It’s actually a bit worse than that. Back in 2012/13(could be later) DCC passed planning regs for new build apartments among which was a requirement to make all apartments duel aspect sunlit. So all apartments had to have sun in the front and back. I think it was canned pretty quickly and there wasn’t much going on at the time (obviously ) but that’s the type of idea you can expect.CM11 wrote:One other thing that's always confused me when it's not mentioned is that SF controlled, as far as I know, Dublin City Council for years and did little to help. Is that just because the council is impotent?
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When Sinn Fein ran Dublin city council they spent plenty of sessions at City Hall discussing the Israel/Palestinian situation.
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Mullet 2 wrote:Polling showing FF voters heavily favour FG coalition.
RED C POLL
Coalition Preference:
Among Labour Party Voters:
FF+FG: 38%
SF+LEFT: 23%
SF+FF: 16%
None: 9%
Another Election: 14%
All potential coalitions had the inclusion of smaller parties/independents.
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That’s interesting bullet.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4011728
Pointless article really other than a little good publicity for Paul Murphy. Dublin buses are late and no shows all the time. What’s her point? It particularly affects pensioners and children - would you ever fudge off it affects anyone trying to get the bus including those scumbag employed people who, you know, keep the f**king lights on in this country.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4011728
Pointless article really other than a little good publicity for Paul Murphy. Dublin buses are late and no shows all the time. What’s her point? It particularly affects pensioners and children - would you ever fudge off it affects anyone trying to get the bus including those scumbag employed people who, you know, keep the f**king lights on in this country.
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As I said, last throw of the dice.EverReady wrote:The Shinners in power during a recession. Fück meCM11 wrote:It's not a stupid idea. It's a last throw of the dice. Another election now would be awful. 5 years is a long time.EverReady wrote:The grand coalition is a stupid idea. The Shinners will make hay and I am seeing fück all upside bar delaying the inevitable but this is completely outweighed by increasing their power. There is an article about the homeless lad who got pulled up in his tent on the canal. Desperate story but as we know their are beds for all the street homeless. The article ends like thisCM11 wrote:Hopefully it'll come to pass.Mullet 2 wrote:Polling showing FF voters heavily favour FG coalition.
Does that mean, by process of elimination, that not many FG voters want it? Given the 26% result in the Red C poll?
The Shinners must be quietly breaking their holes at this prospectThe incident occurred on the first day of the campaign and beneath a poster of Eoghan Murphy, the Housing Minister, on a lamppost beside the canal.
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If who get the Greens?CM11 wrote:If they get the Greens, they've plenty of votes.alliswell wrote:Will O'Fearghail be let at the Ceann Comhairle again? FF surely need him for the numbers. Can't see FG letting one of their number go for it and Howlin has ruled himself out already.
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
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I say give the keys to the Germans and ask them to govern us until we’re mature enough to be trusted with a democracy.
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Why do they have to be the largest party?alliswell wrote:If who get the Greens?CM11 wrote:If they get the Greens, they've plenty of votes.alliswell wrote:Will O'Fearghail be let at the Ceann Comhairle again? FF surely need him for the numbers. Can't see FG letting one of their number go for it and Howlin has ruled himself out already.
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
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The Germans who are having a political crisis because a regional CDU party used AfD votes to get into power ?Duff Paddy wrote:I say give the keys to the Germans and ask them to govern us until we’re mature enough to be trusted with a democracy.
That Germany ?
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It's good for optics.CM11 wrote:Why do they have to be the largest party?alliswell wrote:If who get the Greens?CM11 wrote:If they get the Greens, they've plenty of votes.alliswell wrote:Will O'Fearghail be let at the Ceann Comhairle again? FF surely need him for the numbers. Can't see FG letting one of their number go for it and Howlin has ruled himself out already.
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
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How much damage could SF do if they got into power for a year or so?
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nardol wrote:How much damage could SF do if they got into power for a year or so?

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/irel ... -0z9nllsg0
Good succinct article I read in the times today, only online on the UK one.
Good succinct article I read in the times today, only online on the UK one.
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Because he's a cúntiarmhiman wrote:Why is Eamon o Cuiv against a FG coalition but okay with a Sinn fein one?Mullet 2 wrote:Polling showing FF voters heavily favour FG coalition.
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I don't think it'd make a huge difference. Why would FG not want one of theirs going for it?alliswell wrote:It's good for optics.CM11 wrote:Why do they have to be the largest party?alliswell wrote:If who get the Greens?CM11 wrote:If they get the Greens, they've plenty of votes.alliswell wrote:Will O'Fearghail be let at the Ceann Comhairle again? FF surely need him for the numbers. Can't see FG letting one of their number go for it and Howlin has ruled himself out already.
