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It's a lot easier to just be "clever" on an internet forum, than to be doing work on the frontline of this, thank youc69 wrote:Raggs has been excellent on this thread, I can't post too much as many know my name and job etc
So for scientific masturbation I will post all the latest info from tomorrow
It is a thread for fronting workers a fact thread no shit fights etc
.Will sort a thread later.Raggs wrote:It's a lot easier to just be "clever" on an internet forum, than to be doing work on the frontline of this, thank youc69 wrote:Raggs has been excellent on this thread, I can't post too much as many know my name and job etc
So for scientific masturbation I will post all the latest info from tomorrow
It is a thread for fronting workers a fact thread no shit fights etc
Would be very interested in seeing that info.
EDIT - And scientific masturbation is exactly what it is.
Hey mate, keep the good work up... regards and respect from the majority of PR posters...c69 wrote:Will sort a thread later.Raggs wrote:It's a lot easier to just be "clever" on an internet forum, than to be doing work on the frontline of this, thank youc69 wrote:Raggs has been excellent on this thread, I can't post too much as many know my name and job etc
So for scientific masturbation I will post all the latest info from tomorrow
It is a thread for fronting workers a fact thread no shit fights etc
Would be very interested in seeing that info.
EDIT - And scientific masturbation is exactly what it is.
TB63 wrote:Hey mate, keep the good work up... regards and respect from the majority of PR posters...c69 wrote:Will sort a thread later.Raggs wrote:It's a lot easier to just be "clever" on an internet forum, than to be doing work on the frontline of this, thank youc69 wrote:Raggs has been excellent on this thread, I can't post too much as many know my name and job etc
So for scientific masturbation I will post all the latest info from tomorrow
It is a thread for fronting workers a fact thread no shit fights etc
Would be very interested in seeing that info.
EDIT - And scientific masturbation is exactly what it is.
Much much respect.No thanksFrodder wrote:C69 for Boris stand in
And we (Ireland) are bringing in supplies for NI in our flights from China.Gavin Duffy wrote:Luftwaffe helping the Italians!
https://mobile.twitter.com/landnrw/stat ... 6130114561
Why did a vision of Gandalf on the bridge just pop into my head?..c69 wrote:No thanksFrodder wrote:C69 for Boris stand in
I need to be with my staff on the front line, making a difference.
China may have fudged their numbers to look better? Colour me surprised.paddyor wrote:http://shanghaiist.com/2020/03/27/urns- ... nas-tally/
Hope you and your family all get through this unscathed. Stay safe.MungoMan wrote:My niece, a nurse, has just posted a copy of her negative COV-19 test on Messenger. (Along with about a zillion memes and smartarse comments). Another niece is also a nurse and a nephew an ambo.
Taken together with sibs who are younger than me but in worse health and a bro-in-law in poor health, it’s getting a tad concerning.
Hong Kong wrote:Terrible news boobs and I fear we are only going to hear many more such stories...
and in other news, a despicunt of a woman gets charged with being a cunt of a human being
What a twateldanielfire wrote:Hong Kong wrote:Terrible news boobs and I fear we are only going to hear many more such stories...
and in other news, a despicunt of a woman gets charged with being a cunt of a human being
What is wrong with people? FFS!
Maybe the feel a bit of guilt for having blocked medical equipment leaving Germany earlier in March ?Gavin Duffy wrote:Luftwaffe helping the Italians!
https://mobile.twitter.com/landnrw/stat ... 6130114561
Surely the average yank gun nut would already have lots of guns and ammo at home anyways? Quite why they would need the shop to be open for a few weeks is beyond me!Wyndham Upalot wrote:Rational thinkers might say those NRA types are just a bit paranoid and lacking in the IQ stakes? I know I'm very much stereotyping, but am I a bad person to think that?Nolanator wrote:Je-sus. People have such strange priorities.November2019 wrote:https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 151165.phpNational Rifle Association members and officials of other gun rights organizations said Friday they had sued Gov. Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Sheriff Alex Villanueva for alleged constitutional violations, citing the shutdown of gun shops during the coronavirus stay-at-home orders.
we think we have problems.
Ta. And the same to you and yours.Leinsterman wrote:Hope you and your family all get through this unscathed. Stay safe.MungoMan wrote:My niece, a nurse, has just posted a copy of her negative COV-19 test on Messenger. (Along with about a zillion memes and smartarse comments). Another niece is also a nurse and a nephew an ambo.
