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Raggs wrote:Discovery that a common steroid seems to improve death rates for serious cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-patients
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Great news.
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A Salutary lesson for every Government planning on re-opening after their lockdowns.

The US modellers are now having to adjust their estimates with the spike in infections they're now seeing. For one of the main models; it's gone from 170k deaths by the end of Sept, to >200k !

So it's not inconceivable that the US will be heading to the polls with quarter of a million dead.
An influential University of Washington model used by the White House now forecasts a national coronavirus death toll of more than 200,000 by Oct. 1, The Washington Post reports.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model predicts 201,129 deaths in the United States from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

It had earlier forecast 169,890 U.S. deaths by that date, McClatchy News previously reported.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... rylink=cpy
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fishfoodie wrote:A Salutary lesson for every Government planning on re-opening after their lockdowns.

The US modellers are now having to adjust their estimates with the spike in infections they're now seeing. For one of the main models; it's gone from 170k deaths by the end of Sept, to >200k !

So it's not inconceivable that the US will be heading to the polls with quarter of a million dead.
An influential University of Washington model used by the White House now forecasts a national coronavirus death toll of more than 200,000 by Oct. 1, The Washington Post reports.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model predicts 201,129 deaths in the United States from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

It had earlier forecast 169,890 U.S. deaths by that date, McClatchy News previously reported.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... rylink=cpy
I still don't put much faith in the IMHE; they've repeatedly shown their readiness to ignore actual provable facts I. favour of the data their model produces. Even now they're still claiming that the NHS has run out of available ICU beds
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Saint wrote:
fishfoodie wrote:A Salutary lesson for every Government planning on re-opening after their lockdowns.

The US modellers are now having to adjust their estimates with the spike in infections they're now seeing. For one of the main models; it's gone from 170k deaths by the end of Sept, to >200k !

So it's not inconceivable that the US will be heading to the polls with quarter of a million dead.
An influential University of Washington model used by the White House now forecasts a national coronavirus death toll of more than 200,000 by Oct. 1, The Washington Post reports.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model predicts 201,129 deaths in the United States from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

It had earlier forecast 169,890 U.S. deaths by that date, McClatchy News previously reported.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... rylink=cpy
I still don't put much faith in the IMHE; they've repeatedly shown their readiness to ignore actual provable facts I. favour of the data their model produces. Even now they're still claiming that the NHS has run out of available ICU beds
Right now it's just a data point, but we'll see in a week or so, if other modellers reach the same conclusions.

I'd a Boss years ago, who said he never believed any projection; until he saw it three quarters in a row; & he only acted on it at that stage.

The problem here is that if the Politicians only react when they're sure; it's too late !!!
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Raggs wrote:Discovery that a common steroid seems to improve death rates for serious cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-patients
So a vet friend of mine has shared a thread on FB that’s full of middle aged vets basically saying ‘told you so, should have given them dex from the start, been saying it for weeks’.
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fishfoodie wrote:
Saint wrote:
fishfoodie wrote:A Salutary lesson for every Government planning on re-opening after their lockdowns.

The US modellers are now having to adjust their estimates with the spike in infections they're now seeing. For one of the main models; it's gone from 170k deaths by the end of Sept, to >200k !

So it's not inconceivable that the US will be heading to the polls with quarter of a million dead.
An influential University of Washington model used by the White House now forecasts a national coronavirus death toll of more than 200,000 by Oct. 1, The Washington Post reports.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model predicts 201,129 deaths in the United States from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

It had earlier forecast 169,890 U.S. deaths by that date, McClatchy News previously reported.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... rylink=cpy
I still don't put much faith in the IMHE; they've repeatedly shown their readiness to ignore actual provable facts I. favour of the data their model produces. Even now they're still claiming that the NHS has run out of available ICU beds
Right now it's just a data point, but we'll see in a week or so, if other modellers reach the same conclusions.

I'd a Boss years ago, who said he never believed any projection; until he saw it three quarters in a row; & he only acted on it at that stage.

