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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:54 am 
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How's everyone enjoying the Olympics?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 am 
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How's everyone enjoying the Olympics?
America top of the leaderboard. :(


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How's everyone enjoying the Olympics?
America top of the leaderboard. :(


Surely Albania or Afghanistan? Even before America isn't a country


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:17 am 
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Sounds as though he’s been quarantined.

He made a comment about Jews, for which he was canned.

Some claim that it was a typo and he meant to say "News", but I'm not so sure. I thought he had ample time to retract and correct. Other posters may offer the excuse that they are not on the bored 24/7, but I don't think Bimbo would get away with saying that..


Come on, even Bimbo haters are not seriously claiming it was anything but a typo and it's backed up by the capitalisation of it. The typo sentence was hardly something that was Bimbo-like either.

As I say, it wouldn't surprise me if he'd intended the comment. I'm not really convinced by the capitalisation argument either.


I doubt he'd be very forgiving of a typo, like that, had it been from a left wing source.


No doubt Bimboman would scream 'Evil Marxist racism' for 15 pages.


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I don't, I ignore him, but loads of others directly interact with him and otherwise interesting threads become unreadable.
Globby had the same effect, but would just talk about himself rather than argue with everyone about trivial shit.


I'm starting to get the impression people love winding him up. And yeah going back to Globby, people moaned about his shite but where drawn to his thread destroying posts like Flies to shit.


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I don't know why you guys get so wound up about him.


It's the total lack of engagement that finally made me ignore him a few months ago. There are far worse on my ignore list but he just hasn't properly engaged with anyone in ages. It's just a relentless stream of opposition to anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint. Biffer had it sussed with his short program but his lack of seif awareness meant it didn't make a dint.


He doesn't have a viewpoint. He just disagrees with people for the sake of it and then nit picks



But he attacks always from vaguely right leaning, small government, free market, pro-capitalist, anti-Marxist extremist.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:23 am 
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An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.


Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?


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AN interesting angle on the psychology of anti-maskers. Personally I think it's a bit more political. Early o when Democrats where ignoring the virus and encouraging Chinatoen celebrations, I believe it was as much a reaction to Trump as any logic.

Likewise anti-Maskers currently are mostly republican/anti-big government types who oppose government interference, claim the government(s) are out to get them with various conspiracies and probably follow Ann Rynd bollocks.

Still for those who are so political and don't like masks I think this covers a good number of reasons why masks are unsettling for some:

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Rise of the anti-maskers: The psychology of why face coverings are causing so much upset
Face masks, say experts, can make people uncomfortable because of links to crime and disease and how they change human interaction

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27 July 2020 • 6:49pm

A divisive new battleground has emerged in recent weeks between Britons who are angry at being forced to wear face masks, and those equally furious about non-compliance.

Libertarians, massing under the banner 'Keep Britain Free', complain that covering up is an affront to civil rights, and largely pointless when pubs and restaurants are exempt.

Pro-maskers, operating under the ‘mask it or casket’ slogan, brand the dissenters selfish, with some shops even installing mirrors which state: “We have provided this space away from everyone else where you can stare at your reflection, since apparently you’re the only person you care about.”

Somewhere in the middle are those who grudgingly wear masks, but still feel a gnawing unease.

But according to experts, there are fundamental reasons why masks make people uncomfortable, ranging from their historical links to crime and disease, to how they change human interaction.


Masks can make it difficult to hear what people are saying, dampen down empathy responses and leave people unable to make quick judgments about whether to trust an approaching stranger. They can even invoke a sense of humiliation and shame.

Dr Becky Spelman, psychologist and clinical director of the Private Therapy Clinic in Harley Street, argues that being unable to read facial expressions properly can be ‘extremely anxiety provoking.’

“Because masks have been worn by burglars and people who commit crimes, sometimes there is a fear reaction, or an anxious reaction, when we can’t see someone’s face,” she said.