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
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They'll still be in Government formation talks and losing another TD would weaken their hand and even if a grand coalition is formed with the Greens then the majority isn't a comfortable one. But they might be happy to take it, Bernard Durkan was on the radio last week pushing for it.CM11 wrote:I don't think it'd make a huge difference. Why would FG not want one of theirs going for it?alliswell wrote:It's good for optics.CM11 wrote:Why do they have to be the largest party?alliswell wrote: If who get the Greens?
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
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More Argentina than East Germany methinks.nardol wrote:How much damage could SF do if they got into power for a year or so?
Sinn Féin are much more corporatist than communist, and like Peron did to Argentina when it was the richest country per capita in the world, SF would beggar Ireland to fund their community dreams.
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84 is a comfortable if not overwhelming majority.alliswell wrote:They'll still be in Government formation talks and losing another TD would weaken their hand and even if a grand coalition is formed with the Greens then the majority isn't a comfortable one. But they might be happy to take it, Bernard Durkan was on the radio last week pushing for it.CM11 wrote:I don't think it'd make a huge difference. Why would FG not want one of theirs going for it?alliswell wrote:It's good for optics.CM11 wrote:Why do they have to be the largest party?alliswell wrote: If who get the Greens?
FF need O'Fearghail to be the largest party and I may be wrong on this but I think a CC needs to be elected at the first sitting in a week or two.
Sure, it'd be better to get the extra votes with a Labour or other Ceann Comhairle but not a massive difference.
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No mention of the fact that all transport companies are subject to fines and receive them, including BE and DB.Duff Paddy wrote:That’s interesting bullet.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4011728
Pointless article really other than a little good publicity for Paul Murphy. Dublin buses are late and no shows all the time. What’s her point? It particularly affects pensioners and children - would you ever fudge off it affects anyone trying to get the bus including those scumbag employed people who, you know, keep the f**king lights on in this country.
The "story" is straight from RBB, it's a disgrace that she can write whatever she likes.
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Appealing to the Celtic vote.iarmhiman wrote:When Sinn Fein ran Dublin city council they spent plenty of sessions at City Hall discussing the Israel/Palestinian situation.
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It's not enough that the Irish state bailed out bankrupt Irish banks to prevent contagion to bankrupt German banks, thereby crippling our nation to huge debt. Now they want us to give Germany what remains of Irish sovereignty too.camroc1 wrote:The Germans who are having a political crisis because a regional CDU party used AfD votes to get into power ?Duff Paddy wrote:I say give the keys to the Germans and ask them to govern us until we’re mature enough to be trusted with a democracy.
That Germany ?
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Neil Francis today is worth reading.
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Would Verona Murphy tend to support FG despite being deselected?
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I'd say the amount of checkered scarf freaks in those meetings was a sight.Blackrock Bullet wrote:Appealing to the Celtic vote.iarmhiman wrote:When Sinn Fein ran Dublin city council they spent plenty of sessions at City Hall discussing the Israel/Palestinian situation.
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We'll see this week I suppose. First meeting on Thursday.CM11 wrote:84 is a comfortable if not overwhelming majority.alliswell wrote:They'll still be in Government formation talks and losing another TD would weaken their hand and even if a grand coalition is formed with the Greens then the majority isn't a comfortable one. But they might be happy to take it, Bernard Durkan was on the radio last week pushing for it.CM11 wrote:I don't think it'd make a huge difference. Why would FG not want one of theirs going for it?alliswell wrote: It's good for optics.
Sure, it'd be better to get the extra votes with a Labour or other Ceann Comhairle but not a massive difference.
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It's a pity the Indo has gone premium. Too little, too late
Sinn Fein is the country's most popular party, with 120,000 votes to spare. Those who voted for the republicans in their droves are concerned with the pressing issues of the present, such as housing.
The TDs they propelled into Leinster House say they are focused on the future. Yet several key figures who spent the past four years setting Sinn Fein on its path to success are part of its troubled past. They are considered key backroom figures in republican politics in Northern Ireland but, Sinn Fein being an all-Ireland party, their influence has extended on this side of the Border, too.
Sean Hughes is a former IRA commander from South Armagh who was reputedly a close associate of Thomas 'Slab' Murphy and is known as The Surgeon. He has been a key organiser for Sinn Fein. When turbulence broke out over allegations of intimidation, bullying and excessive control in several regional branches of the party, Hughes was one of those drafted in to smooth things over.
Another Northern man who was drafted in to settle internal disputes was Brian Tumilty, a key SF election strategist originally from Newry. He presided with two others on an internal panel in a dispute in Wicklow that resulted in three councillors being expelled. He was convicted in the early 1980s for possession of one of the weapons suspected of having been used in the Kingsmill massacre in 1976.
Martin Lynch is an ex-IRA prisoner and a former driver for Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness, who served as SF's head of human resources. His responsibilities included ensuring that staff and TDs paid themselves the average industrial wage and "volunteered" the rest to the party - including those working in Leinster House. (A policy that has since changed in 2016).
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Bobby Storey, another former IRA figure from Belfast, is often referred to as a key part of Sinn Fein's kitchen cabinet in Belfast. The reach of his political influence in the Republic emerged during the controversy over Mairia Cahill's allegations that her IRA abuser was shielded by the republican movement. Storey emailed instruction to SF's elected representatives north and south of the Border on Mairia Cahill: "At a wider level, party activists should refrain from making any comment on social media sites or in any other way around the issue of the sexual abuse of Mairia Cahill. Such comments are both inappropriate and elements of the media will attempt to misuse or misinterpret any comment - as has already happened." Not one veered from his diktat. Sinn Fein's critics claimed the memo showed how the party's elected representatives take their orders from an unelected shadowy figure behind the scenes.
Padraic Wilson, from West Belfast, is another influential member of Sinn Fein's Northern kitchen cabinet. He was sentenced to 24 years for explosives offences in the early 1990s but released under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement. He was accused of presiding over an internal tribunal into Mairia Cahill's allegations against an IRA member. His involvement with the party is among the reasons Fianna Fail cited for refusing to enter into a coalition with Sinn Fein.
Ted Howell, who is in his early 70s and from Belfast, is a highly influential republican, a Sinn Fein negotiator over 20 years, and one of Gerry Adams's closest advisers. He kept out of the spotlight, even in Stormont. But his name has worked its way into political discourse not just in Stormont, but in Leinster House when he was cited as "evidence" that Sinn Fein takes its orders from unelected representatives. Emails disclosed to an inquiry into the "cash for ash" scandal in the North showed how the SF finance minister there, Martin O Muilleoir, emailed Howell to ask if he was "content" that he "sign off the business plan on Wednesday". "That is documentary evidence that Sinn Fein ministers seek approval and consent from 'senior republicans' when it comes to major decisions in government," Leo Varadkar said in the Dail.
During the election campaign, Fianna Fail leader Micheal Martin said he "could never be sure" who he was dealing with were he to go into government with Sinn Fein. "Is it unelected officials in Belfast who rule the roost, who control the levers of power within that party?"
SF insists this is nonsense while Mary Lou McDonald famously declared: "Nobody's pulling my strings." The party has, on several occasions, welcomed former IRA prisoners into the SF fold, precisely because they have embraced the peace process.
When the party's Waterford poll-topper, David Cullinane, apologised for declaring "up the Republic, up the 'Ra and Tiocfaidh ar La" at a late-night victory speech, he said his comments were about the past, not the future: "The IRA is gone as everybody knows."
It is a little over four years since a report by the Police Service of Northern Ireland and MI5 found that a slimmed-down army council still existed and suggested that it held sway over Sinn Fein. "PIRA members believe that the Provisional army council oversees both PIRA and Sinn Fein with an overarching strategy - we judge this strategy has a wholly political focus."
Four months ago, the PSNI said its assessment of the relationship between the IRA and Sinn Fein "had not changed".
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I didn't see that story but that is her all over. Her editors are scumbags that they allow a press officer pretend they are a journalist. Everybody knows Breda is Iona's mouthpiece why isn't it explicitly stated she is a TrotskyistBlackrock Bullet wrote:No mention of the fact that all transport companies are subject to fines and receive them, including BE and DB.Duff Paddy wrote:That’s interesting bullet.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4011728
Pointless article really other than a little good publicity for Paul Murphy. Dublin buses are late and no shows all the time. What’s her point? It particularly affects pensioners and children - would you ever fudge off it affects anyone trying to get the bus including those scumbag employed people who, you know, keep the f**king lights on in this country.
The "story" is straight from RBB, it's a disgrace that she can write whatever she likes.
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What he say?Miguel Indurain wrote:Neil Francis today is worth reading.
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Franics referenced a podcast done by Eamonn Dunply, in which Dunphy interviewed Sam McBride.
McBride has written a book about the cash for ash scandal in NI.
Apparently the podcast and the book make reference to Mairtin O'Muilleoir, SF Minister for Finance during the previous assembly.
Emails and documentation in the book indicate that O'Muilleoir had to get consent, approval, from people either close to the "army council" or people who are on the "army council" about the funding situation.
Francis asks the reasonable question : who is in charge? A minister or the "army council"
Here's a link to the podcast
https://www.thestandwitheamondunphy.com/
McBride has written a book about the cash for ash scandal in NI.
