Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
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Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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I'm here because it's an interesting puzzle. If all the numbers were known, there's no puzzle. Like Germany's low death rate, rumour to us to reporting, fact showed us they have a very good spread of ages, strongly suggesting widespread testing, and numbers show deaths to cases fit fairly well on a 14 day lag. Fun puzzle, answer may still be wrong, but that's why it stays interesting.
Same with Italy, they kept hitting around 3.5k, school closures? Testing limits hit when it seemed like a consistent number hit? Some thing else. When will we see the effect of the lockdown? Will we see the full effect of the lockdown? As soon as fewer people are hospitalised, health service workers will likely start getting tested, and other high priority workers, meaning hospitalisations could be going down faster than we're aware, but cases look more stable?
Puzzles when all the answers are filled in are no fun.
Same with Italy, they kept hitting around 3.5k, school closures? Testing limits hit when it seemed like a consistent number hit? Some thing else. When will we see the effect of the lockdown? Will we see the full effect of the lockdown? As soon as fewer people are hospitalised, health service workers will likely start getting tested, and other high priority workers, meaning hospitalisations could be going down faster than we're aware, but cases look more stable?
Puzzles when all the answers are filled in are no fun.
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Because people are idiots.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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It's continuing here too. Half the stuff is out of stock on the tesco order I'm trying to do.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
yeah, thatSaint wrote:Because people are idiots.
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There’s loads of stuff though. We’re just used to having exactly what we want whenever we want it. Like they were out of garlic and ginger when I did my online shop. I reckon that a lack of onions is only single thing that would really fudge me regarding cooking.de_Selby wrote:It's continuing here too. Half the stuff is out of stock on the tesco order I'm trying to do.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
yeah, thatSaint wrote:Because people are idiots.
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de_Selby wrote:It's continuing here too. Half the stuff is out of stock on the tesco order I'm trying to do.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
Saint wrote:Because people are cunts
yeah, that
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We are idiots here too but even our idiots seem to have calmed down after a few days of it. Just wondering why it hasn’t calmed down over there. The supermarkets are scum for not introducing customer quotas straight away. They are coining it.Saint wrote:Because people are idiots.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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Bit of NHS related info we've been relayed at work... for some reason...
NHS taking over private labs next week. Testing to ramp up to 10,000 next week, 15k the week after, 25k the week after that. Enables NHS workers to start getting tested next week.
NHS taking over private labs next week. Testing to ramp up to 10,000 next week, 15k the week after, 25k the week after that. Enables NHS workers to start getting tested next week.
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Boom.Sandstorm wrote:He sounds like a smart, thoughtful, reasonable person. Do you take after your Mum?Mog The Almighty wrote:I asked advice from my father recently - a retired surgeon of over 45 years experience-- and his response was that he's not qualified to comment because it's not his field, but just take one day at a time.
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We must also look at how we produce meat. Some very unhealthy practices out there.
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just went shopping in Haverfordwest, no one's panicking. The only thing I couldn't get was paracetamol. Although a couple days ago the wife had a panic in Morrisons, all the wine and beer had gone. Everyone very calm.
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Those numbers are quite low for a country the size of the UK. The national virus reference lab and the hospital labs combined capacity alone should be way higher than thatJM2K6 wrote:Bit of NHS related info we've been relayed at work... for some reason...
NHS taking over private labs next week. Testing to ramp up to 10,000 next week, 15k the week after, 25k the week after that. Enables NHS workers to start getting tested next week.
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I think it is in part because the media and social media are full of pictures of empty shelves and people fighting over the last packet of pasta, so regardless of all the messages that there are no shortages, people keep seeing images that reinforce their anxieties and encourage them to strip the shelves bare in their local shops.Duff Paddy wrote:We are idiots here too but even our idiots seem to have calmed down after a few days of it. Just wondering why it hasn’t calmed down over there. The supermarkets are scum for not introducing customer quotas straight away. They are coining it.Saint wrote:Because people are idiots.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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Sandstorm wrote:He sounds like a smart, thoughtful, reasonable person. Do you take after your Mum?Mog The Almighty wrote:I asked advice from my father recently - a retired surgeon of over 45 years experience-- and his response was that he's not qualified to comment because it's not his field, but just take one day at a time.