“It also diminishes trust. It’s very hard to trust people when we can’t see what facial expression they are making fully. We don’t know if someone is being friendly towards us.

“We’re having to work so much harder to try and find out people’s intentions and that is extremely anxiety provoking and frustrating for people.”

Research has shown that patients feel less empathy from doctors and dentists who wear masks during treatment.

Dr Dimitrios Tsivrikos, a Consumer and Business Psychologist at University College London (UCL), said the same effect will make shops and public transport seem far less friendly while masks are compulsory.

“How we psychologically view each other is very much about seeing the face,” he said,

“People are looking for small micro-movements around the mouth particularly. You might come across someone on the Tube and you’re wary of them and then they crack a smile and you feel ok, so we use faces to feel safe.

“There have been loads of studies when people view only a part of one’s face they struggle to communicate. We need the whole face to decode the emotions.”


Digby Tantan, Clinical Professor of Psychotherapy at the University of Sheffield, believes that the brain is constantly working hard to pick up tiny micro-signals that communicate what a person is thinking.

People tend to read faces differently, so those who rely on the lower face for such signals will struggle with masks more than people who tend to look at the eyes.

Studies have also shown that when looking at angry or fearful faces, the eyes, nasolabial folds - which run from the nose to the edge of the lips - and the mouth draw a disproportionate amount of the gaze.

“There may be a general effect of discomfort because we cannot scan around another person's mouth, this is likely to mainly affect those people who normally spend more time scanning around the mouth of another person and rely on it for an update on whether or not they pose a threat,” he said.

Prof Tantam also believes face coverings have become culturally bound up with feelings of oppressive authority or religion, which may make people uncomfortable.


But he also thinks that there may be some truth in the pro-maskers arguments that those who refuse to comply may be less civic-minded and more likely to believe they are not an infection threat.

“If one's priority is to look after oneself and ignore others, there's no point to wearing a mask. If one is altruistically motivated, there is every point,” he added.

“Even more primitively, if one believes that one's body is pure but other people's bodies are contaminated, wearing a mask is an affront. If one accepts that one can be as readily contaminated or infected as everyone else, wearing a mask is the obvious public health thing to do.”

Unlike other countries, Britain has been slow on the uptake of masks. According to YouGov, just 38 per cent of people were wearing masks in public before new legislation was enacted, compared to 88 per cent of people in Spain in 90 per cent in Singapore.

Polling shows that the main reason for people wearing a mask is that they believe there is little risk to themselves or for other people. Britons have also complained about feeling silly wearing a mask, while others believe it makes people think they have the virus.

Confusion about when and where to wear masks is also adding to non-compliance, say behavioural experts. And politicians continue to send out mixed messages.

Dr Sander van der Linden, social psychologist on the faculty in the Department of Psychology at the University of Cambridge, said: “Most people have not seen politicians wearing a mask, so there is a lack of clear signalling and good role models, and it doesn’t appear mandatory.

“The communication has been quite confusing. People do understand you have to wear it on transport but they don’t seem to be fully aware that it’s mandatory in shops and enclosed spaces.”

However in Scotland, where masks became compulsory two weeks earlier that in Britain there are signs that people are getting used to the idea.

Stephen Reicher, Professor of Social Psychology at the University of St Andrews, said that masks had initially been treated with suspicion, but widespread compliance had led to people feeling more comfortable.

“Masks can invoke a sense of humiliation and shame – if I cover I must have something shameful I don’t want people to see,” he said.

“I remember the first time I wore a mask. A man pauses before he goes into a shop, covers his face, walks in. Traditionally that would signify danger. It would mark me out as someone dangerous and disreputable.

“It felt odd. But of course rather than flinching, the shop staff were extra friendly because my mask protected them. The meaning and identity changed from ‘danger’ and ‘outlaw’ to ‘safety’ and ‘friend’.

“The change can happen very quickly… in Scotland the sense is very much ‘what was the fuss all about’? Same with seatbelts. Now it feels very odd not to wear them.”



