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Leinsterman wrote:
Frodder wrote:
Calculus wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:Apols if RR.

I really do not care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZm1eC7_hs
why post it on this thread?
+1 Wrong thread
I wonder how long it take Mick to get to the vinegar strokes when he watches it.
What a special sort you are.
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Petej wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:
Openside wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:
message #2527204 wrote: Single use, disposable?
Well, yes. I can't see how they can prove the process is working to an acceptable degree that quickly anymore than a vaccine could start being doled out next week.
I bet if you needed a ventilator you would opt for a Gtech one rather than none at all!!!
Sometimes nothing is actually better than something.
https://www.smiths-medical.com/products ... rapac-plus
Think this is the model they are looking at making under license.
Which is fine, but setting up new production centres for medical devices (even existing ones) takes time. Certainly more than days. 3 months would be highly impressive.
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c69 wrote:I sincerely hope not it is a terrible piece of kit tbh.
I would have hoped they linked in with Breas tbh.
Better than nothing though I suspect. The Gtech one looks like the sort of thing a guy would knock up in his shed. https://www.gtech.co.uk/ventilators

But if it gets the oxygen in, it's better than nothing when you need a ventilator.

And yes Duffy, if you can't breath, then a shitty device forcing air into your lungs is better than none at all. Like a half inflated life vest, rather than none, when you're drowning. The difference between vaccines and ventilators is absolutely huge.
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Mick Mannock wrote:
Frodder wrote:
Calculus wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:Apols if RR.

I really do not care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZm1eC7_hs
why post it on this thread?
+1 Wrong thread
I said I really do not care.

Direct me to the appropriate thread oh wise one.
The brexit thread you sad sack.
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AND-y wrote:Corbyn would be handling this way better, let's be honest.
Nobody believes this, why do you write such shit?
Even Corbyn is glad he lost right now so he can avoid doing anything actually useful except wibble
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My sincere apologies to all.

I did post the wrong video.

Actually, I would not even post that one on the Brexit thread. I am not that cruel.

I meant to post this one

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6143711080001
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Raggs wrote:
c69 wrote:I sincerely hope not it is a terrible piece of kit tbh.
I would have hoped they linked in with Breas tbh.
Better than nothing though I suspect. The Gtech one looks like the sort of thing a guy would knock up in his shed. https://www.gtech.co.uk/ventilators

But if it gets the oxygen in, it's better than nothing when you need a ventilator.

And yes Duffy, if you can't breath, then a shitty device forcing air into your lungs is better than none at all. Like a half inflated life vest, rather than none, when you're drowning. The difference between vaccines and ventilators is absolutely huge.
Assuming it actually does force air into someones lungs. But not continuously at too high a level, or too little etc etc The point was about proving the quality of a product before deployment, which holds true for a vaccine or a ventilator.
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Yer Man wrote:When I got in half an hour ago and checked figures, USA had a massive jump to 38,757 (that's up by 14,550 in a day - 60%) and their figures aren't finalised yet.
Now they seem to have been revised downwards to 32,359 ( a mere 8,149 increase so far).


Interested to see if the first figure was an error - or if they still get there by the end of today.
Have they started ramping up testing? I thought I read something about them having a 45 minute test now.
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Raggs wrote:
c69 wrote:I sincerely hope not it is a terrible piece of kit tbh.
I would have hoped they linked in with Breas tbh.
Better than nothing though I suspect. The Gtech one looks like the sort of thing a guy would knock up in his shed. https://www.gtech.co.uk/ventilators

But if it gets the oxygen in, it's better than nothing when you need a ventilator.

And yes Duffy, if you can't breath, then a shitty device forcing air into your lungs is better than none at all. Like a half inflated life vest, rather than none, when you're drowning. The difference between vaccines and ventilators is absolutely huge.
Not really tbh, the pathophysiology of Covid suggest it is predominantly type 1 respiratory failure which needs large amounts of peep and high flow. It's shit. Tbh CPAP and High flow will be the first line of treatment after simple oxygen then venturi masks. NIV for type 2 failure.
If you need mechanical ventilation and not then you will need to be proned.
I think early trcaheostomy is advised as well.

My colleague is being sent preliminary info for the Rolls Royce machine tommorow.
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Rand Paul and Placido Domingo positive.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12318914
A pilot who refused to self-isolate was tracked down by staff from an Auckland waterfront restaurant to a nearby bar.

