Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

HighKingLeinster · Post by **HighKingLeinster** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:19 pm

Flametop wrote:Anybody know how many seats you need to change the constitution?

Eh? Requires a referendum to change the constitution

crouchy · Post by **crouchy** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:20 pm

YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:Donnelly doing worse than Whitmore. Thank goodness, fcuking snake.
Good to hear.

It’ll be one bright spot if he doesn’t get elected. And a big kick in the stones to Fianna Fáil.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:20 pm

Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.

You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:22 pm

crouchy wrote:
YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:Donnelly doing worse than Whitmore. Thank goodness, fcuking snake.
Good to hear.
It’ll be one bright spot if he doesn’t get elected. And a big kick in the stones to Fianna Fáil.

Is Shane Ross gone? I hope so. Some solace for cûnty John Delaney.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:22 pm

Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.

Globally it's everywhere. We've seen all over the EU the status Quo being booted out or at least significantly rocked by anti-establishment parties.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:22 pm

HighKingLeinster wrote:
Flametop wrote:Anybody know how many seats you need to change the constitution?
Eh? Requires a referendum to change the constitution

Of course, our endless referenda.
How did I forget we aren’t Zimbabwe yet

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:23 pm

Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties

What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?

HighKingLeinster · Post by **HighKingLeinster** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:23 pm

YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:
YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:Donnelly doing worse than Whitmore. Thank goodness, fcuking snake.
Good to hear.
It’ll be one bright spot if he doesn’t get elected. And a big kick in the stones to Fianna Fáil.
Is Shane Ross gone? I hope so.

Yep Lord Stepaside has been dethroned

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:23 pm

YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:
YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:Donnelly doing worse than Whitmore. Thank goodness, fcuking snake.
Good to hear.
It’ll be one bright spot if he doesn’t get elected. And a big kick in the stones to Fianna Fáil.
Is Shane Ross gone? I hope so. Some solace for cûnty John Delaney.

Goose has been cooked.

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:24 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?

Who the fudge is saying that.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:24 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?

Yeah. Back in the 30s they were on the Franco side of the fence but today they re as liberal and centrist as you can get

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:25 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?

Spoiler: show

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:25 pm

Flametop wrote:
YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:
YOYO wrote:
crouchy wrote:Donnelly doing worse than Whitmore. Thank goodness, fcuking snake.
Good to hear.
It’ll be one bright spot if he doesn’t get elected. And a big kick in the stones to Fianna Fáil.
Is Shane Ross gone? I hope so. Some solace for cûnty John Delaney.
Goose has been cooked.

Good stuff.

eldanielfire · Post by **eldanielfire** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:26 pm

danthefan wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?
Who the fudge is saying that.

https://twitter.com/fenianlover69/statu ... 1060615169

I assumed it was like COrbyn is a literal terrorist supporter, you know, it would normally be total shit, but it's actually true.

Derwyn · Post by **Derwyn** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:26 pm

Yoyo will be happy at Sinn Fein doing so well.

etherman · Post by **etherman** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:27 pm

I was at a Q&A with local politicians in QUB about 10 years ago. John O'Dowd was on it for SF. He was asked what he thought could be the peak for SF electorally north and south. He said there was a copy of the electoral map from 1918 on their campign HQ wall and their mission was to surpass it. Everyone in the room (who knew the map) pissed themselves. O'Dowd waited for everyone to chill and said, "we arent joking." These fuckers wont see this as a peak, they'll see it as a start. And for those thinking theyll get into govt and fùck up, they might. But from their time in iffice here, where theyve fùcked up its been their past coming out of the wood work. In office they are generally very competent, across their briefs, voting disciplne a guarantee, always on message. Once they are in theyre very hard to shift, because their grassroots machine and constituency work tends to be very solid. And dont count on them going loony left and scaring away middle class voters. They know where the next step.forward in terms of votes will come from.

terryfinch · Post by **terryfinch** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:27 pm

YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.

Boxcar Ira · Post by **Boxcar Ira** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:28 pm

The worrying thing about that is SF still have a paramilitary wing. Twitter propaganda. The handle says it all

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:28 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:. Sounds like they are going the Corbyn free everything method of gaining youth popularity.
Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?

They're centre right. Who said they were fascist?

They're a business friendly party

Gavin Duffy · Post by **Gavin Duffy** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:28 pm

eldanielfire wrote:
danthefan wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
Nolanator wrote: Lots of parallels, for sure.
You see the likes of Owen Jones rowing in behind Sinners. Huge paralels except our underbelly are lefties as opposed to righties
What this about Fine Gael being literal fascists? Just twitter BS?
Who the fudge is saying that.
https://twitter.com/fenianlover69/statu ... 1060615169

I assumed it was like COrbyn is a literal terrorist supporter, you know, it would normally be total shit, but it's actually true.

Good to see you're as coherent as usual.

fishfoodie · Post by **fishfoodie** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:28 pm

YOYO wrote:
Flametop wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Hi lads,

As I know the UK press will only give horrible slanted angles on the Irish election, I'm curious to learn a few things.

1) Why is Sinn Fein so popular? They are the biggest party now or something?

