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Vaccine passports heading our way !

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/191 ... ading-way/
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ovalball wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:50 pm Vaccine passports heading our way !

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/191 ... ading-way/
FFS! We're not in the f**king EU.
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And have no interest in travelling there, so that's that. Harrumph.
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CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:00 pm And have no interest in travelling there, so that's that. Harrumph.
There is a huge difference between getting a certificate because it is required by the country you're visiting, and blindly following EU laws at home that require one to get into a pub or supermarket.
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message #2527204 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:17 pm
CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:00 pm And have no interest in travelling there, so that's that. Harrumph.
There is a huge difference between getting a certificate because it is required by the country you're visiting, and blindly following EU laws at home that require one to get into a pub or supermarket.
You're not part Israel either.
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CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:19 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:17 pm
CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:00 pm And have no interest in travelling there, so that's that. Harrumph.
There is a huge difference between getting a certificate because it is required by the country you're visiting, and blindly following EU laws at home that require one to get into a pub or supermarket.
You're not part Israel either.
Indeed. If we get 90-95% take up as we have in the oldies, then there is no need for domestic passports.
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message #2527204 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:21 pm
CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:19 pm
message #2527204 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:17 pm
CM11 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:00 pm And have no interest in travelling there, so that's that. Harrumph.
There is a huge difference between getting a certificate because it is required by the country you're visiting, and blindly following EU laws at home that require one to get into a pub or supermarket.
You're not part Israel either.
Indeed. If we get 90-95% take up as we have in the oldies, then there is no need for domestic passports.
The issue of course will be to separate from the people who come in, potentially unvaccinated. If enough come in prior to vaccination it will possibly trigger it off again in the UK.
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Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
Can't they buy guns online?
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UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

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eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980


Hooked on the magic money now. Can’t face the reality of the crash that coming. Terrible stuff. (And I say this as someone making out on furlough).
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
My girlfriend is in Missouri at the moment. She says it's more or less back to normal there (in terms of what you see walking around, restaurants still have capacity restrictions and schoolchildren wear masks (I think), etc.)

Large parts of the country are kinda just over it.
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Yeah I get that alright. I’d rather cases stayed low for another month whilst the vaccine kicked in though so these wankers over here don’t try and add the US to mandatory hotel quarantine.
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Booked in for 1st dose next Tuesday, and 2nd dose near the end of May. I've no idea which vaccine I'll be getting, but hopefully it covers all the current variants.
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Leinster in London wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:58 am Booked in for 1st dose next Tuesday, and 2nd dose near the end of May. I've no idea which vaccine I'll be getting, but hopefully it covers all the current variants.
Given the timeline between doses I'd have thought it could only be the Oxford AZ.
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Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
One of the result of CPAC where GQP speakers, including Ted Cruz, mocked the wearing of masks
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Jensrsa wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:51 am
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
One of the result of CPAC where GQP speakers, including Ted Cruz, mocked the wearing of masks
Are they working to double the current death rates :|
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:03 am
Jensrsa wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:51 am
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
One of the result of CPAC where GQP speakers, including Ted Cruz, mocked the wearing of masks
Are they working to double the current death rates :|
As good a strategy as most. Mandatory drinking before driving might just pip it, tho’.
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fonzeee wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:41 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
My girlfriend is in Missouri at the moment. She says it's more or less back to normal there (in terms of what you see walking around, restaurants still have capacity restrictions and schoolchildren wear masks (I think), etc.)

Large parts of the country are kinda just over it.
Surge number 4 to hit late March then. Bugger - I hope it doesn't lead to a mutation
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eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
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Enzedder wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:07 am
fonzeee wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:41 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
My girlfriend is in Missouri at the moment. She says it's more or less back to normal there (in terms of what you see walking around, restaurants still have capacity restrictions and schoolchildren wear masks (I think), etc.)

Large parts of the country are kinda just over it.
Surge number 4 to hit late March then. Bugger - I hope it doesn't lead to a mutation
A mutation is almost a certainty. Surge number 4? I am not so sure. A bump maybe but not a surge. 50 Mil vaccinated and 30 Mil confirmed cases with probably that number again asymptomatic means almost 50% of the us has had it or vaccinated against it. Pretty much every second person. That will seriously put the brakes on the spread.
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Leinster in London wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:58 am Booked in for 1st dose next Tuesday, and 2nd dose near the end of May. I've no idea which vaccine I'll be getting, but hopefully it covers all the current variants.
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bimboman wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980


Hooked on the magic money now. Can’t face the reality of the crash that coming. Terrible stuff. (And I say this as someone making out on furlough).
Yeah, nothing to do with the pandemic not be over at all and people's jobs not exactly returning yet.
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EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
It's really hard to know how to respond. People have lost their minds
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.
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This money needs to be recoveredover a long time.
Just like student loans are organised over a very lo g period, surely those who recieved furlough should pay their own way.
I doubt any fair minded furloughed person would begrudge paying back their handout with something like a furlough tax paid back over 20 or 30 years.