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:31 am 
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eldanielfire wrote:
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I don't, I ignore him, but loads of others directly interact with him and otherwise interesting threads become unreadable.
Globby had the same effect, but would just talk about himself rather than argue with everyone about trivial shit.


I'm starting to get the impression people love winding him up. And yeah going back to Globby, people moaned about his shite but where drawn to his thread destroying posts like Flies to shit.


I quite enjoyed taking the piss out of him - but it soon gets boring.

Probably best not to respond to him at all - despite his claims otherwise, he would post much less if no one acknowledged him.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:47 am 
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He has been, we were keeping an eye to see how bed behave, but he was busy polluting threads again.

I don't understand why people bother to engage him.


Because if you don't, his version of events is never challenged and becomes accepted.

I was thinking about why CP failed, and I came to the conclusion that, with so many posters slapping each other's backs, there was very little robust discussion and much of the conversation was just bland, and I think if you just accept a ludicrous position without confronting it, then the discourse loses value.

Jerpy, and others of his ilk, were pretty hard on you if you posted something stupid in the old days and I think that kept the discussion honest; if you indulged in the sort of narcissism that characterises a lot of Bimbo's posts, you'd pretty soon get taken down a peg or two.

I'm not Jerpy and I'm nowhere near as effective in this as some other posters on here, but, if the new bored is to survive, it needs posters who are prepared to engage with insight and intelligence (of which I mostly, sadly, lack) and are not afraid to give their opinions.

Wishy-washy won't cut it.


I think this is a bit rose tinted. Back in the days jerpy constantly attacked posted and many believed abused his mod position to make these attacks a one way battle. It's an easy way to look good when you never or rarely volunteer opinion or start a discussion, but only post to rip holes at others. In balance he could also be viciously funny. However in ways many would deem out of order or offensive these days in a way the board wouldn't accept. Also jerpy got into plenty of shite fests, often with the entire contingent of posters from other countries going on and on for days. Different to Bimbo but similar, he also got way more personnel with posters than Bimbo has ever done. Bimbo for his part just categorizes people as capitalists and marxists e.g. good or bad however simplistic that is.


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He has been, we were keeping an eye to see how bed behave, but he was busy polluting threads again.

I don't understand why people bother to engage him.


Because if you don't, his version of events is never challenged and becomes accepted.

I was thinking about why CP failed, and I came to the conclusion that, with so many posters slapping each other's backs, there was very little robust discussion and much of the conversation was just bland, and I think if you just accept a ludicrous position without confronting it, then the discourse loses value.

Jerpy, and others of his ilk, were pretty hard on you if you posted something stupid in the old days and I think that kept the discussion honest; if you indulged in the sort of narcissism that characterises a lot of Bimbo's posts, you'd pretty soon get taken down a peg or two.

I'm not Jerpy and I'm nowhere near as effective in this as some other posters on here, but, if the new bored is to survive, it needs posters who are prepared to engage with insight and intelligence (of which I mostly, sadly, lack) and are not afraid to give their opinions.

Wishy-washy won't cut it.


Loons like that won't have their opinion accepted. Just let them piss into the wind by themselves. I prefer the Sefton style of "fudge off, you dishonest, scientifically illiterate cunt" than trying to genuinely interact. But I prefer starving them of oxygen above even that. Bimbo/Silver etc aren't going to case people here to change their behaviour IRL for the worse and won't stop posting shit, so there's nothing to be gained by interacting.

CP had a very low regular user count, as everyone came back here immediately once the panic was over. Only the loons stayed, precisely because no-one here took them seriously or engaged for very long. Hence it became a loony bin.
NPR still seems to have a relatively healthy regular user base and ASMO is keen to keep the place running as long as it's viable. We'll see how it pans out, but for now, it's got a decent atmosphere, so there's no point in allowing that kind of pointless toxic arguing to take root.


Anyhoo, not the thread for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:03 am 
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US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:26 am 
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US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

Executive summary: faecebook, tw@tter and pootube removed stuff that originated from barfbot and runs counter to their protocols regarding covid misinfo. So barfbot is packing a sad.