The problem here is that if the Politicians only react when they're sure; it's too late !!!
I agree - but when a model has been proven wrong it's hard to out much faith in it's use in Future

When it comes to the US though it's all pretty irrelevant as they are re-opening come hell or high water
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Israel have emerged from lockdown and are now facing the dreaded second wave...
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Biffer29 wrote:
Raggs wrote:Discovery that a common steroid seems to improve death rates for serious cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-patients
So a vet friend of mine has shared a thread on FB that’s full of middle aged vets basically saying ‘told you so, should have given them dex from the start, been saying it for weeks’.
TBF there are probably loads of threads on FB saying they should have been given one drug or another.
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Anonymous. wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:
Raggs wrote:Discovery that a common steroid seems to improve death rates for serious cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-patients
So a vet friend of mine has shared a thread on FB that’s full of middle aged vets basically saying ‘told you so, should have given them dex from the start, been saying it for weeks’.
TBF there are probably loads of threads on FB saying they should have been given one drug or another.
One thing giving it to cows, or sheep; another to people.
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Biffer29 wrote:
Raggs wrote:Discovery that a common steroid seems to improve death rates for serious cases: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-patients
So a vet friend of mine has shared a thread on FB that’s full of middle aged vets basically saying ‘told you so, should have given them dex from the start, been saying it for weeks’.
The link has been made for months but they had to trial it, it seems.
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"The UK cocking it up again."

The Sun led with the headline 'New Zealand has first coronavirus cases in 24 days after two travellers from UK enter country....one of whom hid symptoms'.

The Daily Star was even stronger, with their headline 'UK visitors ruin New Zealand's coronavirus-free status, leaving Kiwis fuming'.

Journalist Sophie Bateman wrote New Zealand is "back to square one", with the announcement of the cases "provoking widespread anger at 'the UK cocking it up again'".
Expats. :frown:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... aland.html
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Muttonbirds wrote:
"The UK cocking it up again."

The Sun led with the headline 'New Zealand has first coronavirus cases in 24 days after two travellers from UK enter country....one of whom hid symptoms'.

The Daily Star was even stronger, with their headline 'UK visitors ruin New Zealand's coronavirus-free status, leaving Kiwis fuming'.

Journalist Sophie Bateman wrote New Zealand is "back to square one", with the announcement of the cases "provoking widespread anger at 'the UK cocking it up again'".
Expats. :frown:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... aland.html
The women have done nothing wrong and don't deserve blame.
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Saint wrote:
fishfoodie wrote:
Saint wrote:
fishfoodie wrote:A Salutary lesson for every Government planning on re-opening after their lockdowns.

The US modellers are now having to adjust their estimates with the spike in infections they're now seeing. For one of the main models; it's gone from 170k deaths by the end of Sept, to >200k !

So it's not inconceivable that the US will be heading to the polls with quarter of a million dead.
An influential University of Washington model used by the White House now forecasts a national coronavirus death toll of more than 200,000 by Oct. 1, The Washington Post reports.

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation model predicts 201,129 deaths in the United States from coronavirus by Oct. 1.

It had earlier forecast 169,890 U.S. deaths by that date, McClatchy News previously reported.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... rylink=cpy
I still don't put much faith in the IMHE; they've repeatedly shown their readiness to ignore actual provable facts I. favour of the data their model produces. Even now they're still claiming that the NHS has run out of available ICU beds
Right now it's just a data point, but we'll see in a week or so, if other modellers reach the same conclusions.

I'd a Boss years ago, who said he never believed any projection; until he saw it three quarters in a row; & he only acted on it at that stage.

The problem here is that if the Politicians only react when they're sure; it's too late !!!
I agree - but when a model has been proven wrong it's hard to out much faith in it's use in Future

When it comes to the US though it's all pretty irrelevant as they are re-opening come hell or high water
Using Dex might take the edge off - or might just make them more gung-ho about relaxing lockdowns.

But, not to worry. Trump says that the brilliant people that invented the AIDS vaccine ( :lol: :lol: ) will give us a Covid vaccine this year.
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The Lady of the House has picked up a cold so advised her (and of course me) to get a test.

Drive through in Rozelle - my second.

