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Rinkals wrote:

Yourmother wrote:Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..

eldanielfire wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

Yourmother wrote:Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..

Come on, even Bimbo haters are not seriously claiming it was anything but a typo and it's backed up by the capitalisation of it. The typo sentence was hardly something that was Bimbo-like either.

Rinkals wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

Yourmother wrote:Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..

Come on, even Bimbo haters are not seriously claiming it was anything but a typo and it's backed up by the capitalisation of it. The typo sentence was hardly something that was Bimbo-like either.

As I say, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd intended the comment. I'm not really convinced by the capitalisation argument either.

Rinkals wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

Yourmother wrote:Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..

Come on, even Bimbo haters are not seriously claiming it was anything but a typo and it's backed up by the capitalisation of it. The typo sentence was hardly something that was Bimbo-like either.

As I say, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd intended the comment. I'm not really convinced by the capitalisation argument either.

sorCrer wrote:He is all over NPR, stinking it up.

sonic_attack wrote:I don't know why you guys get so wound up about him.

CM11 wrote:

sonic_attack wrote:I don't know why you guys get so wound up about him.

It's the total lack of engagement that finally made me ignore him a few months ago. There are far worse on my ignore list but he just hasn't properly engaged with anyone in ages. It's just a relentless stream of opposition to anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint. Biffer had it sussed with his short program but his lack of seif awareness meant it didn't make a dint.

Leinsterman wrote:

CM11 wrote:

sonic_attack wrote:I don't know why you guys get so wound up about him.

It's the total lack of engagement that finally made me ignore him a few months ago. There are far worse on my ignore list but he just hasn't properly engaged with anyone in ages. It's just a relentless stream of opposition to anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint. Biffer had it sussed with his short program but his lack of seif awareness meant it didn't make a dint.

He doesn't have a viewpoint. He just disagrees with people for the sake of it and then nit picks

An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.

Nolanator wrote:He has been, we were keeping an eye to see how bed behave, but he was busy polluting threads again.

I don't understand why people bother to engage him.

Enzedder wrote:How's everyone enjoying the Olympics?

Muttonbirds wrote:

Enzedder wrote:How's everyone enjoying the Olympics?

America top of the leaderboard.

ovalball wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

Rinkals wrote:

Yourmother wrote:Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..

Come on, even Bimbo haters are not seriously claiming it was anything but a typo and it's backed up by the capitalisation of it. The typo sentence was hardly something that was Bimbo-like either.

As I say, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd intended the comment. I'm not really convinced by the capitalisation argument either.

I doubt he'd be very forgiving of a typo, like that, had it been from a left wing source.

Nolanator wrote:I don't, I ignore him, but loads of others directly interact with him and otherwise interesting threads become unreadable.
Globby had the same effect, but would just talk about himself rather than argue with everyone about trivial shit.

Leinsterman wrote:

CM11 wrote:

sonic_attack wrote:I don't know why you guys get so wound up about him.

It's the total lack of engagement that finally made me ignore him a few months ago. There are far worse on my ignore list but he just hasn't properly engaged with anyone in ages. It's just a relentless stream of opposition to anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint. Biffer had it sussed with his short program but his lack of seif awareness meant it didn't make a dint.

He doesn't have a viewpoint. He just disagrees with people for the sake of it and then nit picks

The Optimist wrote:

An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.

Rise of the anti-maskers: The psychology of why face coverings are causing so much upset
Face masks, say experts, can make people uncomfortable because of links to crime and disease and how they change human interaction

By
Sarah Knapton,
SCIENCE EDITOR
27 July 2020 • 6:49pm

A divisive new battleground has emerged in recent weeks between Britons who are angry at being forced to wear face masks, and those equally furious about non-compliance.

Libertarians, massing under the banner 'Keep Britain Free', complain that covering up is an affront to civil rights, and largely pointless when pubs and restaurants are exempt.

Pro-maskers, operating under the ‘mask it or casket’ slogan, brand the dissenters selfish, with some shops even installing mirrors which state: “We have provided this space away from everyone else where you can stare at your reflection, since apparently you’re the only person you care about.”

Somewhere in the middle are those who grudgingly wear masks, but still feel a gnawing unease.

But according to experts, there are fundamental reasons why masks make people uncomfortable, ranging from their historical links to crime and disease, to how they change human interaction.