Truly tragic. They are literally Stalin.


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It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim :lol:


Antifa?

In what way?


You do get that was a joke?


Yep, everyone knows which side of the culture wars masks are mainly worn on.


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US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/


Who is doing the silencing of these 'thousands of physicians'? Big pharma? The deep state? The CDC? The mainstream media? The Trump administration? Every world government? The WHO? All these forces of evil, working together, in an axis of disinformation?

Or is it just another conspiracy theory? I always get these fifty:fifty bets wrong.


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It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim :lol:


Antifa?

In what way?


You do get that was a joke?


Yep, everyone knows which side of the culture wars masks are mainly worn on.

He was a small time politician
Or a tele-prompter's charge trying to
Bury a misdeed from way back when
And so he lined all of the
Hacks up on the grass
Called them gentlemen and friends
Gave his dog whistle a blast
And every face there was a mask
What is anybody doing who ain't pretending?
What is anybody doing
Why would he frighten off his friends
With something useless as the truth?


Still in Buggeritup, groucho, or did a late night jet flight spirit you away to a dacha in the boreal forests?


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A very small number of US Doctors, none of whom are virologists, give a different view to the majority of US doctors and experts in the field, as well as big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the worst copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results, as confirmed by anecdote, rather than any actual testing.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible. In the literal sense of the word.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/


A couple of edits for the sake of accuracy.


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An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.


Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Must be very annoying for pro-pandemic folks.


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An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.


Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Must be very annoying for pro-pandemic folks.


:lol:


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MungoMan wrote:
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Harveys wrote:
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Harveys wrote:
It’s like an antifa episode of Kath & Kim :lol:


Antifa?

In what way?


You do get that was a joke?


Yep, everyone knows which side of the culture wars masks are mainly worn on.

He was a small time politician
Or a tele-prompter's charge trying to
Bury a misdeed from way back when
And so he lined all of the
Hacks up on the grass
Called them gentlemen and friends
Gave his dog whistle a blast
And every face there was a mask
What is anybody doing who ain't pretending?
What is anybody doing
Why would he frighten off his friends
With something useless as the truth?


Still in Buggeritup, groucho, or did a late night jet flight spirit you away to a dacha in the boreal forests?


Oh, how I dream of a night in the boreal dacha with antifa Karen. :thumbup:


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eldanielfire wrote:
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An Arkansas senator who shared an article that described the coronavirus pandemic as a “hoax” has contracted Covid-19.

Republican senator Jason Rapert, who unsuccessfully introduced a bill to ban gay marriage in the US in 2017, was hospitalised with coronavirus and pneumonia on 24 July.

Earlier in the year, as many states were beginning to take social distancing measures to attempt to control the spread of the virus, Mr Rapert shared an article on Facebook that called the pandemic the “biggest political hoax in history”.


Funny how many anti-Pandemic idiots get the Coronavirus isn't it?

Must be very annoying for pro-pandemic folks.


:lol:


Actually, I was wondering how few of them get it. Sen. Rapert could have his own verse in "Isn't It Ironic".


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic


Not even "It's like Raaaiiiiiinnnnn on your wedding day"?


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic

Is it ironic that it's named as such, in a meta-irony way?

What should it be called, Redundant?


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic

Apparently that was the song writer’s intentional irony, she thought it would be ironic that a song about irony had no irony.


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic

Is it ironic that it's named as such, in a meta-irony way?

What should it be called, Redundant?


"Person wails about bad luck then pretends it had a double meaning all along" would seem to cover most bases.


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Dying in the plane trip you took to conquer your fear of flight does seem to me to be a little ironic?


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Dying in the plane trip you took to conquer your fear of flight does seem to me to be a little ironic?

I thought he was just playing it safe, not scared of flight?


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Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight


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Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight


Did anybody else read that in their head as "soo-oo-oo-ootcase"?