Lol edit

But seriously I heard this suggested a few days ago and tbh it seems very reasonable.
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20 is kinder than 3
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Enzedder wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:07 am
fonzeee wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:41 pm
Blackrock Bullet wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:34 pm Texas just announced 100% reopening and masks are no longer mandatory.

Ffs
My girlfriend is in Missouri at the moment. She says it's more or less back to normal there (in terms of what you see walking around, restaurants still have capacity restrictions and schoolchildren wear masks (I think), etc.)

Large parts of the country are kinda just over it.
Surge number 4 to hit late March then. Bugger - I hope it doesn't lead to a mutation


Variants are far more likely to take hold where restrictions force them .


Follow the science .
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:10 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.
What is it’s highest level of debt :lol:
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:10 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980
Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.


The UK debt is one of the highest globally by any measure,

The deficit is record breaking.

It’s very close to bankruptcy.
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C69 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:12 am This money needs to be recoveredover a long time.
Just like student loans are organised over a very lo g period, surely those who recieved furlough should pay their own way.
I doubt any fair minded furloughed person would begrudge paying back their handout with something like a furlough tax paid back over 20 or 3 years.
3 is harsh mate. I'd take 20 or 30 myself ;)

But yeah I agree in principle. The worry of course is taxes would also put more limits of economic growth. I'd lower taxes for a year or 2, then raise them. I'd also drop business rates and make councils lower business rents for small businesses.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:15 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:10 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am

Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.


The UK debt is one of the highest globally by any measure,

The deficit is record breaking.

It’s very close to bankruptcy.
All the more reason to create as much stimulus to the economy post Coronavirus. The deficit will not go down if businesses stop and people lose jobs and those tax monies don't come in. It's a long term project.
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:18 am
C69 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:12 am This money needs to be recoveredover a long time.
Just like student loans are organised over a very lo g period, surely those who recieved furlough should pay their own way.
I doubt any fair minded furloughed person would begrudge paying back their handout with something like a furlough tax paid back over 20 or 3 years.
3 is harsh mate. I'd take 20 or 30 myself ;)

But yeah I agree in principle. The worry of course is taxes would also put more limits of economic growth. I'd lower taxes for a year or 2, then raise them. I'd also drop business rates and make councils lower business rents for small businesses.
Great thinking Rishi but the IMF will just raise money by any means necessary. They will slash budgets and raise taxes as they did in 1976 in the UK and as the troika did in Ireland in 2010
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:14 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:10 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am
EverReady wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 am

Oh ffs. Our fücking twats will now follow. Thanks
What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.
What is it’s highest level of debt :lol:
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Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:22 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:18 am
C69 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:12 am This money needs to be recoveredover a long time.
Just like student loans are organised over a very lo g period, surely those who recieved furlough should pay their own way.
I doubt any fair minded furloughed person would begrudge paying back their handout with something like a furlough tax paid back over 20 or 3 years.
3 is harsh mate. I'd take 20 or 30 myself ;)

But yeah I agree in principle. The worry of course is taxes would also put more limits of economic growth. I'd lower taxes for a year or 2, then raise them. I'd also drop business rates and make councils lower business rents for small businesses.
Great thinking Rishi but the IMF will just raise money by any means necessary. They will slash budgets and raise taxes as they did in 1976 in the UK and as the troika did in Ireland in 2010
A difference between then and now is debt interest is hugely low, historically low for the UK. Use a bit more to invest in the economy and ensure the growth excess the interest.
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:57 am
bimboman wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:32 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:05 pm UK furlough to be extended until September :thumbup:

https://twitter.com/PoliticsForAlI/stat ... 0286078980


Hooked on the magic money now. Can’t face the reality of the crash that coming. Terrible stuff. (And I say this as someone making out on furlough).
Yeah, nothing to do with the pandemic not be over at all and people's jobs not exactly returning yet.


All restrictions are stopping in Jun. So no need for furlough. Using tax payer money to directly bribe other parts of the populous is abhorrent.
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C69 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:12 am This money needs to be recoveredover a long time.
Just like student loans are organised over a very lo g period, surely those who recieved furlough should pay their own way.
I doubt any fair minded furloughed person would begrudge paying back their handout with something like a furlough tax paid back over 20 or 30 years.

Lol edit

But seriously I heard this suggested a few days ago and tbh it seems very reasonable.

Furloughing the public sector would have bought an end to the nonsense early.

1/2 the NHS should be on 80% at best.

Paying back furlough is about as moronic a view you’ve ever expressed, dangerous horrid individual.
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eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:22 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:14 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:10 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 am
eldanielfire wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:58 am

What's your issue with it?
Probably the fact that both countries are facing bankruptcy?
The UK isn't close to it's highest level of debt or deficit. It's not close to being bankrupt once the Cornonavirus is gone.
What is it’s highest level of debt :lol:
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The graph hasn’t finished rising yet. The IMF were called in 1976 FYI.
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