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Thought you played well for the first ten minutes and then the first two minutes of the second half :thumbup:
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Sad to see how far australia have fallen really. Not good enough in the front five. Half backs were shyte.
Whos in line to take over from cheiks?
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I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
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rageagainstthemachine wrote:Sad to see how far australia have fallen really. Not good enough in the front five. Half backs were shyte.
Whos in line to take over from cheiks?
I didn't think Oz's front 5 were bad, England's where exceptional however.
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Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Sun Tzu is irrelevant. I look forward to a loud, braying ha ha ha has against rageagainstthemachine when England next fail, tho'.
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Commiserations Wallaby fans.
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eldanielfire wrote:
rageagainstthemachine wrote:Sad to see how far australia have fallen really. Not good enough in the front five. Half backs were shyte.
Whos in line to take over from cheiks?
I didn't think Oz's front 5 were bad, England's where exceptional however.
Yeah I thought our tight five were pretty good there
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Hard luck Aussies, not your day today.
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And got terrified whenever Pocock was near the beakdown. He is immovable!
Your scrum is also well sorted looking forward.
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PCPhil wrote:And got terrified whenever Pocock was near the beakdown. He is immovable!
Your scrum is also well sorted looking forward.
Our scrum has been good for 4 years now.
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Thomas wrote:
PCPhil wrote:And got terrified whenever Pocock was near the beakdown. He is immovable!
Your scrum is also well sorted looking forward.
Our scrum has been good for 4 years now.
True
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Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
I agree, his comment is twattish and not representative of the rest of us.
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Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
this

thought Aus were dangerous throughout - only after Watson's try did I start to relax a bit

and as much as I hate the whinging prick, I do feel bad for Cheika a bit - he clearly isn't in the job to steal a living or to enhance his prospects of getting another, more prestigious role. his players want to play for him, just think he's not tactically the shrewdest coach, his sides rely too much on the emotional blood-and-thunder approach that his personality brings out
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Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Oh. He's one of those inbred cousin fuckers.

Rightio.
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I was not comfortable, really, until the very last try. Aus showed the ability to score at any time, and the ambition to go with it.
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MungoMan wrote:
Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Sun Tzu is irrelevant. I look forward to a loud, braying ha ha ha has against rageagainstthemachine when England next fail, tho'.
Yes i will also be ha ha ha ing when that happens.
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Bricking it until the last 5 mins, Aus were that dangerous
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Thomas wrote:
PCPhil wrote:And got terrified whenever Pocock was near the beakdown. He is immovable!
Your scrum is also well sorted looking forward.
Our scrum has been good for 4 years now.
Agreed. I mentioned it was very good before. I was surprised England's, which is good in a decent way, had a few big scrum shove wins in that 2nd half and once in the first.
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ChipSpike wrote:Bricking it until the last 5 mins, Aus were that dangerous
I felt comfortable when Farrell kicked it for 33 points, i thought 3 scores, 2 covered in 12 minutes or so was unlikely.
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rageagainstthemachine wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Sun Tzu is irrelevant. I look forward to a loud, braying ha ha ha has against rageagainstthemachine when England next fail, tho'.
Yes i will also be ha ha ha ing when that happens.
I fúcked that one up, didn't I?

Apols for not realising you were a Scot. You sound and smell almost normal.
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MungoMan wrote:
rageagainstthemachine wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Sun Tzu is irrelevant. I look forward to a loud, braying ha ha ha has against rageagainstthemachine when England next fail, tho'.
Yes i will also be ha ha ha ing when that happens.
I fúcked that one up, didn't I?

Apols for not realising you were a Scot. You sound and smell almost normal.
Close. Irish, part time scot.
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rageagainstthemachine wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
rageagainstthemachine wrote:
MungoMan wrote:
Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
Sun Tzu is irrelevant. I look forward to a loud, braying ha ha ha has against rageagainstthemachine when England next fail, tho'.
Yes i will also be ha ha ha ing when that happens.
I fúcked that one up, didn't I?

Apols for not realising you were a Scot. You sound and smell almost normal.
Close. Irish, part time scot.
Every fella needs to have a hobby
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eldanielfire wrote:
ChipSpike wrote:Bricking it until the last 5 mins, Aus were that dangerous
I felt comfortable when Farrell kicked it for 33 points, i thought 3 scores, 2 covered in 12 minutes or so was unlikely.
Its that Scotland game haunting me
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Hard luck Aussies. I enjoyed your running rugby approach and it was in the balance well into the second half. Your exits and restarts released too much pressure and gave too many opportunities in the end. Sad way for Genia and Pocock to end their careers.
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Wendigo7 wrote:
Sefton wrote:I’d like to apologise for the cock of an OP, he is Cornish though so fundamentally belongs to the Welsh.
I agree, his comment is twattish and not representative of the rest of us.
I appreciate the sentiment fellas and I cant speak for all Australians but I'd like to think we're not that thin-skinned.