The pilot and his crew allegedly arrived in the country from a global coronavirus hotspot but were not interested in following self-isolation rules.

The pilot flew into New Zealand on Saturday and refused to co-operate with HeadQuarters staff when trying to enter, before fleeing the establishment.

Staff from HeadQuarters, owned by Leo Molloy, were sent out to track down him down - he was found 20 minutes later in a Princes Wharf restaurant.

"When [name amended] was cornered by a 135kg Tongan he suddenly became very co-operative and told us the full story", Molloy said on social media.

The man told the restaurant he and his crew did not care to follow the rules and they were leaving Auckland on Tuesday, "so who cares".
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Mick Mannock wrote:Apols if RR.

I really do not care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZm1eC7_hs
Sad, sad man :(
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easyray wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:Apols if RR.

I really do not care

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZm1eC7_hs
Sad, sad man :(
:lol:

I apologised.

Still a great listen though.
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The US is fcuked. And the ignorant plum will bring everyone down with them.
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Youngest son has the virus he thinks. Can’t taste or smell anything but otherwise ok. Apparently this is a typical symptom for youngsters. Now self isolating in his flat with girlfriend who has same symptoms. :((
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terryfinch wrote:Youngest son has the virus he thinks. Can’t taste or smell anything but otherwise ok. Apparently this is a typical symptom for youngsters. Now self isolating in his flat with girlfriend who has same symptoms. :((
Sounds like it. Good luck and they're doing the right thing
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Could be the first grandchild on the way.
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terryfinch wrote:Youngest son has the virus he thinks. Can’t taste or smell anything but otherwise ok. Apparently this is a typical symptom for youngsters. Now self isolating in his flat with girlfriend who has same symptoms. :((
How old is he?
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Margin_Walker wrote:
Petej wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:People are stupid, we need martial Law.
We've not got the personnel to enforce that particularly with about 56% being downgraded currently.

Sorry that figure is just RAMC, can't remember the overall number.
More enforcement and better comms is required from government. The problem is we have over indulged the stupid recently who have been told to ignore experts and tell those cleverer then them that we are special and better than others as we are British type bullshit. You would hope what is going on Italy would register with them.

Took quite a bit of effort from my wife and myself to get the mother in law to listen earlier in the week she. The older generation in work were full of everything will be okay stupidity earlier in the week.
Same trouble with the MiL. Think we're finally getting through to her, but the problem certainly isn't all with the younger generation.
And she's now got symptoms (cough, temperature and shivers). Good chance of being something other than this, but makes things pretty complicated as she's the primary carer for her 94yo mother who lives in a flat over the road. Trying now to up her mum's care package, but agencies are stretched.
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Gavin Duffy wrote:Could be the first grandchild on the way.
This
He prob just wants 2 weeks of shagging , the only symptoms he will have is a friction burn where his cock used to be
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J Man wrote:
terryfinch wrote:Youngest son has the virus he thinks. Can’t taste or smell anything but otherwise ok. Apparently this is a typical symptom for youngsters. Now self isolating in his flat with girlfriend who has same symptoms. :((
How old is he?
25
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c69 wrote:
Raggs wrote:
c69 wrote:I sincerely hope not it is a terrible piece of kit tbh.
I would have hoped they linked in with Breas tbh.
Better than nothing though I suspect. The Gtech one looks like the sort of thing a guy would knock up in his shed. https://www.gtech.co.uk/ventilators

But if it gets the oxygen in, it's better than nothing when you need a ventilator.

And yes Duffy, if you can't breath, then a shitty device forcing air into your lungs is better than none at all. Like a half inflated life vest, rather than none, when you're drowning. The difference between vaccines and ventilators is absolutely huge.
Not really tbh, the pathophysiology of Covid suggest it is predominantly type 1 respiratory failure which needs large amounts of peep and high flow. It's shit. Tbh CPAP and High flow will be the first line of treatment after simple oxygen then venturi masks. NIV for type 2 failure.
If you need mechanical ventilation and not then you will need to be proned.
I think early trcaheostomy is advised as well.

