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I think we need to start checking these paddies at the ports and airports.

God knows what they're carrying :thumbdown:
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UK go past the 30M 1st dose vax mark.
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mdaclarke wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:16 pm
ovalball wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:56 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:49 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:48 pm
iarmhiman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:46 pm
And there is the cynical reason:

Give the vaccines to Ireland before mainland Europe. By doing that he's undermining the EU vaccine rollout.

Divide and rule.

I'll give him the benefit that it's for Northern Ireland but this is the Tories and this is Boris so they're probably up to something geopolitical


How does removing a small burden from the EU roll out undermine the programme. It can only make it better in practical terms.
Because that's not the intention
There's no winning with some people !!!!

They were looking for a win/win situation. Helping Ireland with their vaccination programme would qualify for that. It helps the EU/Ireland and it helps the UK due to the soft border with the South.
I think it is being offered to kill 2 birds with 1 stone
1. to help out Northern Ireland so we don't have to close the border
2. to rub the EU's noses in it.

Not sure which 1 is the primary motivation.
Duff iarmhiman :lol:
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MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:28 pm
DAC_ wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:16 pm Why are our Irish step-cousins forgetting the relationship we have with their country and how it benefits them far more than us. Given the flow of people between the two it would make sense if the UK helps as it seems their Federalist Government is unable to at this time. Vaccinating Irish citizens would help keep the UK infection rate down.
We have way lower covid than the UK
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
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MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:16 pm I think we need to start checking these paddies at the ports and airports.

God knows what they're carrying :thumbdown:
Common Travel Area 8) stand aside sir I’m here to tarmac your drives
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm
MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:28 pm
DAC_ wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:16 pm Why are our Irish step-cousins forgetting the relationship we have with their country and how it benefits them far more than us. Given the flow of people between the two it would make sense if the UK helps as it seems their Federalist Government is unable to at this time. Vaccinating Irish citizens would help keep the UK infection rate down.
We have way lower covid than the UK
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
Our tests per million is half of the UK's.

I know NI seems to do a low per capita amount of tests but overall the UK seems to do a ton of testing.

Given their positivity, I don't see how we're lower than the UK for infections. They're below us in terms of ICU too.
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Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
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CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
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It is totally in the UK's interest to help ireland and EU countries. It is also in the EU's states interest that numbers are low in the UK. Mutually beneficial.

While the decreases in cases has stopped/slowed the hospitalisations, deaths and numbers in hospitals are still decreasing significantly.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
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CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
I think, and I may be doing a Duff Paddy here, even if you’re cleared by the PCR you still spend 14 days in covid jail?
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CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
the overall false positive rate was 0.32%, although this was lowered to 0.06% in a lab setting.
It has an overall sensitivity of 76.8% for all PCR positive individuals but detects over 95% of individuals with high viral loads,
https://www.england.nhs.uk/coronavirus/ ... n-2021.pdf
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CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:26 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm
MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:28 pm
DAC_ wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:16 pm Why are our Irish step-cousins forgetting the relationship we have with their country and how it benefits them far more than us. Given the flow of people between the two it would make sense if the UK helps as it seems their Federalist Government is unable to at this time. Vaccinating Irish citizens would help keep the UK infection rate down.
We have way lower covid than the UK
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
Our tests per million is half of the UK's.

I know NI seems to do a low per capita amount of tests but overall the UK seems to do a ton of testing.

Given their positivity, I don't see how we're lower than the UK for infections. They're below us in terms of ICU too.
Apologies - I assumed that NI was the same as the rest of the U.K. for testing.

Anyway:
Ireland 4,666 covid deaths
U.K. 127,000 covid deaths

End of discussion really
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CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.


You are wrong. :thumbup:
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:01 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:44 pm Parents of school children are being tested multiple times a week. Surprised we’re not testing our pets here.
Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
I think, and I may be doing a Duff Paddy here, even if you’re cleared by the PCR you still spend 14 days in covid jail?


Only if the test is taken in school, otherwise the PCR test over rides.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:10 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:26 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm
MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:28 pm

We have way lower covid than the UK
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
Our tests per million is half of the UK's.

I know NI seems to do a low per capita amount of tests but overall the UK seems to do a ton of testing.

Given their positivity, I don't see how we're lower than the UK for infections. They're below us in terms of ICU too.
Apologies - I assumed that NI was the same as the rest of the U.K. for testing.

Anyway:
Ireland 4,666 covid deaths
U.K. 127,000 covid deaths

End of discussion really
That’s more like it.
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bimboman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:14 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:01 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:46 pm

Are they antigen or PCR? I'm assuming antigen isn't included in the main test results.
Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
I think, and I may be doing a Duff Paddy here, even if you’re cleared by the PCR you still spend 14 days in covid jail?


Only if the test is taken in school, otherwise the PCR test over rides.
I’m not risking it!

Jab next week anyway, nicely timed for the summer.
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CM11 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:13 am
DragsterDriver wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:05 am
CM11 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:03 am Lads, I have criticised the EU for how they've handled many things on this matter. However you lot have made it a Brexit thing from the start when it was, and still is, a dispute between AZ and the EU.

I could understand the braying and even think it was all a bit of craic of it wasn't for 3000 EU citizens currently dying per day while the UK death rate heads towards zero.