Masks can make it difficult to hear what people are saying, dampen down empathy responses and leave people unable to make quick judgments about whether to trust an approaching stranger. They can even invoke a sense of humiliation and shame.

Dr Becky Spelman, psychologist and clinical director of the Private Therapy Clinic in Harley Street, argues that being unable to read facial expressions properly can be ‘extremely anxiety provoking.’

“Because masks have been worn by burglars and people who commit crimes, sometimes there is a fear reaction, or an anxious reaction, when we can’t see someone’s face,” she said.

“It also diminishes trust. It’s very hard to trust people when we can’t see what facial expression they are making fully. We don’t know if someone is being friendly towards us.

“We’re having to work so much harder to try and find out people’s intentions and that is extremely anxiety provoking and frustrating for people.”

Research has shown that patients feel less empathy from doctors and dentists who wear masks during treatment.

Dr Dimitrios Tsivrikos, a Consumer and Business Psychologist at University College London (UCL), said the same effect will make shops and public transport seem far less friendly while masks are compulsory.

“How we psychologically view each other is very much about seeing the face,” he said,

“People are looking for small micro-movements around the mouth particularly. You might come across someone on the Tube and you’re wary of them and then they crack a smile and you feel ok, so we use faces to feel safe.

“There have been loads of studies when people view only a part of one’s face they struggle to communicate. We need the whole face to decode the emotions.”


Digby Tantan, Clinical Professor of Psychotherapy at the University of Sheffield, believes that the brain is constantly working hard to pick up tiny micro-signals that communicate what a person is thinking.

People tend to read faces differently, so those who rely on the lower face for such signals will struggle with masks more than people who tend to look at the eyes.

Studies have also shown that when looking at angry or fearful faces, the eyes, nasolabial folds - which run from the nose to the edge of the lips - and the mouth draw a disproportionate amount of the gaze.

“There may be a general effect of discomfort because we cannot scan around another person's mouth, this is likely to mainly affect those people who normally spend more time scanning around the mouth of another person and rely on it for an update on whether or not they pose a threat,” he said.

Prof Tantam also believes face coverings have become culturally bound up with feelings of oppressive authority or religion, which may make people uncomfortable.


But he also thinks that there may be some truth in the pro-maskers arguments that those who refuse to comply may be less civic-minded and more likely to believe they are not an infection threat.

“If one's priority is to look after oneself and ignore others, there's no point to wearing a mask. If one is altruistically motivated, there is every point,” he added.

“Even more primitively, if one believes that one's body is pure but other people's bodies are contaminated, wearing a mask is an affront. If one accepts that one can be as readily contaminated or infected as everyone else, wearing a mask is the obvious public health thing to do.”

Unlike other countries, Britain has been slow on the uptake of masks. According to YouGov, just 38 per cent of people were wearing masks in public before new legislation was enacted, compared to 88 per cent of people in Spain in 90 per cent in Singapore.

Polling shows that the main reason for people wearing a mask is that they believe there is little risk to themselves or for other people. Britons have also complained about feeling silly wearing a mask, while others believe it makes people think they have the virus.

Confusion about when and where to wear masks is also adding to non-compliance, say behavioural experts. And politicians continue to send out mixed messages.

Dr Sander van der Linden, social psychologist on the faculty in the Department of Psychology at the University of Cambridge, said: “Most people have not seen politicians wearing a mask, so there is a lack of clear signalling and good role models, and it doesn’t appear mandatory.

“The communication has been quite confusing. People do understand you have to wear it on transport but they don’t seem to be fully aware that it’s mandatory in shops and enclosed spaces.”

However in Scotland, where masks became compulsory two weeks earlier that in Britain there are signs that people are getting used to the idea.

Stephen Reicher, Professor of Social Psychology at the University of St Andrews, said that masks had initially been treated with suspicion, but widespread compliance had led to people feeling more comfortable.

“Masks can invoke a sense of humiliation and shame – if I cover I must have something shameful I don’t want people to see,” he said.

“I remember the first time I wore a mask. A man pauses before he goes into a shop, covers his face, walks in. Traditionally that would signify danger. It would mark me out as someone dangerous and disreputable.

“It felt odd. But of course rather than flinching, the shop staff were extra friendly because my mask protected them. The meaning and identity changed from ‘danger’ and ‘outlaw’ to ‘safety’ and ‘friend’.