Taken together with sibs who are younger than me but in worse health and a bro-in-law in poor health, it’s getting a tad concerning.
You must be gutted you aren’t there to make sure the prods/brits don’t get anythingcamroc1 wrote:And we (Ireland) are bringing in supplies for NI in our flights from China.Gavin Duffy wrote:Luftwaffe helping the Italians!
https://mobile.twitter.com/landnrw/stat ... 6130114561
Her twat wasn't the problem, it was her mouth.c69 wrote:What a twateldanielfire wrote:Hong Kong wrote:Terrible news boobs and I fear we are only going to hear many more such stories...
and in other news, a despicunt of a woman gets charged with being a cunt of a human being
What is wrong with people? FFS!
I think thats in the T&Cs the government drew up anyway, so no need for Cammy's involvement.Winnie wrote:You must be gutted you aren’t there to make sure the prods/brits don’t get anythingcamroc1 wrote:And we (Ireland) are bringing in supplies for NI in our flights from China.Gavin Duffy wrote:Luftwaffe helping the Italians!
https://mobile.twitter.com/landnrw/stat ... 6130114561
Winnie wrote:You must be gutted you aren’t there to make sure the prods/brits don’t get anythingcamroc1 wrote:And we (Ireland) are bringing in supplies for NI in our flights from China.Gavin Duffy wrote:Luftwaffe helping the Italians!
https://mobile.twitter.com/landnrw/stat ... 6130114561
(Funny because it's true...)They had serious scares in the past, leaving them better prepared. Contact tracing simply isn't possible in most european countries due to lack of testing, and privacy laws.kiwinoz wrote:Chief Korean Virus expert - very informative
https://youtu.be/gAk7aX5hksU
Wear masks and wash hands, get tested if you have any symptoms and be very careful if over 60. Basically West has f@cked up badly.
She’s clearly mentally ill and has been failed by the mental health authorities let’s be honest.eldanielfire wrote:Her twat wasn't the problem, it was her mouth.c69 wrote:What a twateldanielfire wrote:Hong Kong wrote:Terrible news boobs and I fear we are only going to hear many more such stories...
and in other news, a despicunt of a woman gets charged with being a cunt of a human being
What is wrong with people? FFS!
I see the USA is no longer top of the Worldometer list.MungoMan wrote:Shit a brick but Murica has really slammed its foot on the go-fast pedal in re new confirmed cases. 18, 600 more in the last day according to worldometers.
I hope the state-by-state measures being adopted can dampen this real soon now.
All tactical in the broader context of litigating Constitutional issues. Letting anything through to the keeper (for either “side”) then makes its way into the next filing on subsequent measures.backrow wrote:Surely the average yank gun nut would already have lots of guns and ammo at home anyways? Quite why they would need the shop to be open for a few weeks is beyond me!Wyndham Upalot wrote:Rational thinkers might say those NRA types are just a bit paranoid and lacking in the IQ stakes? I know I'm very much stereotyping, but am I a bad person to think that?Nolanator wrote:Je-sus. People have such strange priorities.November2019 wrote:https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/art ... 151165.phpNational Rifle Association members and officials of other gun rights organizations said Friday they had sued Gov. Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Sheriff Alex Villanueva for alleged constitutional violations, citing the shutdown of gun shops during the coronavirus stay-at-home orders.
we think we have problems.
They’re heading for trouble though, and their deaths per million population isn’t fantastic.CM11 wrote:Any explanation for what's happening in Sweden? Why are they unique in terms of being able to function with limited measures and a low mortality rate. Especially when you consider they're only testing acute cases.
That's exactly what all the fuss is about. Not the deaths from Covid, but from overwhelming the health service and the impact that has on everything from Covid to car crashes. All the flatten the curve, and now suppression talk, hasn't been to stop covid deaths, it's been to stop the health service being overrun.dpedin wrote:The focus on the Covid19 figures and in particular the number of deaths is important and urgent but a bit misleading. The (other) thing that worries me is the impact of this on the numbers of other patients who will not have access to the best healthcare they should receive. As ICU/Critical care/High Dependancy beds become full of Covid19 patients and large swathes of beds in hospitals are sectioned off for Covid19 patients then both important elective and emergency patients will have care delayed or changed. For many they will have to wait longer for important surgery or have surgery changed to something less optimal but will mean they don't need ICU post op. This will be a big issue for cancer, cardiac, renal patients for example. Others will be affected as the workforce become ill or self isolate. For example as radiographers fall ill then radiotherapy capacity will reduce and more patients will have to wait longer for time critical treatment. Ditto chemotherapy.