So yeah, I'm not going to apologise for the EU trying to save lives while you smug pricks condone giving vaccines to healthy UK citizens over vulnerable EU (or anywhere in the world) citizens.
“They’re at it again!”

Chill bruv, it was great craic when we had the highest death rate.
Except I was chastising anyone who tried to score points on death rate. I've being saying from the start that it'll only be after it's over when we can judge who got what right and even then hindsight is a great thing.
Duff, consider yourself told. Again.
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Okay calm down son you’re getting too excited
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:25 pm Okay calm down son you’re getting too excited
I’M NOT GETTing excited.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:19 pm
bimboman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:14 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:01 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:59 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:54 pm

Just checked, they’re antigen. I’ve got x12 in the kitchen, if you get a positive you then take a pcr to check it.

I’m not taking any, too busy for 14days off with a false positive.
I could be wrong but I think the chance of a false positive with antigen is very low, if not non existent. High false negatives is the problem.
I think, and I may be doing a Duff Paddy here, even if you’re cleared by the PCR you still spend 14 days in covid jail?


Only if the test is taken in school, otherwise the PCR test over rides.
I’m not risking it!

Jab next week anyway, nicely timed for the summer.
It doesn't send a message to the local cops. If it shows positive, work from home for a day whilst you confirm with PCR. Better than risking everyone you meet, surely?
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Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Yeah. Im guessing that's what a lot people have been saying during the pandemic.

Nearly over now.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Bt you're happy to risk someone else's health/life by not taking the test !!
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We all know they are always hypocritical when it suits their cause. Always have been, always will be.
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ovalball wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:02 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Bt you're happy to risk someone else's health/life by not taking the test !!
I can post them if you want to take a test everyday? Waste of taxpayers money keep sending them here.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:10 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:26 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm
MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:28 pm

We have way lower covid than the UK
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
Our tests per million is half of the UK's.

I know NI seems to do a low per capita amount of tests but overall the UK seems to do a ton of testing.

Given their positivity, I don't see how we're lower than the UK for infections. They're below us in terms of ICU too.
Apologies - I assumed that NI was the same as the rest of the U.K. for testing.

Anyway:
Ireland 4,666 covid deaths
U.K. 127,000 covid deaths

End of discussion really
Don't you worry, son, I'll be discussing it when I'm sat at the pub in a few weeks.
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DAC_ wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:23 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:10 pm
CM11 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:26 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 5:19 pm
MrDominator wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:56 pm
Que?

Your current infection rate is higher than ours.

50% higher according to Our World in Data.
We test way more than the U.K. - the one thing Trump was right about. We had 2 covid deaths in the past 24hours for example. Our overall stats for the pandemic are a fraction of the UK’s.
Our tests per million is half of the UK's.

I know NI seems to do a low per capita amount of tests but overall the UK seems to do a ton of testing.

Given their positivity, I don't see how we're lower than the UK for infections. They're below us in terms of ICU too.
Apologies - I assumed that NI was the same as the rest of the U.K. for testing.

Anyway:
Ireland 4,666 covid deaths
U.K. 127,000 covid deaths

End of discussion really
Don't you worry, son, I'll be discussing it when I'm sat at the pub in a few weeks.
With a vaccine passport all going well :thumbup:
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There won’t be a vaccine passport in a few weeks ..... the pubs will be (sort of ) open.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:19 pm
ovalball wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:02 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Bt you're happy to risk someone else's health/life by not taking the test !!
I can post them if you want to take a test everyday? Waste of taxpayers money keep sending them here.
It's only a waste if you don't take the tests. Just because you don't see symptoms in anyone you've been in contact with, doesn't mean they haven't infected you.
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DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Ah, so you're the kind of person who's to blame for this shit. Got it.
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Yeah the pandemic is my fault. Get a grip honestly.
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fudge sake Dragster.
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Once the 50 and overs are all done it’s time to open things back up properly. No social distancing and no masks.

Let the good times roll.
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Biffer29 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:52 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Ah, so you're the kind of person who's to blame for this shit. Got it.
I did not know DD lived in China
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Biffer29 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:52 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Ah, so you're the kind of person who's to blame for this shit. Got it.


Mass testing of the healthy isn’t a good policy and causes more problems than not. It’s was frowned upon and backed with actual science a short while ago.

Now if you’re of that view then you’re Pol Pot.

It’s very odd.
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ovalball wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:02 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Bt you're happy to risk someone else's health/life by not taking the test !!


This of course is insanity......

Why don’t you just stay in ffs,
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Derwyn wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:03 pm Once the 50 and overs are all done it’s time to open things back up properly. No social distancing and no masks.

Let the good times roll.
The elderly and vunerable are pretty much done now, end game.
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bimboman wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:13 pm
ovalball wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:02 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:37 pm Test and trace.

I’m not taking a test if I’m not ill, and nobody I’ve been in contact with is showing symptoms either.
Bt you're happy to risk someone else's health/life by not taking the test !!


This of course is insanity......

Why don’t you just stay in ffs,
I’ve worked everyday of the pandemic, I’ll have had the virus and if I’m still capable of spreading it- I just can’t help that.
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