“The change can happen very quickly… in Scotland the sense is very much ‘what was the fuss all about’? Same with seatbelts. Now it feels very odd not to wear them.”

eldanielfire wrote:

Nolanator wrote:I don't, I ignore him, but loads of others directly interact with him and otherwise interesting threads become unreadable.
Globby had the same effect, but would just talk about himself rather than argue with everyone about trivial shit.

I'm starting to get the impression people love winding him up. And yeah going back to Globby, people moaned about his shite but where drawn to his thread destroying posts like Flies to shit.

Rinkals wrote:

Nolanator wrote:He has been, we were keeping an eye to see how bed behave, but he was busy polluting threads again.

I don't understand why people bother to engage him.

Because if you don't, his version of events is never challenged and becomes accepted.

I was thinking about why CP failed, and I came to the conclusion that, with so many posters slapping each other's backs, there was very little robust discussion and much of the conversation was just bland, and I think if you just accept a ludicrous position without confronting it, then the discourse loses value.

Jerpy, and others of his ilk, were pretty hard on you if you posted something stupid in the old days and I think that kept the discussion honest; if you indulged in the sort of narcissism that characterises a lot of Bimbo's posts, you'd pretty soon get taken down a peg or two.

I'm not Jerpy and I'm nowhere near as effective in this as some other posters on here, but, if the new bored is to survive, it needs posters who are prepared to engage with insight and intelligence (of which I mostly, sadly, lack) and are not afraid to give their opinions.

Wishy-washy won't cut it.

Rinkals wrote:

Nolanator wrote:He has been, we were keeping an eye to see how bed behave, but he was busy polluting threads again.

I don't understand why people bother to engage him.

Because if you don't, his version of events is never challenged and becomes accepted.

I was thinking about why CP failed, and I came to the conclusion that, with so many posters slapping each other's backs, there was very little robust discussion and much of the conversation was just bland, and I think if you just accept a ludicrous position without confronting it, then the discourse loses value.

Jerpy, and others of his ilk, were pretty hard on you if you posted something stupid in the old days and I think that kept the discussion honest; if you indulged in the sort of narcissism that characterises a lot of Bimbo's posts, you'd pretty soon get taken down a peg or two.

I'm not Jerpy and I'm nowhere near as effective in this as some other posters on here, but, if the new bored is to survive, it needs posters who are prepared to engage with insight and intelligence (of which I mostly, sadly, lack) and are not afraid to give their opinions.

Wishy-washy won't cut it.

kiwinoz wrote:US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/ ... onference/

Harveys wrote:

4071 wrote:

Harveys wrote:It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim

Antifa?

In what way?

You do get that was a joke?

kiwinoz wrote:US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/ ... onference/

6.Jones wrote:

Harveys wrote:

4071 wrote:

Harveys wrote:It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim

Antifa?

In what way?

You do get that was a joke?

Yep, everyone knows which side of the culture wars masks are mainly worn on.

kiwinoz wrote:A very small number of US Doctors, none of whom are virologists, give a different view to the majority of US doctors and experts in the field, as well as big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the worst copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results, as confirmed by anecdote, rather than any actual testing.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible. In the literal sense of the word.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/ ... onference/

eldanielfire wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.

Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Mr Mike wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.

Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Must be very annoying for pro-pandemic folks.

MungoMan wrote:

6.Jones wrote:

Harveys wrote:

4071 wrote:

Harveys wrote:It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim

Antifa?

In what way?

You do get that was a joke?

Yep, everyone knows which side of the culture wars masks are mainly worn on.

He was a small time politician
Or a tele-prompter's charge trying to
Bury a misdeed from way back when
And so he lined all of the
Hacks up on the grass
Called them gentlemen and friends
Gave his dog whistle a blast
And every face there was a mask
What is anybody doing who ain't pretending?
What is anybody doing
Why would he frighten off his friends
With something useless as the truth?

Still in Buggeritup, groucho, or did a late night jet flight spirit you away to a dacha in the boreal forests?

eldanielfire wrote:

Mr Mike wrote:

eldanielfire wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.

Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Must be very annoying for pro-pandemic folks.

happyhooker wrote:Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic

happyhooker wrote:Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic