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Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:32 pm
by fishfoodie
Leinsterman wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:
Winnie wrote:There seems to be a lot of hatred for Leo on Twatter ( I know I know) where does it all come from he seems a decent spud really
He is elitist and doesn't connect with people.
Go to the UK if you want to see elitist politicians ffs there’s nothing elitist about him, do you want to show up in trackie smoking Johnny blues
Works for some of the SF lads anyway
With those lads it's spanish ciggies, with no customs stamp.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by rageagainstthemachine
Duff Paddy wrote:
Winnie wrote:There seems to be a lot of hatred for Leo on Twatter ( I know I know) where does it all come from he seems a decent spud really
It’s the way of social media. Mistruths and hatred. The world has become a fairly nasty place.
Yeah, ive been out of the country for a few years and not really been following the political scene but leo always struck me as a decent sort.
What can you say he has done wrong that a micheal martin or mary lou might do better?
Politics are such a farce. The country will keep on ticking over. lads getting too excited here. The civil servants are the fuckers that should be hammered.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by Mullet 2
rfurlong wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:Looks like I may have spoken too soon on Brennan in Dublin Rathdown

Makes fvck all difference though as it’s only swapping one centrist for another

Depressing day

FG won’t be doing business with the shinners obviously, and they won’t be doing C&S based on the thanks FF got for it

Only option is FF/SF which imo would kill FF stone dead (look what letting the fox into the chicken coop did to SDLP)

We might be better off doing a Belgium on this and letting FG act as caretaker government for long enough to see lots of housing get built and .... whisper it .... a crash out brexit that would bring the middle classes here back to their senses
Apology accepted ;)
Not sure he’ll make it ...... madigan won’t be missed if he does
I said he would be in the fight not that he'd definitely make it.

Be fair now!

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:33 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
How long to the border poll

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:35 pm
by crouchy
Mullet 2 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:Looks like I may have spoken too soon on Brennan in Dublin Rathdown

Makes fvck all difference though as it’s only swapping one centrist for another

Depressing day

FG won’t be doing business with the shinners obviously, and they won’t be doing C&S based on the thanks FF got for it

Only option is FF/SF which imo would kill FF stone dead (look what letting the fox into the chicken coop did to SDLP)

We might be better off doing a Belgium on this and letting FG act as caretaker government for long enough to see lots of housing get built and .... whisper it .... a crash out brexit that would bring the middle classes here back to their senses
Apology accepted ;)
Not sure he’ll make it ...... madigan won’t be missed if he does
I said he would be in the fight not that he'd definitely make it.

Be fair now!
Bit less smug today eh mully? ;)

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:35 pm
by Mullet 2
You can fúck off

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:36 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Right lads, Shinners running 42 candidates. Reckon they need at least 7 not to be elected to ensure FG and FF have more TDs so need a list of eliminated SF candidates to track it

Sorcha NicCormaic Dub rathdown
young lad in galway east
Dun Laoghaire

Any more that are def eliminated?

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:37 pm
by fishfoodie
Lazy Couch potato wrote:How long to the border poll
That's not down to us. It's up to NI

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Flametop
Surely we get to have a say in the matter also?

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Uncle Fester
fishfoodie wrote:
Lazy Couch potato wrote:How long to the border poll
That's not down to us. It's up to NI
And if the shinners push for it from Dublin, they'll make it less likely.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Botha Boy
HighKingLeinster wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Sometimes that high horse the irish like to ride on turns out to be a donkey. Before casting stones...maybe look in the mirror.
Somebody still bitter at his team being pumped yesterday
I really a bit old to be coming out, but I quite enjoyed riding those Welsh boys all weekend ... 8)

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by crouchy
Mullet 2 wrote:You can fúck off
Jaysus, you on the blob?

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by CM11
HighKingLeinster wrote:Right lads, Shinners running 42 candidates. Reckon they need at least 7 not to be elected to ensure FG and FF have more TDs so need a list of eliminated SF candidates to track it

Sorcha NicCormaic Dub rathdown
young lad in galway east
Dun Laoghaire

Any more that are def eliminated?
They've topped the poll in Clare but I wonder if they'll be transferred out of it?