That apple was caught by a hurricane before it fell.
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https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... 10432?s=21
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
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I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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hermes-trismegistus wrote:Sorry. Edit. Not Ditto.clementinfrance wrote:kiap wrote:Naughty of me, and it's a very long article. I have wrapped the sections in spoilers ...
Yuval Noah Harari: the world after coronavirus
This storm will pass. But the choices we make now could change our lives for years to come
Yuval Noah Harari 8 hours ago
Humankind is now facing a global crisis. Perhaps the biggest crisis of our generation. The decisions people and governments take in the next few weeks will probably shape the world for years to come. They will shape not just our healthcare systems but also our economy, politics and culture. We must act quickly and decisively. We should also take into account the long-term consequences of our actions. When choosing between alternatives, we should ask ourselves not only how to overcome the immediate threat, but also what kind of world we will inhabit once the storm passes. Yes, the storm will pass, humankind will survive, most of us will still be alive — but we will inhabit a different world.
Many short-term emergency measures will become a fixture of life. That is the nature of emergencies. They fast-forward historical processes. Decisions that in normal times could take years of deliberation are passed in a matter of hours. Immature and even dangerous technologies are pressed into service, because the risks of doing nothing are bigger. Entire countries serve as guinea-pigs in large-scale social experiments. What happens when everybody works from home and communicates only at a distance? What happens when entire schools and universities go online? In normal times, governments, businesses and educational boards would never agree to conduct such experiments. But these aren’t normal times.
In this time of crisis, we face two particularly important choices. The first is between totalitarian surveillance and citizen empowerment. The second is between nationalist isolation and global solidarity.
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- About the photography: The images accompanying this article are taken from webcams overlooking the deserted streets of Italy, found and manipulated by Graziano Panfili, a photographer living under lockdown
Under-the-skin surveillance: showThe emergency pudding: show----The soap police: show----
- "In the days ahead, each one of us should choose to trust scientific data and healthcare experts over unfounded conspiracy theories and self-serving politicians"
Yuval Noah Harari is author of ‘Sapiens’, ‘Homo Deus’ and ‘21 Lessons for the 21st Century’We need a global plan: show![]()
Agree with pretty much all of that, especially the section about global solidarity and co-operation.
Think benevolent global organisations are a pipedream. The further down the line they get, the more ossified, rigid, and self serving they become.
Thoughtful piece.
It’s also worth realising unless the G20 or some such agree a reset , national populations will be paying for this for a generation at least.
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Is this the photo that will sink Boris?
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Business as usual here, for the most part.Duff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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It is pretty much impossible to buy online here at the moment. Person in front of me at the co-op today was asking when the truck will come in. I imagine that will be another scrum.Duff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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Madness. One big shop per week max. Limit your non essential trips. How is the message not getting through at this stage? It’s inexcusable for people to be carrying on as normal.Nolanator wrote:Business as usual here, for the most part.Duff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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Never thought I’d find myself pining for the relative calm of Haverfordwest...ChipSpike wrote:just went shopping in Haverfordwest, no one's panicking. The only thing I couldn't get was paracetamol. Although a couple days ago the wife had a panic in Morrisons, all the wine and beer had gone. Everyone very calm.
Edit: I’d be straight to the farm shop up from Merlin’s roundabout towards Hill Mountain, with half an eye on getting an extra freezer...
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I’m watching sky news here. Scary footage from Italy. Also interesting to see the Italian consultant touch his face three times with his gloves during a 30second interview 