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Mr. Play It Safe was afraid to fly
He packed his suitcase and kissed his kids goodbye
He waited his whole damn life to take that flight

Ah fairy muff. I must admit it's not a song where I felt the need to memorise the lyrics.


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Anyone who dislikes Alanis and particularly Jagged Little Pill is a massive shit who know srofaam.

Also the word "irony" is evolving if it hasn't flat out evolved. That's language bitches.


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Anyone who dislikes Alanis and particularly Jagged Little Pill is a massive shit who know srofaam.

Also the word "irony" is evolving if it hasn't flat out evolved. That's language bitches.

Bless, you little ray of sunshine.


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic


Well, that's what the irony nazis say. But they're wrong. They're almost all examples of the form called 'situational irony', which is where our plans are thwarted by capricious fate., and thus have the opposite effect to what we intended. The song itself, and its misguided reception, is also an example of situational irony. So fcuk you all. Signed, Alanis.


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Anyone who dislikes Alanis and particularly Jagged Little Pill is a massive shit who know srofaam.

Also the word "irony" is evolving if it hasn't flat out evolved. That's language bitches.

Bless, you little ray of sunshine.

:) Still like ya


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US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/


All of this HQC stuff genuinely baffles me, on both sides.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:30 pm 
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This is pretty crazy

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The British public are putting more of a focus on protecting the economy than they were back in April. But a majority still want the Government to focus on saving lives, and things are swinging that way in other countries too as local spikes take place. (6/7)


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Why might this be? One reason is that people over-state the prevalence of Covid-19. In the UK people think a fifth have had it, that one in ten people currently have it, and that 100x as many have died than actually have


https://www.kekstcnc.com/insights/covid-19-opinion-tracker-edition-4


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I was at the Red Rooster Festival two years ago. I had a great time, and heard some great music.
Even before covid they were becoming more controlling by introducing an armband if you want to bring your own booze. Fair play to them for pushing the boat out and trying to restart normality.
I'll probably give it a miss this year because of the restrictions on buying local and bringing my own beer.
There will also be a lot less socialising than last time. I do not see the campfire until dawn happening this year.

This is what it will look like.
As they say, they are small, and can probably get it to work (nearly).

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Dearest Roosters,

Red Rooster is pleased to announce our Health and Safety measures and layout changes to ensure 2020 is not just an incredible weekend, but a safe one for our dearest audience.

We are creating a fully outdoor, managed environment so that you can enjoy a festival in the way you love, whilst we do all we can to keep you safe. Being a managed and monitored site doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy your Red Rooster weekend to the fullest extent. Attending Red Rooster is safer than spending your weekend going between the beaches, parks, indoor supermarkets and shopping centres.

We, as team Rooster, which includes you guys, have a duty of care to protect our loved ones and others around us. Just like when we go outside every day, there is a level of public responsibility to remain socially distanced so that we can keep everyone safe. Red Rooster is one of the only festivals that will be proceeding in 2020, and that’s because although we are a very small festival, behind it lies one of the highest levels of production teams in the country, and we have an audience that are responsible, incredible individuals. We are setting a precedent on how an event can operate safely in these crazy times, whilst still retaining the festival environment that we hold so dearly to our hearts. We need you to help us set this precedent.

But first. No one should attend the event if:
They are experiencing symptoms common to Covid19 (high temperature, continuous cough, loss of taste or smell)
They or anyone in their family has had symptoms in the last 14 days
They have been contacted by the official Test Trace Isolate Service
In all the above cases, people should isolate as necessary.

Just like we should all do before visiting loved ones, it is requested that all guests try to limit contact as much as possible by not attending busy indoor places for at least a week ahead of attending Red Rooster to be sure that their chances of having picked up the disease are limited.

To mitigate transmission and impact we expect everyone to remain vigilant and dedicated to the most Covid secure environment possible. Everyone must follow social distancing and hygiene measures in place throughout their stay on site.