Changed a bit but still tickles :lol: :lol:
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Mr Mike wrote:
Muttonbirds wrote:
"The UK cocking it up again."

The Sun led with the headline 'New Zealand has first coronavirus cases in 24 days after two travellers from UK enter country....one of whom hid symptoms'.

The Daily Star was even stronger, with their headline 'UK visitors ruin New Zealand's coronavirus-free status, leaving Kiwis fuming'.

Journalist Sophie Bateman wrote New Zealand is "back to square one", with the announcement of the cases "provoking widespread anger at 'the UK cocking it up again'".
Expats. :frown:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zeal ... aland.html
The women have done nothing wrong and don't deserve blame.
Some reports say they hid symptoms from authorities. It will probably be one of things the public will never know.
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People lie about their Covid19 symptoms? :shock:
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Are you surprised at my naivety? We are just not used to pandemic dishonesty in Covid free New Zealand so it has come as a shock.
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India starting to wake up to the idea they might have a problem, reporting over 2,000 dead yesterday as part of a "catch-up" exercise.

Brazil looking like it could get very ugly, and the US still reporting 800+ a day with cases starting to increase again.

Just looking at the numbers and Canada appears to have performed very well all things considered - lots of travel both to Asia and Europe, enormous land border with the US, etc
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Saint wrote:India starting to wake up to the idea they might have a problem, reporting over 2,000 dead yesterday as part of a "catch-up" exercise.

Brazil looking like it could get very ugly, and the US still reporting 800+ a day with cases starting to increase again.

Just looking at the numbers and Canada appears to have performed very well all things considered - lots of travel both to Asia and Europe, enormous land border with the US, etc
The US's cases have increased marginally enough based on a 7 day average. Some places are still declining, some are still going up. The 7 day moving average of deaths is still falling.

Canada is not dense at all - I'd have though that would really help them.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Saint wrote:India starting to wake up to the idea they might have a problem, reporting over 2,000 dead yesterday as part of a "catch-up" exercise.

Brazil looking like it could get very ugly, and the US still reporting 800+ a day with cases starting to increase again.

Just looking at the numbers and Canada appears to have performed very well all things considered - lots of travel both to Asia and Europe, enormous land border with the US, etc
The US's cases have increased marginally enough based on a 7 day average. Some places are still declining, some are still going up. The 7 day moving average of deaths is still falling.

Canada is not dense at all - I'd have though that would really help them.
Agree Canada isn't dense, but there's a lot of international and inter-province travel to reasonable sized population centres. You would have expected Vancouver to be hit fairly hard given just how connected it is into China, and Toronto would be at real risk give it's connections to Europe and New York.

For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
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Saint wrote:
For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
Texas and Florida are the places where we will see an increase in the number of deaths due to 'pneumonia'.
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robmatic wrote:
Saint wrote:
For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
Texas and Florida are the places where we will see an increase in the number of deaths due to 'pneumonia'.
ImageMore seriously, two points:

1. The medical facilities in Texas are excellent, run by dedicated and skilled professionals and located squarely within democrat dominated cities. They won’t be falsifying numbers to make Abbot’s efforts look better.

2. The HEB Texas Tough tin foil truly is an excellent product, even if they get confused when you call it “tun foil”.
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So anyone looking at Qatar and wondering just how they've kept the death rate so low?

Both them and Singapore, are extremely low. Singapore is claiming it's because it's mostly migrant workers effected, and they tend to be young, and therefore less susceptible.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Canada is not dense at all
Canadians, on the other hand...
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Raggs wrote:So anyone looking at Qatar and wondering just how they've kept the death rate so low?

Both them and Singapore, are extremely low. Singapore is claiming it's because it's mostly migrant workers effected, and they tend to be young, and therefore less susceptible.
Vietnam is incredible considering where they are and 100m population. They had a few deaths very early on, but seem to have reanimated those, and now have zero deaths.
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Mr Mike wrote:
robmatic wrote:
Saint wrote:
For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
Texas and Florida are the places where we will see an increase in the number of deaths due to 'pneumonia'.
ImageMore seriously, two points:

1. The medical facilities in Texas are excellent, run by dedicated and skilled professionals and located squarely within democrat dominated cities. They won’t be falsifying numbers to make Abbot’s efforts look better.

2. The HEB Texas Tough tin foil truly is an excellent product, even if they get confused when you call it “tun foil”.
I imagine Florida and Texas are packed with old folk care homes. Isolate the fu*k out of those places!
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message #2527204 wrote:
Raggs wrote:So anyone looking at Qatar and wondering just how they've kept the death rate so low?

Both them and Singapore, are extremely low. Singapore is claiming it's because it's mostly migrant workers effected, and they tend to be young, and therefore less susceptible.
Vietnam is incredible considering where they are and 100m population. They had a few deaths very early on, but seem to have reanimated those, and now have zero deaths.
Does make you wonder if they have had recent cold/flu infections that have somehow protected a good chunk of their populations and stopped C19 getting a hold.
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Saint wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Saint wrote:India starting to wake up to the idea they might have a problem, reporting over 2,000 dead yesterday as part of a "catch-up" exercise.

Brazil looking like it could get very ugly, and the US still reporting 800+ a day with cases starting to increase again.

Just looking at the numbers and Canada appears to have performed very well all things considered - lots of travel both to Asia and Europe, enormous land border with the US, etc
The US's cases have increased marginally enough based on a 7 day average. Some places are still declining, some are still going up. The 7 day moving average of deaths is still falling.

Canada is not dense at all - I'd have though that would really help them.
Agree Canada isn't dense, but there's a lot of international and inter-province travel to reasonable sized population centres. You would have expected Vancouver to be hit fairly hard given just how connected it is into China, and Toronto would be at real risk give it's connections to Europe and New York.

For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
Those places already have a lot of cases though, they might be smaller relatively speaking, but they did still previously have an outbreak.

There's realistically probably just a bit to run in those places, to rural populations or whatever.
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Would air travel in the West not be just a bigger thing? More frequency, more shorter hops etc.
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Mr Mike wrote:2. The HEB Texas Tough tin foil truly is an excellent product, even if they get confused when you call it “tun foil”.
:thumbup:

Been very impressed with HEB, the one close to us coped with all the panic-buying and social distancing stuff really well. Can’t be arsed to shlep to Trader Joe’s (although their snacks are better).
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Saint wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:
Saint wrote:India starting to wake up to the idea they might have a problem, reporting over 2,000 dead yesterday as part of a "catch-up" exercise.

Brazil looking like it could get very ugly, and the US still reporting 800+ a day with cases starting to increase again.

Just looking at the numbers and Canada appears to have performed very well all things considered - lots of travel both to Asia and Europe, enormous land border with the US, etc
The US's cases have increased marginally enough based on a 7 day average. Some places are still declining, some are still going up. The 7 day moving average of deaths is still falling.

Canada is not dense at all - I'd have though that would really help them.
Agree Canada isn't dense, but there's a lot of international and inter-province travel to reasonable sized population centres. You would have expected Vancouver to be hit fairly hard given just how connected it is into China, and Toronto would be at real risk give it's connections to Europe and New York.

For the US, the places showing upwards trends are the ones you REALLY don't want to be showing upwards trends - CA, TX, FL, etc. If those sorts of trends continue then there's some large populations that will start to have problems. And the upwards trends in cases is still less than 14 days old, so none of that is yet reflected in the death rate, which is still fairly high to start with.
Those places already have a lot of cases though, they might be smaller relatively speaking, but they did still previously have an outbreak.

There's realistically probably just a bit to run in those places, to rural populations or whatever.
What does this even mean ??

Three States reported their largest daily increases in cases yesterday. I don't know the breakdown in TX< & AZ; but in Florida the largest increase was right i Miami-Dade, which certainly isn't rural.

The point is that your daily cases shouldn't be doubling at this point; as AZ cases were
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I don't think that this is a second wave for them, in some places in Texas they didn't get hit last time out and are now.

Point taken on Florida. Seems to be a war of words on what is causing it there.

