We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.New China virus: Cases triple as infection spreads to Beijing and Shanghai
The number of people infected with a new virus in China tripled over the weekend, with the outbreak spreading from Wuhan to other major cities.
There are now more than 200 cases, mostly in Wuhan, though the respiratory illness has also been detected in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.
Three people have died. Japan, Thailand and South Korea have reported cases.
The new strain of coronavirus, which causes a type of pneumonia, can pass from person to person, China confirmed.
Respiratory expert Zhong Nanshan, who heads the health commission team investigating the virus, said 14 medical workers had caught it while treating patients, state media reported.
The sharp rise comes as millions of Chinese prepare to travel for the Lunar New Year holidays.
Although the outbreak is believed to have originated from a market, officials and scientists are yet to determine exactly how it has been spreading.
The outbreak has revived memories of the Sars virus - also a coronavirus - that killed 774 people in the early 2000s across dozens of countries, mostly in Asia. Analysis of the genetic code of the new virus shows it is more closely related to Sars than any other human coronavirus.
Experts in the UK told the BBC the number of people infected could still be far greater than official figures suggest, with estimates closer to 1,700.
Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
Coronavirus Thread. Virus v humans
So, another storm comes down flunado alley.
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Or one developed.
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Put down your copy of "The Stand".6.Jones wrote:But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
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There's a confirmed case in Brisbane, a guy who recently travelled to China is currently confined to home for treatment.
I pretty much expect something like that. Our defenses are weakened through our reliance on antibiotics and 'easy' medicine... our options are narrowing and there's a possibility of older viruses escaping into the wild through permafrost thaw and the like.We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
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An underrated book.Caley_Red wrote:Put down your copy of "The Stand".6.Jones wrote:But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
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Underrated? By whom?6.Jones wrote:An underrated book.Caley_Red wrote:Put down your copy of "The Stand".6.Jones wrote:But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
It's in my top 3 (It is also there). Even the updated version with an extra 200 pages of filler.
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Yep it’s one of my go to books must have read it 3 or 4 timesThomas wrote:Underrated? By whom?6.Jones wrote:An underrated book.Caley_Red wrote:Put down your copy of "The Stand".6.Jones wrote:But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
It's in my top 3 (It is also there). Even the updated version with an extra 200 pages of filler.
MOON that spells brilliant
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Do any US politicians own the miracle cure again like Rumsfeld and Tamiflu
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The world already has too many people. I say bring the killer flu on.
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J Man wrote:The world already has too many people. I say bring the killer flu on.
Could we hold off for 20 years or so (maybe less but not too much)?
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Obviously you are one of the volunteer to die next month.J Man wrote:The world already has too many people. I say bring the killer flu on.
Right?
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I am more optimistic. The post-antibiotics world is a bit like peak oil. Its always just around the corner. They don't develop new antibiotics as there's no money in it. If a bug comes along that is resistant to everything and starts spreading through the population, they will develop something to kill it. Sure might take a while and millions might die, but.. yeah.guy smiley wrote:There's a confirmed case in Brisbane, a guy who recently travelled to China is currently confined to home for treatment.
I pretty much expect something like that. Our defenses are weakened through our reliance on antibiotics and 'easy' medicine... our options are narrowing and there's a possibility of older viruses escaping into the wild through permafrost thaw and the like.We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
As for a virus? Yeah bit scarier. Pop that tamiflu asap.
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I am feeling a bit Sniffly ...,
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Interesting that our body temperatures have dropped over the last century. I'm blaming climate change and the ECB.
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Tamiflu is for flu virus, whereas this one is related to Sars. Is it going to help?Sensible Stephen wrote:I am more optimistic. The post-antibiotics world is a bit like peak oil. Its always just around the corner. They don't develop new antibiotics as there's no money in it. If a bug comes along that is resistant to everything and starts spreading through the population, they will develop something to kill it. Sure might take a while and millions might die, but.. yeah.guy smiley wrote:There's a confirmed case in Brisbane, a guy who recently travelled to China is currently confined to home for treatment.
I pretty much expect something like that. Our defenses are weakened through our reliance on antibiotics and 'easy' medicine... our options are narrowing and there's a possibility of older viruses escaping into the wild through permafrost thaw and the like.We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
As for a virus? Yeah bit scarier. Pop that tamiflu asap.
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Antibiotics are designed to kill bacteria so it's hard to see how they would reduce our immunity to viruses.