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When was that taken?Duff Paddy wrote:
Is this the photo that will sink Boris?
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I went to my local farm shop this morningDuff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?

Got my milk, carrots, eggs, squash, bread and some fancy pants garlic butter.
I'm popping in to Sainsburys on the way home - if there are empty shelves they won't get me down.
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Well done. If you’re infected you’ll have spread it around two shops instead of one.Salanya wrote:I went to my local farm shop this morningDuff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?![]()
Got my milk, carrots, eggs, squash, bread and some fancy pants garlic butter.
I'm popping in to Sainsburys on the way home - if there are empty shelves they won't get me down.
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Yeah, you can't disagree with that, but I do feel dirty now.Duff Paddy wrote:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... 10432?s=21
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
The first reply:
''Dr Michael Arnheim
@MichaelArnheim
Replying to
@piersmorgan and @SkyNews
I'm with Tim Martin 125%! It's not worth destroying the economy for this! Coronavirus is not that serious a threat.
80% of those infected have very mild symptoms and recover within 5-7 days.''
According to his Twitter bio this man is an author and fellow at Cambridge

Doubt he would frequent a Spoons anyway.
Wait till his mother or best mate goes into hospital with the virus, he might think it's a bit more serious then. Wanker.
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That’s what it’s going to take for these idiots to get the messageSalanya wrote:Yeah, you can't disagree with that, but I do feel dirty now.Duff Paddy wrote:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... 10432?s=21
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
The first reply:
''Dr Michael Arnheim
@MichaelArnheim
Replying to
@piersmorgan and @SkyNews
I'm with Tim Martin 125%! It's not worth destroying the economy for this! Coronavirus is not that serious a threat.
80% of those infected have very mild symptoms and recover within 5-7 days.''
According to his Twitter bio this man is an author and fellow at Cambridge![]()
Doubt he would frequent a Spoons anyway.
Wait till his mother or best mate goes into hospital with the virus, he might think it's a bit more serious then. Wanker.
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I wonder if the announcement Re 14 days in the house for everyone if any one person starts to feel unwell didn't lead to a lot of people working out that there was a good chance they would need two weeks stock at home at any one time. Not least because we haven't heard how infected households are supposed to provision themselves. There's a lot of talk of contactless deliveries. But a) the available slots are further and further out. And b) substitutions are going to be rife, which is fine most of the time, but not when you're after essentials.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Is this the photo that will sink Boris?

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Lenny wrote:When was that taken?Duff Paddy wrote:
Is this the photo that will sink Boris?
Was Tim Martin in the movie Robin Hood Prince of Thieves?

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He was sitting in his lounge with a mask on 3 weeks ago.Salanya wrote:Yeah, you can't disagree with that, but I do feel dirty now.Duff Paddy wrote:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... 10432?s=21
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
The first reply:
''Dr Michael Arnheim
@MichaelArnheim
Replying to
@piersmorgan and @SkyNews
I'm with Tim Martin 125%! It's not worth destroying the economy for this! Coronavirus is not that serious a threat.
80% of those infected have very mild symptoms and recover within 5-7 days.''
According to his Twitter bio this man is an author and fellow at Cambridge![]()
Doubt he would frequent a Spoons anyway.
Wait till his mother or best mate goes into hospital with the virus, he might think it's a bit more serious then. Wanker.
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39 new dead in the UK just announced. “Not that serious a threat”Duff Paddy wrote:That’s what it’s going to take for these idiots to get the messageSalanya wrote:Yeah, you can't disagree with that, but I do feel dirty now.Duff Paddy wrote:https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... 10432?s=21
What’s the world coming to when you find yourself agreeing with Piers f**king Morgan
The first reply:
''Dr Michael Arnheim
@MichaelArnheim
Replying to
@piersmorgan and @SkyNews
I'm with Tim Martin 125%! It's not worth destroying the economy for this! Coronavirus is not that serious a threat.
80% of those infected have very mild symptoms and recover within 5-7 days.''
According to his Twitter bio this man is an author and fellow at Cambridge![]()
Doubt he would frequent a Spoons anyway.
Wait till his mother or best mate goes into hospital with the virus, he might think it's a bit more serious then. Wanker.
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Why one week?Duff Paddy wrote:Madness. One big shop per week max. Limit your non essential trips. How is the message not getting through at this stage? It’s inexcusable for people to be carrying on as normal.Nolanator wrote:Business as usual here, for the most part.Duff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?
Why not one to two months ?
I ask this as a person who generally shops 4-5 times a week.
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One week is fairly reasonable - reducing your contact and at the same time not stripping the shelves bare.
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Hey, I've washed my hands!Duff Paddy wrote:Well done. If you’re infected you’ll have spread it around two shops instead of one.Salanya wrote:I went to my local farm shop this morningDuff Paddy wrote:You’re still nipping into supermarkets? Lads come onNolanator wrote:I went down to a big Sainsbury's at lunch and multiple aisles were completely empty. All I wanted kidney beans, but the entire aisle was bare. No tinned anything.Duff Paddy wrote:Why has panic buying continued in the UK? Or is it just your media stirring up a crisis?![]()
Got my milk, carrots, eggs, squash, bread and some fancy pants garlic butter.
I'm popping in to Sainsburys on the way home - if there are empty shelves they won't get me down.
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The recommendations I've read is two weeks. But I believe that's based on the possibility of having to totally isolate yourself if you develop symptoms. Just for whatever it's worth.Duff Paddy wrote:One week is fairly reasonable - reducing your contact and at the same time not stripping the shelves bare.