We can handle that. :thumbup: ;)

It's just a bit of ribbing and to be quite fair, totally accurate too. Congratulations to your team, NZ v Eng is going to be a cracker and you have every reason to feel hopeful.
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The only hard line was the English defence. :thumbup:
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Yeah....really sorry them and Argentina are knocked out
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The Optimist wrote:The only hard line was the English defence. :thumbup:
Tough as nails. Looking forward to see them play the All Blacks it will be a cracker.
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I’d think they might have a little bit more trouble with the AB’s attack .

The Wallaby forwards aren’t nearly the ball runners we have for a start.
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Having a shit coach is such a depressing thing to experience, and it lasts for years. I was always worried about Aussie because of their ability to attack at pace, but every time the camera cut to Cheika, I felt better. Why they decided upon a suicidal exit strategy and stuck with it all game against an England side who weren't bothered who had the ball as long as it was in Australia's half, I have absolutely no idea. The Australian players were playing uphill because the stubbornness of their coach tilted the whole game against them.
Having lived through the Andy Robinson years and the Lancaster implosion, I know what it's like to see your players screwed by your own coaching team, Looking forward to seeing what a tactically flexible Australia can do. The tight 5 is no longer a weakness and the cattle are still there in the backs. Commiserations Aussies and good luck going forward.
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The reason we have a shitty exit strategy is because we do not have enough decent kickers. Hodge is okay, but even he is a bit iffy. The rest are shite.
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wamberal99 wrote:The reason we have a shitty exit strategy is because we do not have enough decent kickers. Hodge is okay, but even he is a bit iffy. The rest are shite.
I dont agree with that.
Beale, DHP, Hodge, Toomua, Lilo, Maddock all have good boots.
Its just we decided Kerevi would be the only one to kick.
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Our 8-9-10 spine was just shit. Thats a key reason behind our loss.

Its the coaches fault, we had 4 years to assemble one. But no. Foley thrown away, Genia well past it, and the backrow never settled.
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Farva wrote:
wamberal99 wrote:The reason we have a shitty exit strategy is because we do not have enough decent kickers. Hodge is okay, but even he is a bit iffy. The rest are shite.
I dont agree with that.
Beale, DHP, Hodge, Toomua, Lilo, Maddock all have good boots.
Its just we decided Kerevi would be the only one to kick.

All have "good boots"? Not by the standards of the top teams.
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Sensible Stephen wrote:Our 8-9-10 spine was just shit. Thats a key reason behind our loss.

Its the coaches fault, we had 4 years to assemble one. But no. Foley thrown away, Genia well past it, and the backrow never settled.

Name some names. Who has been overlooked?
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We have had a different halves pairing for every game of this world cup.

And I just disagree with you on the kicking. Our backs can kick well. Folau and Foley couldnt. Kerevi, Koroibete and Kuridrani cant. But the others can
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Farva wrote:We have had a different halves pairing for every game of this world cup.

And I just disagree with you on the kicking. Our backs can kick well. Folau and Foley couldnt. Kerevi, Koroibete and Kuridrani cant. But the others can
We've had a poor kicking game for years. No decent 10 since Eton Flatley. Its been the massive missing key to any dominant backline since early 2000s and a blight that the game here can't produce one, NSW hasn't since Mark Ella which kind of says it all.
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wamberal99 wrote:
Sensible Stephen wrote:Our 8-9-10 spine was just shit. Thats a key reason behind our loss.

Its the coaches fault, we had 4 years to assemble one. But no. Foley thrown away, Genia well past it, and the backrow never settled.

Name some names. Who has been overlooked?
:? Where did i say anything about people being overlooked. Its about building a team, not playing different combinations every single game and never letting the team gel.

Pick a 10, any one, and build around their limitations.
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grievous wrote:
Farva wrote:We have had a different halves pairing for every game of this world cup.

And I just disagree with you on the kicking. Our backs can kick well. Folau and Foley couldnt. Kerevi, Koroibete and Kuridrani cant. But the others can
We've had a poor kicking game for years. No decent 10 since Eton Flatley. Its been the massive missing key to any dominant backline since early 2000s and a blight that the game here can't produce one, NSW hasn't since Mark Ella which kind of says it all.
When we played Foley at 10 and a back three of Folau, Naivalu and Korobeite we had no kicker.
When we had Foley doing the kicking we had no kicking game.
That doesnt mean we dont have a good kicking game now. We do. We have made dumb decisions like giving Foley the ball to kick.
But our guys can kick.
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eugenius wrote:I’d think they might have a little bit more trouble with the AB’s attack .

The Wallaby forwards aren’t nearly the ball runners we have for a start.
They're fine ball runners. I'm not sure who "we" are, but the Wallabies have good ball runners in the forwards.
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