Although we will provide greatly enhanced washing facilities and hand sanitiser on site, all guests should
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Hand sanitiser and cleaning materials for their camping arrangements
Face coverings. You are required to wear these upon arrival until you are camped up, and when you use the bars or visit traders.
Over 80% of our audience are from the surrounding areas in Norfolk and Suffolk, but any supplies you need, you should get them from your local area where you live, rather than using local services around Red Rooster. This is to protect the local community.

At Red Rooster you must cohere with social distancing measures and always maintain social distancing of 2m with people you do not live with. To avoid risks of transmission and stay as safe as possible, you should:
Only socialise outdoors in a group of up to six people from different households, or in larger groups if everyone is exclusively from one or two households
Limit your interaction with anyone outside the group you are attending with, even if you see other people you know.
Wear a face covering if you cannot achieve 2m from anyone outside your group
We are blessed with ample space at Red Rooster that we don’t usually use, so the campsites will be much larger, allowing you to spread yourselves out, giving yourself much more space to camp out under the stars. For those that already know the festival, the main stage will now be a traditional festival outdoor main stage, moving to a large area between the King Charles iron gates and the Church. This will enable you to pop up your chair or your picnic blanket and keep at least 2m away from other groups.

Little Red Rooster stage is already an outdoor stage, so that you can sit down and enjoy the music whilst staying socially distanced. The Howlin’ Woods stage will now be an outdoor stage and will be positioned where the main stage usually is, in what will now be a fully outdoor arena. We will of course be providing shade tents and awnings dotted around the stages and festival, so that you can have some shade from the hot Indian Summer sun, or if we encounter a little rain.

In any busy areas such as entrances to the arena, there will be one way systems in place in order to keep you socially distanced. We ask that you take your time, queue responsibly and give your fellow Roosters the space they need.

Bars, Food and Retail Traders will have lines and hand sanitiser readily available, just like the supermarkets and shops so that you keep socially distanced and the same as we’ve all been used to since March. You should wear face coverings when queuing for drinks or food to keep those around you safe.

All lead ticket buyers will receive an email stating a window of arrival time when they should join us onsite.

These staggered arrival times will now start from 8am on Friday 4th September. Campervans of a certain size will be asked to arrive between a particular time window, other sizes of campervans at another time and family camping ticket holders at a separate time and so on. This is to help reduce having too many people in the same areas. Please make arrangements to ensure you are able to arrive within this time window. If you are unable to arrive within this window of time, please email arrivals@redrooster.org.uk and we will do our best to offer you an alternative time slot.

When you arrive, your vehicles will be separated into lines to be parked up. If it’s a hot day, leave your windows open, so you’re not cooking in your car. Once out of your car, and queuing for the box office/ticket checks, we shall ask you to carry out a temperature check. If you are over 38deg we will ask you to step aside and take a drink of water and relax for 10 minutes before undertaking the check again. Once clear of the temperature check, you will then get to the box office tent, your tickets will be checked, wristbands handed to you (not put on by us as we usually do, but we will ask you to put them on in front of us) and you’ll be able to set up your camping and get ready for the fantastic weekend ahead. If you’re in a live-in vehicle it’ll be the same process, but temperature and ticket checks will be conducted through an open window as far as possible. You will then be handed your wristbands through your vehicle window and then directed to park up for the weekend.

Those that have purchased the moonshine wristbands, which are required to bring your own alcohol onto the site, should collect these from the two moonshine tents located by the King Charles gates and the bridge into the arena respectively.

Portaloos at the festival are greatly increased in numbers, including additional full cleaning services throughout the day of individual portaloos, with running water cleaning stations throughout the festival and campsites, as well as hand sanitiser stations throughout the festival and campsites.

You should sanitise your hands before using toilets, and wash them after leaving. We recommend washing hands frequently throughout the day with soap and water as well as keeping your hands sanitised as much as possible, especially before eating. Good hand hygiene is of course key to preventing transmission of all sorts of diseases.