Hospitals should run at 75-80% capacity for efficiency reasons, they have been running at 95%+ capacity due to lack of funding, etc (Not the place to get into that debate). Its been a bit like driving from Edinburgh to London at 120mph non stop for the whole journey and then wondering why your car breaks down. ICU beds are the top of the care pyramid and have been working at well above recommended capacity for a number of years. Numbers of beds and a workforce have seen a criminal lack of investment in the last 10 years. The reality is that finding extra ICU capacity for dealing with Covid19 will impact upon all other services and some very difficult decisions will have to be made about who does and does not get access to care or get sub optimal care.
I suspect that when all this is over and we look back and take a wider view of the impact of Covd19 it will not just be those deaths directly related to the virus we are shocked by but also those deaths which will result from these difficult decisions. I feel so sorry for those patients who know their treatment is not the best it should be but also for those doctors and nurses who have to make these incredibly hard decisions.
No, but their deaths per case are well below anyone else doing a similar testing regime.Gavin Duffy wrote:They’re heading for trouble though, and their deaths per million population isn’t fantastic.CM11 wrote:Any explanation for what's happening in Sweden? Why are they unique in terms of being able to function with limited measures and a low mortality rate. Especially when you consider they're only testing acute cases.
Exactly!fishfoodie wrote:Yaah.Nieghorn wrote:Has anyone else read too many articles about numbers of asymptomatic people? Scary to think about infecting others when you have no clue!
On the one hand, you'd be delighted to get it & never even know it; but be immune to that strain.
And on the other; horrified that you could end up spreading it to loved one; & be responsible for them having serious complications
One plausible explanation I have read is that intergenerational distancing is far more common in Sweden than most other countries. So it's been easier to isolate the most vulnerable groups.CM11 wrote:No, but their deaths per case are well below anyone else doing a similar testing regime.Gavin Duffy wrote:They’re heading for trouble though, and their deaths per million population isn’t fantastic.CM11 wrote:Any explanation for what's happening in Sweden? Why are they unique in terms of being able to function with limited measures and a low mortality rate. Especially when you consider they're only testing acute cases.
2 great posts.Raggs wrote:That's exactly what all the fuss is about. Not the deaths from Covid, but from overwhelming the health service and the impact that has on everything from Covid to car crashes. All the flatten the curve, and now suppression talk, hasn't been to stop covid deaths, it's been to stop the health service being overrun.dpedin wrote:The focus on the Covid19 figures and in particular the number of deaths is important and urgent but a bit misleading. The (other) thing that worries me is the impact of this on the numbers of other patients who will not have access to the best healthcare they should receive. As ICU/Critical care/High Dependancy beds become full of Covid19 patients and large swathes of beds in hospitals are sectioned off for Covid19 patients then both important elective and emergency patients will have care delayed or changed. For many they will have to wait longer for important surgery or have surgery changed to something less optimal but will mean they don't need ICU post op. This will be a big issue for cancer, cardiac, renal patients for example. Others will be affected as the workforce become ill or self isolate. For example as radiographers fall ill then radiotherapy capacity will reduce and more patients will have to wait longer for time critical treatment. Ditto chemotherapy.
Hospitals should run at 75-80% capacity for efficiency reasons, they have been running at 95%+ capacity due to lack of funding, etc (Not the place to get into that debate). Its been a bit like driving from Edinburgh to London at 120mph non stop for the whole journey and then wondering why your car breaks down. ICU beds are the top of the care pyramid and have been working at well above recommended capacity for a number of years. Numbers of beds and a workforce have seen a criminal lack of investment in the last 10 years. The reality is that finding extra ICU capacity for dealing with Covid19 will impact upon all other services and some very difficult decisions will have to be made about who does and does not get access to care or get sub optimal care.
