All Blacks V England RWC Semi Final Match Thread.

kiwidutchie · Post by **kiwidutchie** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:28 pm

Date: 26 October 2019

Kickoff: 17:00 Local Time
21:00 NZDT
09:00 GMT

Venue:

Teams:

Referees:

Ref - Owens
ARs - Poite & Gauzere
TMO - Jonker

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:31 pm

Average thread. Should have left it to a pro for such an important clash. Title needs full honours too

dam0 · Post by **dam0** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:34 pm

75 pages prior to kickoff is a worthy target to aim
for.

TheSmurf · Post by **TheSmurf** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:40 pm

As still somewhat of a noob (Fu ck off tm), I agree. For a game like this, we need more info, past war results, atrocities, beauty pageant winners etc.

tc27 · Post by **tc27** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:41 pm

First RWC meeting since 1999 right?

Dark · Post by **Dark** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:46 pm

I'm quietly confident about this match, while still keeping my modest, self deprecating, quaint, all up "good bloke kiwi" charm.

naki · Post by **naki** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:52 pm

England have never beaten the ABs at the WC (including two losses at "HQ", which I believe stands for "Hubris Queens").

England have only won 1 of their last 15 tests against the ABs, just once in the last 15 years.

England are conceding 1.8 tries per test during this RWC cycle but are scoring 3.7 per test.

NZ are conceding 1.7 tries during that same cycle and are scoring 5.5 per test.

It shouldn't be close.

England by 4.

booze · Post by **booze** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:52 pm

tc27 wrote:First RWC meeting since 1999 right?

yes, was thinking that today. RWCs can be a littel repetitive, in the sense we seem to get a lot of the same fixtures regularly, unlike the football world cup.

This is a fixture we havent seen at a long time in a world cup with th added bonus of only one game between the two semi finalists in the last 5 years I think?

Its fitting that both sides are at the top of their game and would be worthy finalists and indeed winners. Its a true heavyweight clash.

f**king loving it!!

TheSmurf · Post by **TheSmurf** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:59 pm

naki wrote:England have never beaten the ABs at the WC (including two losses at "HQ", which I believe stands for "Hubris Queens").

England have only won 1 of their last 15 tests against the ABs, just once in the last 15 years.

England are conceding 1.8 tries per test during this RWC cycle but are scoring 3.7 per test.

NZ are conceding 1.7 tries during that same cycle and are scoring 5.5 per test.

It shouldn't be close.

England by 4.

There's a mathematical equation in there I can't wrap my head around

Willie Falloon · Post by **Willie Falloon** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:03 pm

A match worthy of a final.

2 best teams in the competition for me.

Dark · Post by **Dark** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:06 pm

Looking at the OP again.

If the outcome comes down to coolest rugby jerseys, the ABs would walk in to the win.

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:10 pm

mr bungle wrote:Average thread. Should have left it to a pro for such an important clash. Title needs full honours too

There are titans who have gone before him. Brave but I think ultimately wrong move. Will it affect the outcome? Time will tell

De Damp Slaphead · Post by **De Damp Slaphead** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:18 pm

1.10 onwards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uTP1fdFu0c

Ted. · Post by **Ted.** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:31 pm

Who do you want to be the ref and why?

Jaco please.

He's experienced, not infallible but usually unflappable and generally reasonable, and you can't ask more than that. As a back-up Nick Berry.

No Frogs please.

This could leave deep teeth marks on one's posterior.

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:32 pm

TheSmurf wrote:As still somewhat of a noob (Fu ck off tm), I agree. For a game like this, we need more info, past war results, atrocities, beauty pageant winners etc.

We'll never get to 75 pages before kick off if we put all that in the OP.

capt hurricane · Post by **capt hurricane** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:37 pm

In 2003, Australia lost the Bledisloe Cup, and they have not held the trophy since.

Now, who was the Wallabies coach in 2003 again?

tc27 · Post by **tc27** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:40 pm

Hopefully the second Kiwi semi final exit Mitchell is involved in.

BlueThunder · Post by **BlueThunder** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:42 pm

Pleased that we are playing England, we play Australia far too often.

Kahu · Post by **Kahu** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:48 pm

Cartman · Post by **Cartman** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:54 pm

capt hurricane wrote:In 2003, Australia lost the Bledisloe Cup, and they have not held the trophy since.

Now, who was the Wallabies coach in 2003 again?

Jesus Christ, Australia 16 years?
Tbf who would have won it in their place during that period?
Only 2009 Boks I guess?