2) Is Leo Varadkar going to remain Irish leader? My twitter says he's lost two counts which is bad, but may still be elected. What's this about?

3) What are the big policy differences?

4a) How close are Ireland's Sinn Fein to Norther Ireland's Sinn Fein?

4b) How terroristy are Sinn Fein now? How are their past not holding them back as an electoral force? Will the BBC have to block out their eyes and have a actor do a voice over at EU summits in the future? (this one is a joke)
1. Houses too expensive relative to income, healthcare is a disaster.

2. No, will be very lucky to remain as leader of his party Fine Gael.

3. Sinn Fein want to bankrupt the country giving away free houses and . Well free everything. As long as you don’t work.

4a. They both are the same, they support criminals and terrorists. They don’t like Special criminal courts that convict their members.

4b. Still criminals but woke millennials are turning a blind eye if they get a free house.
Your first point re. housing is really only true in relation to people living in Dublin. Maybe also touching on parts of Cork and Galway.

I think it's really easy for people of our generation to be blase about housing; & that's infuriating for people trying to buy their first home.

Yes the problem is worst in Dublin; but it's also our largest City, & where the jobs are; but the wages paid by those jobs are widely varying, so if you've two well paid incomes, you might be able to buy in Kildare or Meath, but if you aren't earning serious change, your fucked !

Blaming the last Government for this is ridiculous; it stemmed in the crash, when the construction industry got wiped out, & the supply of houses stopped for 5-6 years, & that's 300,000 houses that weren't built. Then add in that the Banks are now applying proper financial constraints on the amount people can borrow; & you've a problem that will take twenty years to unravel.

iarmhiman · Post by **iarmhiman** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:29 pm

terryfinch wrote:
YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.

That will learn us putting elections on a Saturday again

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 pm

Looks like a recount in Galway East. Shinner out but less than 200 votes in it.

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:30 pm

CM11 wrote:Looks like a recount in Galway East. Shinner out but less than 200 votes in it.

Is that the student?

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:31 pm

danthefan wrote:
CM11 wrote:Looks like a recount in Galway East. Shinner out but less than 200 votes in it.
Is that the student?

Yep.

danthefan · Post by **danthefan** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:32 pm

CM11 wrote:
danthefan wrote:
CM11 wrote:Looks like a recount in Galway East. Shinner out but less than 200 votes in it.
Is that the student?
Yep.

What a tragedy.

It honestly seems like people would have voted for inanimate carbon rods if they had SF stamped on them.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:33 pm

danthefan wrote:
CM11 wrote:
danthefan wrote:
CM11 wrote:Looks like a recount in Galway East. Shinner out but less than 200 votes in it.
Is that the student?
Yep.
What a tragedy.

Hold that thought until the recount is in.

Nolanator · Post by **Nolanator** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:33 pm

terryfinch wrote:
YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.

The party that would correspond to BNP are the National Party, who get fudge all votes. The EDF would be like proper loons like Gemma O'Doherty, who had a time vote share.

SF are not like the BNP or EDF. They mightn't be nice and have a history with terrorism, but there their own thing. It would be like the UVF winning a load of seats in England.

diarm · Post by **diarm** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:33 pm

terryfinch wrote:
YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.

I'm reminded of that Mitchell and Webb skit where your man begins to question whether or not they themselves are the bad guys.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:34 pm

DUP are the same thing.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:35 pm

Would anybody be voting for a united Ireland now?

HighKingLeinster · Post by **HighKingLeinster** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:36 pm

crouchy · Post by **crouchy** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:36 pm

I genuinely don’t understand how you can vote SF first preference then FG second preference.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:36 pm

That would be even more hilarious if it wasn’t true.

crouchy · Post by **crouchy** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 pm

Brid Smith of the looney left in.

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 pm

crouchy wrote:I genuinely don’t understand how you can vote SF first preference then FG second preference.

Says it all. How many did that?

EverReady · Post by **EverReady** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 pm

O'Snodaigh sorts Smith out and as Daly notes Smith's will go to Collins. Nightmare

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 pm

terryfinch wrote:
YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.

The political party Séin Féin are no more terrorist than the DUP. The party is not directly aligned to the IRA. The IRA aren’t heading up the party ffs. That’s the problem with your brutal media, they have the average Joe like you Terry brainwashed.

Flametop · Post by **Flametop** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:38 pm

CM11 wrote:
crouchy wrote:I genuinely don’t understand how you can vote SF first preference then FG second preference.
Says it all. How many did that?

Ah sure didn’t he get the clubhouse fixed..

CM11 · Post by **CM11** » Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:38 pm

YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:
YOYO wrote:
terryfinch wrote:What the hell just happened? You have one fuc*ed up political system.
You really need to look in the mirror!!

Well we don’t have a criminal/terrorist organisation as a political party, never mind it becoming the most popular in the country! The closest we have have I guess is English Defence League who don’t figure in elections at all.
The political party Séin Féin are no more terrorist than the DUP. The party is not directly aligned to the IRA. The IRA aren’t heading up the party ffs. That’s the problem with your brutal media, they have the average Joe like you Terry brainwashed.

Eh......

Who are you voting for