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:39 pm
by Uncle Fester
Flametop wrote:Surely we get to have a say in the matter also?
Not directly no. That's the whole idea of the GFA.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by Leinster in London
Leinster in London wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:Louis O Hara. Think its East Galway
x(

I've just been looking at East Galway.
If FF get 130 transfers more than scum off FG then O'Hara finishes 4th in a 3 seater.
And so it turns out.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by CM11
fishfoodie wrote:
Lazy Couch potato wrote:How long to the border poll
That's not down to us. It's up to NI
No it's not.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by Gavin Duffy
fishfoodie wrote:
Lazy Couch potato wrote:How long to the border poll
That's not down to us. It's up to NI
Down to both sides.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Leinster in London wrote:
Leinster in London wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:Louis O Hara. Think its East Galway
x(

I've just been looking at East Galway.
If FF get 130 transfers more than scum off FG then O'Hara finishes 4th in a 3 seater.
And so it turns out.
Thank christ

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:40 pm
by Flametop
Uncle Fester wrote:
Flametop wrote:Surely we get to have a say in the matter also?
Not directly no. That's the whole idea of the GFA.
Might need to renegotiate it.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:44 pm
by rfurlong
Mullet 2 wrote:What is it about the human condition that is making the west push the self destruct button?
No matter how much economic growth a country experiences, there will always be people who are RELATIVELY less well off than the wealth creators

These people eventually come to the bizarre conclusion that the country is a failed state just because they don’t have the same things as the people who’ve taken all the risks and worked hard for their success

They then get duped by charlatans with easy answers ..... brexit, trump, sinn Fein ...... it’s the same all over

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:46 pm
by Nolanator
crouchy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:You can fúck off
Jaysus, you on the blob?
He's campaigned for FF for his whole adult life and now seen SF dominate the election, with FF likely to talk to them about coalition.

I'd forgive him for being on the rag.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:47 pm
by crouchy
Lads the difference is the loony left is starting to rally round one party rather than the usual rainbow coalition.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:47 pm
by Leinsterman
Is it my imagination or is the counting a lot slower this time around?

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:47 pm
by Uncle Fester
Flametop wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
Flametop wrote:Surely we get to have a say in the matter also?
Not directly no. That's the whole idea of the GFA.
Might need to renegotiate it.
The Good Friday Agreement states that consent for a united Ireland must be “freely and concurrently given” in both the North and the South of the island of Ireland. This is widely interpreted to mean that future border polls must be held in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland at the same time.
We could vote no (very unlikely) or not hold the poll at all I suppose.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:48 pm
by Winnie
It will take years to get a border poll sorted out
First thing is 50.01 is not sufficient brexit has shown us that and the Brexiters and remainers didn’t have fûcking mentalists with machine guns and bombs!

Then there have to be terms of this prospective unified Ireland
Flag, anthem, constitution, NHS all sorts of shit

Again it can’t be like brexit where you vote and then negotiations begin afterwards

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:50 pm
by Jumper
Winnie wrote:It will take years to get a border poll sorted out
First thing is 50.01 is not sufficient brexit has shown us that and the Brexiters and remainers didn’t have fûcking mentalists with machine guns and bombs!

Then there have to be terms of this prospective unified Ireland
Flag, anthem, constitution, NHS all sorts of shit

Again it can’t be like brexit where you vote and then negotiations begin afterwards
50.01 is what is required as per GFA.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:50 pm
by crouchy
Nolanator wrote:
crouchy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:You can fúck off
Jaysus, you on the blob?
He's campaigned for FF for his whole adult life and now seen SF dominate the election, with FF likely to talk to them about coalition.

I'd forgive him for being on the rag.
Yea fair enough but he was happy to give it out last night.

I still like mully. The right sort really.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:51 pm
by Nolanator
crouchy wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
crouchy wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:You can fúck off
Jaysus, you on the blob?
He's campaigned for FF for his whole adult life and now seen SF dominate the election, with FF likely to talk to them about coalition.

I'd forgive him for being on the rag.
Yea fair enough but he was happy to give it out last night.

I still like mully. The right sort really.
Ah he's all right for a posh Northside FF-er.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:52 pm
by Winnie
Jumper wrote:
Winnie wrote:It will take years to get a border poll sorted out
First thing is 50.01 is not sufficient brexit has shown us that and the Brexiters and remainers didn’t have fûcking mentalists with machine guns and bombs!