Lord Denning · Post by **Lord Denning** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:56 pm

There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.

Sandstorm · Post by **Sandstorm** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:56 pm

We’re only halfway through the quarters and there’s a semi final thread? Disrespectful to the other side of the draw.

nuffsaid · Post by **nuffsaid** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:59 pm

If you guys would like to keep this fred bubbling along till I sober up a bit, that would be nice. Thanks

capt hurricane · Post by **capt hurricane** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:02 pm

nuffsaid wrote:If you guys would like to keep this fred bubbling along till I sober up a bit, that would be nice. Thanks

How long do you need? 48 hours or so I suspect.

The Man Without Fear · Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:05 pm

dam0 wrote:75 pages prior to kickoff is a worthy target to aim
for.

Now, now, none of us are Irish, I'm sure we can keep it to an acceptable 20 or so.

Ted. · Post by **Ted.** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:08 pm

tc27 wrote:Hopefully the second Kiwi semi final exit Mitchell is involved in.

Ted. · Post by **Ted.** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:10 pm

Lord Denning wrote:There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.

Hells bells man, that is abject baiting.

Lord Denning · Post by **Lord Denning** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:18 pm

Ted. wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.
Hells bells man, that is abject baiting.

I see it more as a complex blend of honesty, flat cap ‘umbleness and Mocker God appeasement.

capt hurricane · Post by **capt hurricane** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:22 pm

England practicing their on field positions for next weekend.

capt hurricane · Post by **capt hurricane** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:23 pm

Kahu wrote:

Fat Old Git · Post by **Fat Old Git** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:25 pm

Lord Denning wrote:
Ted. wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.
Hells bells man, that is abject baiting.
I see it more as a complex blend of honesty, flat cap ‘umbleness and Mocker God appeasement.

To hell with the Mocker Gods. They know I've put money on England to win and there isn't a damn thing they can do to stop me collecting.

kiwidutchie · Post by **kiwidutchie** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:31 pm

capt hurricane wrote:
Kahu wrote:

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:42 pm

What sorry little arguments will the English media try for this week?

Surely they can improve on the whingeing from the Scots (although to be fair theirs wasn't a bad effort considering we weren't even playing them) and the Irish.

Ted. · Post by **Ted.** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:46 pm

Lord Denning wrote:
Ted. wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.
Hells bells man, that is abject baiting.
I see it more as a complex blend of honesty, flat cap ‘umbleness and Mocker God appeasement.

Duly amended to abject appeasement.

And if you don't mind me saying, your cap looks ever so slightly self-righteous, even sneaky, at that angle.

Lord Denning · Post by **Lord Denning** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:52 pm

Ted. wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:
Ted. wrote:
Lord Denning wrote:There is a silver lining in facing NZ. It’s the sort of fixture that never happens in the 6N: England have no realistic chance of winning. Like supporting Richard Dunn fighting Muhammad Ali. So I’ve no anxiety about the result and can have a stress-free week. All I’m looking for is a creditable loss.

Congratulations All Blacks, on winning the semi-final, the final and another four years’ worth of grudging respect and admiration from all supporters of all other rugby nations.
Hells bells man, that is abject baiting.
I see it more as a complex blend of honesty, flat cap ‘umbleness and Mocker God appeasement.
Duly amended to abject appeasement.

And if you don't mind me saying, your cap looks ever so slightly self-righteous, even sneaky, at that angle.

Jaunty. The cap’s at a jaunty angle. Still flat though.

Masterji · Post by **Masterji** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:55 pm

Tight game in which no score would surprise. You can imagine England whacking the AB like they did in 2012, or you can imagine the AB taking England to the cleaners like they did to the Irish today, or a game that could end up going to extra time and a count back is done and a win to the team that scored the most boundaries.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:57 pm

Masterji wrote:Tight game in which no score would surprise. You can imagine England whacking the AB like they did in 2012, or you can imagine the AB taking England to the cleaners like they did to the Irish today, or a game that could end up going to extra time and a count back is done and a win to the team that scored the most boundaries.

We lose that one if the number of tries is identical

SickeninglyArrogantPerson · Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 pm

Kahu wrote:

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Fixed for accuracy. She's our head of state too. Cindy vs Boris would have been the right comparison.

BlueThunder · Post by **BlueThunder** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:59 pm

les@mooloolaba · Post by **les@mooloolaba** » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:01 am

I wonder when the Engish media will point out all the cheating the AB's have been doing at the RWC...