I suspect that when all this is over and we look back and take a wider view of the impact of Covd19 it will not just be those deaths directly related to the virus we are shocked by but also those deaths which will result from these difficult decisions. I feel so sorry for those patients who know their treatment is not the best it should be but also for those doctors and nurses who have to make these incredibly hard decisions.
Agreed. Just worried that most folk think the only deaths attributed to this shitstorm are those reported as the ones directly attributable to Covid19. I am not sure what additional percentage/number of deaths should be added to this number to give the true numbers of deaths but it will not be insignificant.Raggs wrote:That's exactly what all the fuss is about. Not the deaths from Covid, but from overwhelming the health service and the impact that has on everything from Covid to car crashes. All the flatten the curve, and now suppression talk, hasn't been to stop covid deaths, it's been to stop the health service being overrun.dpedin wrote:The focus on the Covid19 figures and in particular the number of deaths is important and urgent but a bit misleading. The (other) thing that worries me is the impact of this on the numbers of other patients who will not have access to the best healthcare they should receive. As ICU/Critical care/High Dependancy beds become full of Covid19 patients and large swathes of beds in hospitals are sectioned off for Covid19 patients then both important elective and emergency patients will have care delayed or changed. For many they will have to wait longer for important surgery or have surgery changed to something less optimal but will mean they don't need ICU post op. This will be a big issue for cancer, cardiac, renal patients for example. Others will be affected as the workforce become ill or self isolate. For example as radiographers fall ill then radiotherapy capacity will reduce and more patients will have to wait longer for time critical treatment. Ditto chemotherapy.
Hospitals should run at 75-80% capacity for efficiency reasons, they have been running at 95%+ capacity due to lack of funding, etc (Not the place to get into that debate). Its been a bit like driving from Edinburgh to London at 120mph non stop for the whole journey and then wondering why your car breaks down. ICU beds are the top of the care pyramid and have been working at well above recommended capacity for a number of years. Numbers of beds and a workforce have seen a criminal lack of investment in the last 10 years. The reality is that finding extra ICU capacity for dealing with Covid19 will impact upon all other services and some very difficult decisions will have to be made about who does and does not get access to care or get sub optimal care.
I suspect that when all this is over and we look back and take a wider view of the impact of Covd19 it will not just be those deaths directly related to the virus we are shocked by but also those deaths which will result from these difficult decisions. I feel so sorry for those patients who know their treatment is not the best it should be but also for those doctors and nurses who have to make these incredibly hard decisions.
I read that regular and emergency cases would be diverted to private hospitals and clinics as it progresses, keeping them covid free. I think the 95% is peak capacity with 5% contingency? Not a lot of leeway, anyway.dpedin wrote:The focus on the Covid19 figures and in particular the number of deaths is important and urgent but a bit misleading. The (other) thing that worries me is the impact of this on the numbers of other patients who will not have access to the best healthcare they should receive. As ICU/Critical care/High Dependancy beds become full of Covid19 patients and large swathes of beds in hospitals are sectioned off for Covid19 patients then both important elective and emergency patients will have care delayed or changed. For many they will have to wait longer for important surgery or have surgery changed to something less optimal but will mean they don't need ICU post op. This will be a big issue for cancer, cardiac, renal patients for example. Others will be affected as the workforce become ill or self isolate. For example as radiographers fall ill then radiotherapy capacity will reduce and more patients will have to wait longer for time critical treatment. Ditto chemotherapy.
Hospitals should run at 75-80% capacity for efficiency reasons, they have been running at 95%+ capacity due to lack of funding, etc (Not the place to get into that debate). Its been a bit like driving from Edinburgh to London at 120mph non stop for the whole journey and then wondering why your car breaks down. ICU beds are the top of the care pyramid and have been working at well above recommended capacity for a number of years. Numbers of beds and a workforce have seen a criminal lack of investment in the last 10 years. The reality is that finding extra ICU capacity for dealing with Covid19 will impact upon all other services and some very difficult decisions will have to be made about who does and does not get access to care or get sub optimal care.
I suspect that when all this is over and we look back and take a wider view of the impact of Covd19 it will not just be those deaths directly related to the virus we are shocked by but also those deaths which will result from these difficult decisions. I feel so sorry for those patients who know their treatment is not the best it should be but also for those doctors and nurses who have to make these incredibly hard decisions.
