sun comes up the following day and you realize that life is still pretty good and that rugby is just a game.

Couch wrote:

naki wrote:

Couch wrote:England let in a few soft tries

Did they?

Koroibete ran around them like a grown up does against kids

Was a well taken try, hardly “soft”.

Fat Old Git wrote:Watched this in the pub last night. Probably had a pint or two more than I should have so I'm a bit slow this morning.

Commiserations Ireland, but what a game. While I was reasonably confident that we were more likely to win than not, I was not expecting that at all. Ireland looked shell shocked 10 minutes in and never really recovered. Although credit where credit is due, they kept trying to get back into the game, or to at least selvage some pride towards the end.

As an All Black fan I endured 24 years of world cup disappointment, so have some idea of what you may be experiencing. The sun comes up the following day and you realize that life is still pretty good and that rugby is just a game.

We were dire, FOG and only scored becsuse you had already won. On the two occasions we did score, you replied in kind, with very little effort. I'm sure the pints were delicious. Congrats

naki wrote:

Couch wrote:England let in a few soft tries

Did they?

England certainly scored a couple.

Ireland just shit the bed.
Scotland shit the bed against Ireland for the full 80.
England shit the bed 2nd half against Scotland in the 6N

Pretty much every team occasionally shits the bed but I don’t think NZ ever has really. 99 v France maybe but that was more French awesomeness tbf. 07 I Guess is the closest you could say I guess if you were being harsh.

Toro wrote:

Spoiler: show

Class, why does Read have to always come across as a fantastic guy on top of everything else ? What a cnut

18ChinsOfChinatown wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:Watched this in the pub last night. Probably had a pint or two more than I should have so I'm a bit slow this morning.

Commiserations Ireland, but what a game. While I was reasonably confident that we were more likely to win than not, I was not expecting that at all. Ireland looked shell shocked 10 minutes in and never really recovered. Although credit where credit is due, they kept trying to get back into the game, or to at least selvage some pride towards the end.

As an All Black fan I endured 24 years of world cup disappointment, so have some idea of what you may be experiencing. The sun comes up the following day and you realize that life is still pretty good and that rugby is just a game.

We were dire, FOG and only scored becsuse you had already won. On the two occasions we did score, you replied in kind, with very little effort. I'm sure the pints were delicious. Congrats

Cheers Chins. The pints were indeed delicious. They had the Cassels milk stout on tap which seemed a fitting drop for the occasion.

ticketlessinseattle wrote:

Toro wrote:

Spoiler: show

Class, why does Read have to always come across as a fantastic guy on top of everything else ? What a cnut

If you are truly upset about this, go watch his countless yellow card offenses he wasn't pinged for

Edit: Lovely gesture and picture