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November2019 wrote:

Lobby wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

November2019 wrote:Smart TVs Are Stupid: Why You Don’t Really Want a Smart TV

My Samsung is great. Easy to use apps covering the things I need - YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, iPlayer, integration with my NAS etc. I don't recognise any of the problems or issues in that article.

In any case, can you buy a decent screen of a TV size that isn't attached to a smart TV now?

As all decent sized TVs are smart now, the only bit of decent advice in that article is: "find the best TV for the money and don’t worry so much about the smart part"

Are they all smart now, I don't know. I'm not even sure if our one is (who reads manuals?) because the first thing I do when I turn it on is select the HDMI input that gives me the windows 10 desktop
from my tv box, with an OS that has vastly more functionality than any other and doesn't require me to learn anything to use it right away.

A5D5E5 wrote:

November2019 wrote:

Lobby wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

November2019 wrote:Smart TVs Are Stupid: Why You Don’t Really Want a Smart TV

My Samsung is great. Easy to use apps covering the things I need - YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, iPlayer, integration with my NAS etc. I don't recognise any of the problems or issues in that article.

In any case, can you buy a decent screen of a TV size that isn't attached to a smart TV now?

As all decent sized TVs are smart now, the only bit of decent advice in that article is: "find the best TV for the money and don’t worry so much about the smart part"

Are they all smart now, I don't know. I'm not even sure if our one is (who reads manuals?) because the first thing I do when I turn it on is select the HDMI input that gives me the windows 10 desktop
from my tv box, with an OS that has vastly more functionality than any other and doesn't require me to learn anything to use it right away.

So you have no idea about the functionality or ease of use of your TV. Which is fine, but it clearly undermines your point as you have no idea about one side of the comparison you are making.

November2019 wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

November2019 wrote:

Lobby wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:
My Samsung is great. Easy to use apps covering the things I need - YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, iPlayer, integration with my NAS etc. I don't recognise any of the problems or issues in that article.

In any case, can you buy a decent screen of a TV size that isn't attached to a smart TV now?

As all decent sized TVs are smart now, the only bit of decent advice in that article is: "find the best TV for the money and don’t worry so much about the smart part"

Are they all smart now, I don't know. I'm not even sure if our one is (who reads manuals?) because the first thing I do when I turn it on is select the HDMI input that gives me the windows 10 desktop
from my tv box, with an OS that has vastly more functionality than any other and doesn't require me to learn anything to use it right away.

So you have no idea about the functionality or ease of use of your TV. Which is fine, but it clearly undermines your point as you have no idea about one side of the comparison you are making.

If I were a BMW, Audi or Mercedes driver would you believe I could not justifiably rate them higher than a Trabant until I'd driven one?
Windows the flagship product of one of the most successful software companies in the world as opposed to the afterthought that software is for device makers.

A5D5E5 wrote:

TOGA wrote:

Lobby wrote:

A5D5E5 wrote:

TOGA wrote:Smart TVs Are Stupid: Why You Don’t Really Want a Smart TV

My Samsung is great. Easy to use apps covering the things I need - YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, iPlayer, integration with my NAS etc. I don't recognise any of the problems or issues in that article.

In any case, can you buy a decent screen of a TV size that isn't attached to a smart TV now?

As all decent sized TVs are smart now, the only bit of decent advice in that article is: "find the best TV for the money and don’t worry so much about the smart part"

Are they all smart now, I don't know. I'm not even sure if our one is (who reads manuals?) because the first thing I do when I turn it on is select the HDMI input that gives me the windows 10 desktop
from my tv box, with an OS that has vastly more functionality than any other and doesn't require me to learn anything to use it right away.

So you have no idea about the functionality or ease of use of your TV. Which is fine, but it clearly undermines your point as you have no idea about one side of the comparison you are making.

colonel wrote:

RodneyRegis wrote:

colonel wrote:

kiwidutchie wrote:Having sold TV sets for about 20 years, let me give you the benefit of my experience.

Panasonic is the most reliable brand with the best pic quality, especially when you get to the higher end models. LG is not to far behind, but they do have more quality issues and tend to not last as long.

Samsung look great out of the box, but if you are a critical watcher you will notice that the picture quality is not as good. Also as far as reliability goes, they have, in my experience, more issues than other brands.

Sony is over-rated, and have a terrible habit of not supporting their online apps as long.

OLED TVs have great contrast levels, and give you a fantastic picture, but can be prone to Screen Burn like the old Plasma.

Ok, so if you were in the market for a 49" telly and price were no object what would you go for?



The more I read up though is that you have to get a 55" for the highest quality tech. And given I dont live in an aircraft hanger im not going that big

I can't think of a room in the world not big enough to accommodate a 55.

I just bought one to replace my Samsung 39 beast which had finally kicked the bucket after a solid 14 years. Its really not that much bigger without the bevel.

Stick it on the wall with a cheap vonhaus mount (15 quid off amazon) and you'll be fine.

You mistake my reticence to have the telly dominate the room for a literal inability to fit a 55" telly in it

As for putting it on the wall, no thanks. Just wouldn't be right in the room

Also, if you're spending a lot of money on a piece of tech then you shouldn't be looking for the primary quality of the thing standing between it and a 6 foot drop onto a wooden floor to be cheapness

dinsdale wrote:

Geek wrote:

colonel wrote:Cant go OLED unfortunately, dont think they start until the 55" and Im not going that big in a medium sized living room


Is QLED definitely better than LED backlit?

QLED is just old-fashioned backlit LED tech. It's not even full array. The name is just Samsung's attempt to muddy the waters with OLED (which is, in fact, a new tech). Samsung's QLED range is LED done very well, however.

The higher end models are full array. The others aren't.

RodneyRegis wrote:

Geek wrote:

colonel wrote:oi oi

Im finally in the market for a new telly, and would like some advice

Im not a gamer, just film, sport and telly. Smart tv important but number of inputs arent

Ill use a sound bar so integrated sound quality is neither here nor there

I lean toward the future proofing side of technology purchasing

I cant really go above 49" for the space, although am willing to go as low as 43"

Thoughts please hive mind?

I've done a lot of reading on this and ended up getting an LG OLED 55". It doesn't have a bevel around the outside so when it's off it seems similar in size to an old 50".

If you want to see some reviews I'd recommend AV Forums. They are unbiased and have an (unhealthy) forum community to match this one.

BTW, not that it's a key metric, but Which had the LG OLEDS as their top picks the last time I looked.

AV forums is superb, but they are massively geeky and it just got too much for me. Some great advice on individual TVs once you find one though. I think a lot depends on the type of panel - IPS (?) better for wide viewing angles but not as good contrast as the other one.

Apparently if you get a realy high end job you should pay a technician to set up the picture...

Geek wrote:

colonel wrote:

RodneyRegis wrote:

colonel wrote:

kiwidutchie wrote:Having sold TV sets for about 20 years, let me give you the benefit of my experience.

Panasonic is the most reliable brand with the best pic quality, especially when you get to the higher end models. LG is not to far behind, but they do have more quality issues and tend to not last as long.

Samsung look great out of the box, but if you are a critical watcher you will notice that the picture quality is not as good. Also as far as reliability goes, they have, in my experience, more issues than other brands.

Sony is over-rated, and have a terrible habit of not supporting their online apps as long.

OLED TVs have great contrast levels, and give you a fantastic picture, but can be prone to Screen Burn like the old Plasma.

Ok, so if you were in the market for a 49" telly and price were no object what would you go for?



The more I read up though is that you have to get a 55" for the highest quality tech. And given I dont live in an aircraft hanger im not going that big

I can't think of a room in the world not big enough to accommodate a 55.

I just bought one to replace my Samsung 39 beast which had finally kicked the bucket after a solid 14 years. Its really not that much bigger without the bevel.

Stick it on the wall with a cheap vonhaus mount (15 quid off amazon) and you'll be fine.

You mistake my reticence to have the telly dominate the room for a literal inability to fit a 55" telly in it

As for putting it on the wall, no thanks. Just wouldn't be right in the room

Also, if you're spending a lot of money on a piece of tech then you shouldn't be looking for the primary quality of the thing standing between it and a 6 foot drop onto a wooden floor to be cheapness

Most people seem to put TVs way too high up on the wall (creating an unfortunate angle to have to look up whilst watching). I prefer mine on a little table.

That being said, it seems surprising that a 49" TV could be considered ok for a room, whilst the only very slightly larger (4.5" wider, in fact) TV would apparently dominate it, Hask-stylie. Either it is a very small room or its probably psychological.

I'd add that I went from a 42" to a 55" and after the initial surprise at the increased size am now regretting I couldn't afford the 65". You adjust to the size change in the room very quickly. Especially given that the panel is about 5mm thick and is actually 55" diagonally across (the 42" must have been closer to 46" with the bezel round its old-fashioned panel).

sorCrer wrote:

RodneyRegis wrote:Oh and go as big as you can

Very much this. 4k OLED if possible. LG OLEDB9P

kiwidutchie wrote:Having sold TV sets for about 20 years, let me give you the benefit of my experience.

Panasonic is the most reliable brand with the best pic quality, especially when you get to the higher end models. LG is not to far behind, but they do have more quality issues and tend to not last as long.

Samsung look great out of the box, but if you are a critical watcher you will notice that the picture quality is not as good. Also as far as reliability goes, they have, in my experience, more issues than other brands.

Sony is over-rated, and have a terrible habit of not supporting their online apps as long.

OLED TVs have great contrast levels, and give you a fantastic picture, but can be prone to Screen Burn like the old Plasma.

goose81 wrote:

kiwidutchie wrote:Having sold TV sets for about 20 years, let me give you the benefit of my experience.

Panasonic is the most reliable brand with the best pic quality, especially when you get to the higher end models. LG is not to far behind, but they do have more quality issues and tend to not last as long.

Samsung look great out of the box, but if you are a critical watcher you will notice that the picture quality is not as good. Also as far as reliability goes, they have, in my experience, more issues than other brands.

Sony is over-rated, and have a terrible habit of not supporting their online apps as long.

OLED TVs have great contrast levels, and give you a fantastic picture, but can be prone to Screen Burn like the old Plasma.

Agree with most of the above but what I will say from having owned pioneer Kuru plasmas, Panasonic VT plasmas and currently and LG oled I think burn in for your average user is a myth. I've never had burn in on any plasma or my current oled, I have had image retention on my plasmas but that goes after a while.

You will burn in an oled if you leave sky news on for months or play a game constantly - with average TV viewing I have never seen burn in.

The best TV currently available is an LG oled and I wouldn't put anyone off it because of burn in, it's not gona happen

backrow wrote:Did anyone get suckered into buying a curved tv a few years ago ? Shops seemed to have stopped doing them, I thought they were utter shite and steered clear.

There’s only ever been 3 steps to TV evolution worth having tbf for actual viewing improvement:
1: black and white >>> colour
2: 4:3 ratio to widescreen 16:9
3: normal PAL >>>> HD

Varsity Way wrote:I have always had a Toshiba and have always been happy with them.

message #2527204 wrote:LG 8200 49" for medium price point.