California is an odd one. They had a strong lockdown. They mandate face coverings. In Europe the places that locked down have not seen any significant upsurge after reopening. The likes of Cali are.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:I don't think that this is a second wave for them, in some places in Texas they didn't get hit last time out and are now.

Point taken on Florida. Seems to be a war of words on what is causing it there.

California is an odd one. They had a strong lockdown. They mandate face coverings. In Europe the places that locked down have not seen any significant upsurge after reopening. The likes of Cali are.
Its only not a second wave, because they never had a significant dip; it's more like a 2nd surge, after a brief plateau. The whole point in doing a lockdown is to let the infection pass thru its cycle, & then only re-open when you've massively reduced the number of infected. That only works though when you have a comparatively closed system; & you can screen people coming in, so you don't introduce new infected people (like NZ just discovered). The problem is the enormous amount of traffic between states means that you can have the best responses in your state but if your neighbours are arseholes, you'll never stamp out the infections. California has the misfortune to have Nevada as it's arsehole neighbour, & Las Vegas is the Thyroid Mary
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fishfoodie wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:I don't think that this is a second wave for them, in some places in Texas they didn't get hit last time out and are now.

Point taken on Florida. Seems to be a war of words on what is causing it there.

California is an odd one. They had a strong lockdown. They mandate face coverings. In Europe the places that locked down have not seen any significant upsurge after reopening. The likes of Cali are.
Its only not a second wave, because they never had a significant dip; it's more like a 2nd surge, after a brief plateau. The whole point in doing a lockdown is to let the infection pass thru its cycle, & then only re-open when you've massively reduced the number of infected. That only works though when you have a comparatively closed system; & you can screen people coming in, so you don't introduce new infected people (like NZ just discovered). The problem is the enormous amount of traffic between states means that you can have the best responses in your state but if your neighbours are arseholes, you'll never stamp out the infections. California has the misfortune to have Nevada as it's arsehole neighbour, & Las Vegas is the Thyroid Mary
Fair enough points. Is Northern Cali better off?
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Blackrock Bullet wrote:
fishfoodie wrote:
Blackrock Bullet wrote:I don't think that this is a second wave for them, in some places in Texas they didn't get hit last time out and are now.

Point taken on Florida. Seems to be a war of words on what is causing it there.

California is an odd one. They had a strong lockdown. They mandate face coverings. In Europe the places that locked down have not seen any significant upsurge after reopening. The likes of Cali are.
Its only not a second wave, because they never had a significant dip; it's more like a 2nd surge, after a brief plateau. The whole point in doing a lockdown is to let the infection pass thru its cycle, & then only re-open when you've massively reduced the number of infected. That only works though when you have a comparatively closed system; & you can screen people coming in, so you don't introduce new infected people (like NZ just discovered). The problem is the enormous amount of traffic between states means that you can have the best responses in your state but if your neighbours are arseholes, you'll never stamp out the infections. California has the misfortune to have Nevada as it's arsehole neighbour, & Las Vegas is the Thyroid Mary
Fair enough points. Is Northern Cali better off?
North Cali suffers the same risk as tourists from other states rock in over the summer.

We need to keep our eye in Ireland on the UK until they get down to low levels of community infection. We are still seeing UK car registrations rock up here on holiday over the last many weekends and it’s frankly wrong.

We are all having to live with some discipline for a period to drive past the Covid risk here ... but some of you might even enjoy a bit of that ! ;)
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Re: Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans

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835 000 Australians lost their jobs since March because of this cvnt of a virus. 835 000 Australians.
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I see Spain have stopped reporting deaths. Seems an odd thing to do.
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BlackMac wrote:I see Spain have stopped reporting deaths. Seems an odd thing to do.
Lots of politics going on. The regions claim they are still submitting data, the PM has stood up in parliament and said that there have been "no new deaths" on several days.

Their equivalent to the UK ONS has finally published data showing "excess deaths" in Spain to be in the region of 43,000-44,000
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UK SCientists have decided to look into Vitamin D as a factor in a big way :thumbup:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rus-review

I've been saying this for weeks.
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