Then there have to be terms of this prospective unified Ireland
Flag, anthem, constitution, NHS all sorts of shit

Again it can’t be like brexit where you vote and then negotiations begin afterwards
50.01 is what is required as per GFA.
If you think that’s a good idea then you are even more thick than you portray yourself on here

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:53 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
Has this been discussed?
Former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern wandering around the RDS telling people he voted for Gary Gannon: “The lad’s a real worker” #GE20
I know he hates Fitzpatrick and will feel jilted by FF but this is a bit much really.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:53 pm
by crouchy
Boxer Moran is a great name for a politician.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:54 pm
by Winnie
EverReady wrote:It's grand. We have the flag and the anthem and a constitution. We can add some bollox about respecting Prods and lemonade as the national drink. Unfortunately the NHS won't fly. My doctor told me that
None of them can exist on a new Ireland
I know you are a wind up merchant but you but even you know that

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 pm
by Miguel Indurain
crouchy wrote:Lads the difference is the loony left is starting to rally round one party rather than the usual rainbow coalition.
Exactly right.

And this "looney left" demographic has always moved. Remember Labour in 2011? That same demographic which backed Labour then abandoned Labour in 2016.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 pm
by Lazy Couch potato
Uncle Fester wrote:
Flametop wrote:
Uncle Fester wrote:
Flametop wrote:Surely we get to have a say in the matter also?
Not directly no. That's the whole idea of the GFA.
Might need to renegotiate it.
The Good Friday Agreement states that consent for a united Ireland must be “freely and concurrently given” in both the North and the South of the island of Ireland. This is widely interpreted to mean that future border polls must be held in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland at the same time.
We could vote no (very unlikely) or not hold the poll at all I suppose.
Sorry my question was could the south run off “our poll”
With balaclavas holding the balance if power do we need a northern poll to be held first.
God this is depressing

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 pm
by fishfoodie
Winnie wrote:It will take years to get a border poll sorted out
First thing is 50.01 is not sufficient brexit has shown us that and the Brexiters and remainers didn’t have fûcking mentalists with machine guns and bombs!

Then there have to be terms of this prospective unified Ireland
Flag, anthem, constitution, NHS all sorts of shit

Again it can’t be like brexit where you vote and then negotiations begin afterwards
EXACTLY !

And the first move needs to be from the North of the border.

At least after the last vote in NI, there seems to be an increasing realization within Unionism, that a; shall we say; pragmatic approach to re-unification is in the long-term interest of Unionists.

Everything has to be on the board; & that's probably the first stumbling block for the shinners.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:56 pm
by Nolanator
Do Ferris' replacement gets in on the first count in Kerry. Along with Michael H-R. Danny in 4th about 3/4s of the way to the quota, so you'd imagine he'll pick up enough transfers.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:57 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Winnie wrote:
EverReady wrote:It's grand. We have the flag and the anthem and a constitution. We can add some bollox about respecting Prods and lemonade as the national drink. Unfortunately the NHS won't fly. My doctor told me that
None of them can exist on a new Ireland
I know you are a wind up merchant but you but even you know that
You will do as instructed by the new Shinner overlords

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:59 pm
by HighKingLeinster
HighKingLeinster wrote:Right lads, Shinners running 42 candidates. Reckon they need at least 7 not to be elected to ensure FG and FF have more TDs so need a list of eliminated SF candidates to track it

Sorcha NicCormaic Dub rathdown
young lad in galway east
Dun Laoghaire

Any more that are def eliminated?
Just did a quick scan of each constituency and they could easily get 37 or 38.

Need FF to get more to avoid Mary Lou as Taoiseach x(

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:00 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
This kind of underlines they BS notion that the youth are majorly engaged on the climate above all.

SF won middle aged people with promises of cutting the property tax and keeping pensions at 65, they kept the country vote onside with no carbon tax and the youth with promises of free houses.

People remain fundamentally selfish and short sighted. The Greens will make gains but their core seats are still in middle class and upper class areas.

Re: Irishers-Official 33rd Dáil Éireann election thread

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:01 pm
by Blackrock Bullet
HighKingLeinster wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Right lads, Shinners running 42 candidates. Reckon they need at least 7 not to be elected to ensure FG and FF have more TDs so need a list of eliminated SF candidates to track it

Sorcha NicCormaic Dub rathdown
young lad in galway east
Dun Laoghaire

Any more that are def eliminated?
Just did a quick scan of each constituency and they could easily get 37 or 38.

Need FF to get more to avoid Mary Lou as Taoiseach x(
SF will be too smart and demand a rotating Taoiseach now given their “mandate” as the largest party.