My colleague is being sent preliminary info for the Rolls Royce machine tommorow.
Might they be useful for patients without corona virus to free up the necessary equipment?
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Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.
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Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.
thanks for your kind words
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happyhooker wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.
thanks for your kind words
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Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.
We are doing all we can, and we carrying on. It's those others that aren't. The bog roll hoarders and the kids enjoying the playground. They know who they are.
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terryfinch wrote:Youngest son has the virus he thinks. Can’t taste or smell anything but otherwise ok. Apparently this is a typical symptom for youngsters. Now self isolating in his flat with girlfriend who has same symptoms. :((
My neighbour's daughter reporting similar symptoms so the entire family are self isolating. She's only 21.
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Saint wrote:
YOYO wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Raggs wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... Azb_al_TyU

Hopefully the UK will have thousands of new ventilators being produced each day after a few more days.
FWIW This is what Medtronic in Galway make for use in ICUs. With the best will in the world, not easy to replicate if you don't have specialist knowledge.

Image
R2-D2 has stretched a bit.

I read that Medtronic are hiring 300 more people in their Galway facility to help with increased demand.
The government specified requirements appear to be for a drastically simpler device https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/
Saw a report on your Sky News yesterday about this. The vacuum cleaner company had a very rudimentary rough prototype. I guess these companies don’t have much time to do testing.
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Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.

Point scoring over a pandemic. What a total arsehole. :x
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terryfinch wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.

Point scoring over a pandemic. What a total arsehole. :x
It was intended for Mr. Monginator tbf.
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Just seen a video of Fairy Glen today, C69 and a couple of others will know it, and I have never seen it that busy, the morons are going to need the army on the streets so they will listen.
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sonic_attack wrote:https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti ... d=12318914
A pilot who refused to self-isolate was tracked down by staff from an Auckland waterfront restaurant to a nearby bar.

The pilot and his crew allegedly arrived in the country from a global coronavirus hotspot but were not interested in following self-isolation rules.

The pilot flew into New Zealand on Saturday and refused to co-operate with HeadQuarters staff when trying to enter, before fleeing the establishment.

Staff from HeadQuarters, owned by Leo Molloy, were sent out to track down him down - he was found 20 minutes later in a Princes Wharf restaurant.

"When [name amended] was cornered by a 135kg Tongan he suddenly became very co-operative and told us the full story", Molloy said on social media.

The man told the restaurant he and his crew did not care to follow the rules and they were leaving Auckland on Tuesday, "so who cares".
We need very strong penalties for those who violate the self-isolation/quarantine rules. Come down with a hard hammer early to discourage it in the future or we are going to be screwed more than we already are.
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YOYO wrote:
Saint wrote:
YOYO wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Raggs wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... Azb_al_TyU

Hopefully the UK will have thousands of new ventilators being produced each day after a few more days.
FWIW This is what Medtronic in Galway make for use in ICUs. With the best will in the world, not easy to replicate if you don't have specialist knowledge.

Image
R2-D2 has stretched a bit.

I read that Medtronic are hiring 300 more people in their Galway facility to help with increased demand.
The government specified requirements appear to be for a drastically simpler device https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/
Saw a report on your Sky News yesterday about this. The vacuum cleaner company had a very rudimentary rough prototype. I guess these companies don’t have much time to do testing.
Thanks just read the spec.
They are gearing up as I suspected forn ARDS net ventilatory parameters.
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Well I do expect the new ventilators to function! It’s probably has a pretty basic engineering design spec so should be trusted to be durable. I didn’t read the requirements document c69.
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terryfinch wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Somewhere along the line the Brits completely messed up the meaning of stoicism.

It is an admirable feature when you've done all you can and so must carry on. Now it's being spouted as a reason for doing nothing.

Point scoring over a pandemic. What a total arsehole. :x
Piss poor stuff from their lot. Embarrassing themselves.
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Sefton wrote:Just seen a video of Fairy Glen today, C69 and a couple of others will know it, and I have never seen it that busy, the morons are going to need the army on the streets so they will listen.
Silly fucks
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YOYO wrote:Well I do expect the new ventilators to function! It’s probably has a pretty basic engineering design spec so should be trusted to be durable. I didn’t read the requirements document c69.
It would not meet the spec.
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c69 wrote:
Sefton wrote:Just seen a video of Fairy Glen today, C69 and a couple of others will know it, and I have never seen it that busy, the morons are going to need the army on the streets so they will listen.
Silly fucks
that doesn't have a car park iirc

are they just parking by the side of the road?
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happyhooker wrote:
c69 wrote:
Sefton wrote:Just seen a video of Fairy Glen today, C69 and a couple of others will know it, and I have never seen it that busy, the morons are going to need the army on the streets so they will listen.
Silly fucks
that doesn't have a car park iirc

are they just parking by the side of the road?
Yip, a couple of hundred cars at least for a small place.
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