Be conscious of all common ‘touch points’ such as contactless card readers, work surfaces etc. Keep personal equipment such as phones, camping equipment for your sole use. Do not share equipment outside your household group. Traders will wipe all surfaces you may need to touch before handing it to you.

Cleaning staff throughout the site shall regularly wipe down tables and picnic benches, as well as other common touch points as far as we can identify. The virus tends to deactivate quickly on porous surfaces such as paper, card and wood. Bins will be emptied as frequently as necessary and touch points wiped.
Showers at the festival will be thoroughly cleaning throughout the weekend, and dotted around the different areas of campsites. We recommend using a disinfectant spray when you have finished. These shall be regularly disinfected.

VERY IMPORTANT: If you see people having fun together at Red Rooster, do not look down upon them for getting close. We are all aware that we need to say socially distanced from each other when not from the same household or social bubble. It is all of our responsibility to look after each other, and those sharing a special moment in these crazy times are aware of who to mix with. Simply place a smile upon them and remember the special moments of getting close and showing love to those around us. Join us in the sounds of drums, shredding guitar solos and soulful vocals, in our wonderful little home at Euston Hall.

The measures in place may be added to, subject to reflect government guidelines.

Remember to get your tickets from http://bit.ly/RedRoosterFest2020 to make sure you're able to join us for this much-needed party! We look forward to welcoming you to Euston Hall in September, and as ever we appreciate your ongoing support in these crazy times.

Love & Respect,

Red Rooster HQ


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Point of order. Almost nothing in that song is actually ironic


Not. A. Point. Of. Order.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:49 pm 
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US Doctors give a different view to big Pharma. Banned by FB, YT and Google the best copy is on Brietbart. Where the correct HQC with Zinc etc is used it seems to have huge results.

Listen to the doctor at 5:25. If she is correct then we are being misled , if she is lying she should be deregistered. But the success rate, if true, is incredible.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/


It may be poisoning the well rather than engaging with her argument, but as she has only anecdote to go from, there's not much to engage with. However I do feel it worthwhile to point out that the doctor at 5:25 - Dr. Stella Immanuel - is a woman with some quite unusual beliefs.

She is the pastor at Firepower Ministries. Though the website is now offline, it has been archived: http://archive.is/G7wtb

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Tormenting spirits are responsible for breaking marriages, hatred by earthly spouse serious gynecological problems, Marital distress, miscarriages, impotence, untold hardship, financial failure and general failure at the edge of breakthrough. In fact studies shows that seven out of ten people in the church are affected by these spirits. Everyone needs this information.

The Supernatural world is as real as the physical. What takes place in the spiritual realm affects us physically in our day to day lives.

The subject of the evil spiritual marriage has been grossly mis-understood by many people. While some hold erroneous views, others demonstrate partial knowledge of this all- important subject. The problem of evil marriage goes beyond dilettantish purposes.

Evil marriage is a deep subject. It affects many people. From our spiritual research and statistical findings, we have gathered that seven out of ten ladies who profess to be born again are involved, consciously or unconsciously, with evil spiritual marriage. In the same vein, seven out of every ten Christian men are, consciously or unconsciously, affected by evil spiritual marriages.

More than any other power, these spirits have destroyed marriages.

Many women suffer from astral sex regularly. Astral sex is the ability to project one’s spirit man into the victim’s body and have intercourse with it. This practice is very common amongst Satanists. They leave their physical bodies in a dormant state while they project their spirits into the body of whoever they want to have sex with.


Now, I'm not saying that any of this undermines her credibility. You may find her exceptionally credible and take her research entirely at face value. When she actually publishes it.

I remain slightly skeptical, however.


Oh, and here she is exhorting Christian Warriors to pray and fast in order to judge the witches who are attempting to bind Donald Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnOPlO1ooo

Again, I can't really draw any conclusions about her medical work from this. But it does nonetheless make me doubt the reliability of her research. You stick to your guns, though. These are the doctors on your side of the 'debate'.


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