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Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
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It would certainly provide a climate change bailout, but would we then just not change?6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
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Yeah, it'd have to wipe out dumb people.Gwenno wrote:It would certainly provide a climate change bailout, but would we then just not change?6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
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Odds are you'd be left with a significantly loud minority of Believers worshipping a second chance and sermonising some twisted rip off of something left field like a 70s post apocalypse B grade Hollywood stinker.6.Jones wrote:Yeah, it'd have to wipe out dumb people.Gwenno wrote:It would certainly provide a climate change bailout, but would we then just not change?6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
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6.Jones wrote:
We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
The nature of epidemics in the modern world mean that something infectious enough to spread to a significant amount of the population without governments intervening early is likely to have a lethality too low to cause a big death toll
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Some people on this thread have been watching too much Infinity War and V Wars.
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Zoonosis man it's a major threat.
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Or listening to David Attenborough:pjm1 wrote:Some people on this thread have been watching too much Infinity War and V Wars.

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Thanos was right...
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Found first case in the U.S. Person in Washington State (Pacific Northwest) that had returned from Wuhan, China.
Source reported to be a poultry/seafood market in Wuhan.
WHO meeting tomorrow.
Source reported to be a poultry/seafood market in Wuhan.
WHO meeting tomorrow.
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Something that kills people quickly with a short incubation time should stay regionalized (people get too sick before they have a chance to travel far and spread it around). The real danger is anything that has a longer incubation time, because it would've spread by the time any kind of quarantine was put in place.deadduck wrote:6.Jones wrote:
We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
The nature of epidemics in the modern world mean that something infectious enough to spread to a significant amount of the population without governments intervening early is likely to have a lethality too low to cause a big death toll
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6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
That’s a tremendously worrying view. Well done,
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Hello Gwenno meet Mr Malthus.Gwenno wrote:It would certainly provide a climate change bailout, but would we then just not change?6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
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That's pretty exact. I think I'm with deadduck. That requires engineering.Flyin Ryan wrote:Something that kills people quickly with a short incubation time should stay regionalized (people get too sick before they have a chance to travel far and spread it around). The real danger is anything that has a longer incubation time, because it would've spread by the time any kind of quarantine was put in place.deadduck wrote:6.Jones wrote:
We're still waiting for the big one. Like the Y2k bug, there's widespread scepticism that it's a real thing. But one day a bug will evolve with the right stats that beats our defences.
The nature of epidemics in the modern world mean that something infectious enough to spread to a significant amount of the population without governments intervening early is likely to have a lethality too low to cause a big death toll
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It means we last longer.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
That’s a tremendously worrying view. Well done,
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6.Jones wrote:It means we last longer.bimboman wrote:6.Jones wrote:Sensible Stephen is right. The likely worst case is lots of dead people. They were going to die anyway. It's hard to imagine a virus that wipes out our species, unless it is engineered to do so.
From a brutal, species preservation point of view, wiping out half of us now wouldn't be such a bad thing. The remaining half would put a lot less load on the planet.
That’s a tremendously worrying view. Well done,
Well as long as you’re in the lucky “we” club.
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When Groucho talks about wiping out half of all humanity, he's talking about the "right" "half".
Watch out bimbo, Seneca et al.
Watch out bimbo, Seneca et al.
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first confirmed case in the US... either quarantine everyone inbound from China, or add your patch to the quickly growing list
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BBC page says 300 cases, 6 deaths! If 2% mortality is maintained when the number of cases multiplies......shit!
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Just googled mortality for Spanish flu - 20%, killing about 3% of the world in 1919 - so we're not facing a rerun of 'survivors' quite yet.Gwenno wrote:BBC page says 300 cases, 6 deaths! If 2% mortality is maintained when the number of cases multiplies......shit!
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We're much better at keeping the zombies alive now.Gwenno wrote:Just googled mortality for Spanish flu - 20%, killing about 3% of the world in 1919 - so we're not facing a rerun of 'survivors' quite yet.Gwenno wrote:BBC page says 300 cases, 6 deaths! If 2% mortality is maintained when the number of cases multiplies......shit!
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I've got and IPC meeting today and will have a chat with our Microbiologist about this.
Better get shares in FFP3 mask manufacturers.
Better get shares in FFP3 mask manufacturers.
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Better yet, buy the shares of companies with big pension deficits.c69 wrote:I've got and IPC meeting today and will have a chat with our Microbiologist about this.
Better get shares in FFP3 mask manufacturers.
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Is that because those debts will disappear if everyone dies? Good strategy. Or go long on pension funds. Then you get leverage.A5D5E5 wrote:Better yet, buy the shares of companies with big pension deficits.c69 wrote:I've got and IPC meeting today and will have a chat with our Microbiologist about this.
Better get shares in FFP3 mask manufacturers.
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