Apparently the podcast and the book make reference to Mairtin O'Muilleoir, SF Minister for Finance during the previous assembly.
Emails and documentation in the book indicate that O'Muilleoir had to get consent, approval, from people either close to the "army council" or people who are on the "army council" about the funding situation.
Francis asks the reasonable question : who is in charge? A minister or the "army council"
Here's a link to the podcast
https://www.thestandwitheamondunphy.com/
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I see tin tin has taken to writing bollocks for the guardian.
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Dunphy is such a wanker, he was supporting Sinn Féin a couple of years ago because it was nice and edgy but has now reverted to calling them out.
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Just read his article. So the success of Globalisation is why populism is risingGavin Duffy wrote:I see tin tin has taken to writing bollocks for the guardian.
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Yeah , he made sure to keep saying how much he respected them on the tonight show the other night. He is such a prick. A 73? yr old man. Why are the media still entertaining him.Blackrock Bullet wrote:Dunphy is such a wanker, he was supporting Sinn Féin a couple of years ago because it was nice and edgy but has now reverted to calling them out.
I know the answer to that. Dont bother.
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Here are the same points made in an article written for the Irish Times on the Thursday before the election. To save anyone having to listen to Eamon Dunphy.Miguel Indurain wrote:Franics referenced a podcast done by Eamonn Dunply, in which Dunphy interviewed Sam McBride.
McBride has written a book about the cash for ash scandal in NI.
Apparently the podcast and the book make reference to Mairtin O'Muilleoir, SF Minister for Finance during the previous assembly.
Emails and documentation in the book indicate that O'Muilleoir had to get consent, approval, from people either close to the "army council" or people who are on the "army council" about the funding situation.
Francis asks the reasonable question : who is in charge? A minister or the "army council"
Here's a link to the podcast
https://www.thestandwitheamondunphy.com/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... 0?mode=amp
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Last thing I read from Tin Tin was that PR/puff piece he did for SF.iarmhiman wrote:Just read his article. So the success of Globalisation is why populism is risingGavin Duffy wrote:I see tin tin has taken to writing bollocks for the guardian.
Say the title of his article lately (I think) calling Mary Lou a woman of mystery.
Has he always been a closet Shinner?
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Mullet 2 wrote:Because he's a cúntiarmhiman wrote:Why is Eamon o Cuiv against a FG coalition but okay with a Sinn fein one?Mullet 2 wrote:Polling showing FF voters heavily favour FG coalition.

Ive been gone for a while drinking gin, but how has it come to this. Sinn Féin's policies must be the weakest pile of shit going.
Dear Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, sort it out you prícks.
For reference, I'm a low paid nordie in finglas with a soft nationalist viewpoint. Hoped for a FG Greens coalition.
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Very little of our banks debt was with German banks FFS. We bailed out the banks to maintain our reputation as a place to do business, and given the alternative it was cheap at the price.Miguel Indurain wrote:It's not enough that the Irish state bailed out bankrupt Irish banks to prevent contagion to bankrupt German banks, thereby crippling our nation to huge debt. Now they want us to give Germany what remains of Irish sovereignty too.camroc1 wrote:The Germans who are having a political crisis because a regional CDU party used AfD votes to get into power ?Duff Paddy wrote:I say give the keys to the Germans and ask them to govern us until we’re mature enough to be trusted with a democracy.
That Germany ?
Lastly the bulk of the crippling debt was taken on by the state to fund public services.
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Saw him speak at an event a few years ago, the whole thing was basically how much he disliked Ireland.Blackrock Bullet wrote:Dunphy is such a wanker, he was supporting Sinn Féin a couple of years ago because it was nice and edgy but has now reverted to calling them out.
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Take out Anglo Irish and look at the aib and boi bailouts and Ireland will come out of it with a small profit.paddyor wrote:Very little of our banks debt was with German banks FFS. We bailed out the banks to maintain our reputation as a place to do business, and given the alternative it was cheap at the price.Miguel Indurain wrote:It's not enough that the Irish state bailed out bankrupt Irish banks to prevent contagion to bankrupt German banks, thereby crippling our nation to huge debt. Now they want us to give Germany what remains of Irish sovereignty too.camroc1 wrote:The Germans who are having a political crisis because a regional CDU party used AfD votes to get into power ?Duff Paddy wrote:I say give the keys to the Germans and ask them to govern us until we’re mature enough to be trusted with a democracy.
That Germany ?
Lastly the bulk of the crippling debt was taken on by the state to fund public services.
The anglo bankers committed fraud.
The real debt wracked up by the state was running a deficit while funding the public sector.