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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:12 pm
DOB wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:11 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:01 pm
Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:43 pm We thought the wife might have it but three antigen tests over a few days and nothing. Don't people get a normal seasonal cough anymore?
Antigen tests are only about 80% accurate.
And don't forget all the side effects. Has anyone really investigated the long-term effects of antigen tests?
The Chinese make the lateral flow antigen tests?? IS that why they're so shit?
If only they made and did stuff as awesome as us....if they did, we wouldn't be so shit
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Mick Mannock wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:23 am
puku wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:58 am
I think you mean DNA.

The issue with DNA based vaccines is that they have to cross two lipid membranes to get to the nucleus to become active. Just cut out the intermediary and avoid any potential for recombination with the host DNA.
Sorry, yes I do. DNA

I assume you are familiar with Cellectra delivery device
Yes. Neat device and would keep the vaccine localized. However, my point still stands about the greater difficulty of getting nucleic acids across two lipid bilayers rather than one though.

The only pro I see to DNA based vaccines is their potential shelf life is longer than mRNA based vaccines. They have a lot of downsides and if you are worried about mRNA sticking around, you should be extremely concerned about circular DNA based vaccines that are targeted to the nucleus.
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bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
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:thumbdown:
Covid will probably eventually after a few years be regarded in the same way as the flu is atm.

That would be a more accurate assessment but not as good a headline.

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Lolz at the UK not allowing fully vaccinated traveller's from certain previous colonies. Proper plum. :lol:
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sorCrer wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:20 am Lolz at the UK not allowing fully vaccinated traveller's from certain previous colonies. Proper plum. :lol:
We allow anyone who quarantines or comes in an inflatable boat.
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message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:44 pm I should have known better than to have posted an article about women's health on a bored where members have little interest in women
Welcome to my world.....
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:37 am Dame Sarah Gilbert breaks ranks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e#comments
Err she is not breaking ranks at all.
See above
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C69 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:40 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:37 am Dame Sarah Gilbert breaks ranks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e#comments
Err she ia not breaking ranks at all.
She appears to have deviated from the terror-porn narrative
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:41 am
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:40 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:37 am Dame Sarah Gilbert breaks ranks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e#comments
Err she ia not breaking ranks at all.
She appears to have deviated from the terror-porn narrative
Her view is very consistent with what most so called experts have said about the eventual management of Covid. Based upon historical analysis of prevoous Covid virus and other pandemics.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.

Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.

Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm
bimboman wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:25 pm Another real scandal...


https://twitter.com/DrCharlesL/status/1 ... 4181456902
2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.
ONS gives 11,035 as the provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales for the week ending 10 September 2021. The number recorded for the preceding week was 8,797.

This is all registered deaths, mind you, and not the number of deaths exceeding an 'expected' number gauged by a five year rolling average, i.e. excess deaths.
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Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:41 am
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:40 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:37 am Dame Sarah Gilbert breaks ranks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e#comments
Err she ia not breaking ranks at all.
She appears to have deviated from the terror-porn narrative
The same one where Boris says we have to learn to live with COVID over time?
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:51 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:22 pm

2000 people a week die in the UK. There is currently no excess mortality. Who is that idiot?
Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.

Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.

Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
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eldanielfire wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:56 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:41 am
C69 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:40 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:37 am Dame Sarah Gilbert breaks ranks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... e#comments
Err she ia not breaking ranks at all.
She appears to have deviated from the terror-porn narrative
The same one where Boris says we have to learn to live with COVID over time?

Was that before or after he made decisions that destroyed the economy and peoples lives ?
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:51 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am
Mick Mannock wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 am

Unless I have missed the point, last week's figure was about 50% increase to nearly 3000.
I seriously doubt that.

Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.

Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:05 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:51 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:49 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:20 am

I seriously doubt that.

Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.

Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9

What the matter ?

People are being consigned to death by the decisions made by our government and health services. GP appointments have collapsed , sadly people are staying home and dying. You keep on defending this suffering all you like , but the people won’t forgive this.
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:15 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:05 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:51 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:49 am


Sadly your doubts aren’t enough. There’s excess death and massively so in the home setting. Lockdown birds coming home to roost already. The figures are from the ONS btw.
Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.

Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9

What the matter ?

People are being consigned to death by the decisions made by our government and health services. GP appointments have collapsed , sadly people are staying home and dying. You keep on defending this suffering all you like , but the people won’t forgive this.
There is no excess mortality. It's the place of death that is affected. People aren't going to hospital and then being discharged to a hospice because they can't be 'cured'.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:17 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:15 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:05 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:01 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:51 am

Deaths have shifted from hospital to 'home' settings. There is no excess death, just place of death that's shifted.

Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9

What the matter ?

People are being consigned to death by the decisions made by our government and health services. GP appointments have collapsed , sadly people are staying home and dying. You keep on defending this suffering all you like , but the people won’t forgive this.
There is no excess mortality. It's the place of death that is affected. People aren't going to hospital and then being discharged to a hospice because they can't be 'cured'.

Get f**ked.
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:18 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:17 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:15 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:05 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:01 am


Get f ucked there’s been excess deaths all year. And yes there’s a bigger affect on deaths in the home, what the f uck do you think these are?
What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9

What the matter ?

People are being consigned to death by the decisions made by our government and health services. GP appointments have collapsed , sadly people are staying home and dying. You keep on defending this suffering all you like , but the people won’t forgive this.
There is no excess mortality. It's the place of death that is affected. People aren't going to hospital and then being discharged to a hospice because they can't be 'cured'.

Get f**ked.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:24 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:18 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:17 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:15 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:05 am

What is the matter with you? You want it to be true so it is? Excess mortality is within normal boundaries, and has only exceeded it during covid peaks.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoi ... IsImMiOjh9

What the matter ?

People are being consigned to death by the decisions made by our government and health services. GP appointments have collapsed , sadly people are staying home and dying. You keep on defending this suffering all you like , but the people won’t forgive this.
There is no excess mortality. It's the place of death that is affected. People aren't going to hospital and then being discharged to a hospice because they can't be 'cured'.

Get f**ked.
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The excess deaths are far higher, you can get f ucked.
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Message - I think you finally broke him :lol:
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No they're not

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feckwanker wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:36 am Message - I think you finally broke him :lol:

Not at all, though a personal loss has exasperated my mood with the disgusting treatment we in the U.K. have received from our government and health services. Cancelled GP appointments cost lives.
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If the covid cultists are to believed then we should keep lock own forever.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:39 am No they're not

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That’s showing an amount of excess deaths you previously denied.
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:41 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:39 am No they're not

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That’s showing an amount of excess deaths you previously denied.
I said it's within normal variation. As is the earlier dearth of mortality in the graph.
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message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:43 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:41 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:39 am No they're not

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That’s showing an amount of excess deaths you previously denied.
I said it's within normal variation. As is the earlier dearth of mortality in the graph.

“Normal” as you’ve decided, considering these are almost exclusively in the home and non covid there’s nothing “normal” about them. They’re a massive state failure.
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bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:45 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:43 am
bimboman wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:41 am
message #2527204 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:39 am No they're not

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That’s showing an amount of excess deaths you previously denied.
I said it's within normal variation. As is the earlier dearth of mortality in the graph.

“Normal” as you’ve decided, considering these are almost exclusively in the home and non covid there’s nothing “normal” about them. They’re a massive state failure.
Statistically 'normal'.
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I'm not sure why you're bothering message given that the link you provided above proves your point (or at the very least disproves his). He's clearly not interested in evidence which goes against what he's decided (I love the self awareness of accusing you of deciding what's normal!).
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Bimbo is allowing emotion to cloud the facts here.
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CM11 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:34 pm I'm not sure why you're bothering message given that the link you provided above proves your point (or at the very least disproves his). He's clearly not interested in evidence which goes against what he's decided (I love the self awareness of accusing you of deciding what's normal!).

The link shows an excess of deaths all year, it shows a fall in hospice and hospitals lower than the the rise in at home.

It proves exactly what I’ve said.
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