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Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 pm**

Jensrsa wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:39 pm UK Vaccinations:
First dose total
34,667,904

Second dose total
15,630,007

Total
50,297,911

Could maybe influence the spread and the potential next wave?

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

Well one would f ucking hope so.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 6:49 pm**

Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.

Children were at school last year. The spread from schools was well documented as being minimal. Teaching unions were twats and the weak Govt caved. Apart from that yeah it was hindsight,

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 6:51 pm**

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:30 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
It was always a case of teachers did not know how dangerous it might be for them and they never signed up to put their lives in danger.

Yes they did, there was 9 months of statistics regarding the susceptibility of teachers (which was far lower than the general population) they just didn’t want to go back.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 7:01 pm**

bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:30 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
It was always a case of teachers did not know how dangerous it might be for them and they never signed up to put their lives in danger.

Yes they did, there was 9 months of statistics regarding the susceptibility of teachers (which was far lower than the general population) they just didn’t want to go back.

Just like the millions of teachers in America who had the same worries. It was all a lie. They are just feckless lazy bastards who couldn't be bothered to go back into the classroom

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 7:26 pm**

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:01 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:30 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
It was always a case of teachers did not know how dangerous it might be for them and they never signed up to put their lives in danger.

Yes they did, there was 9 months of statistics regarding the susceptibility of teachers (which was far lower than the general population) they just didn’t want to go back.
Just like the millions of teachers in America who had the same worries. It was all a lie. They are just feckless lazy bastards who couldn't be bothered to go back into the classroom

Well teachers in many other parts of the globe managed it,

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:14 pm**

Last year, the CMHT at which I work (about 40 staff) had one member of staff off sick with suspected Cov.

At the same time a local primary school had to close because half its staff went off sick.

This was when schools were demanding to be closed.

They forced closure.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:25 pm**

bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:26 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:01 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:30 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
It was always a case of teachers did not know how dangerous it might be for them and they never signed up to put their lives in danger.

Yes they did, there was 9 months of statistics regarding the susceptibility of teachers (which was far lower than the general population) they just didn’t want to go back.
Just like the millions of teachers in America who had the same worries. It was all a lie. They are just feckless lazy bastards who couldn't be bothered to go back into the classroom

Well teachers in many other parts of the globe managed it,

Except a lot of us worked a lot more doing remote lessons and chasing up work and attendance form kids.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 8:28 pm**

I don't think dumbot had very good teachers.

Posted: **Tue May 04, 2021 9:15 pm**

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:01 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:51 pm
Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:30 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 6:05 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.
I remember how much less we knew about this thingy a while ago, how we all thought it would be over at the end of spring last year and how many were lambasting their respective governments over the lack of available masks, the same people that are now claiming they're useless.

Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
It was always a case of teachers did not know how dangerous it might be for them and they never signed up to put their lives in danger.

Yes they did, there was 9 months of statistics regarding the susceptibility of teachers (which was far lower than the general population) they just didn’t want to go back.
Just like the millions of teachers in America who had the same worries. It was all a lie. They are just feckless lazy bastards who couldn't be bothered to go back into the classroom

Hush will ye' ?

Teachers go into the profession for all the right reasons ...

The Money ...

The Holidays ...

And the Complete Lack of Accountability ...

(a classic quote ... )

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 11:46 am**

found this really interesting on the lab leak theory vs natural transmission theory

apols if RR

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin- ... f03564c038

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 11:59 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:27 pm https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1389508938027130886

Remember all the doom warnings about schools. And how dangerous it was for teachers etc.

I haven't read the tweet. Is there an analysis of the impact of wearing masks vs not wearing masks?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:20 pm**

Covid antibodies were detected in blood samples from cancer screening from September 2019 in Italy.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.117 ... b++0pubmed&

https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/42669767
This paper suggests covid spreading in Wuhan in August.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 pm**

So, was it initially harmless? And then mutated into something more serious?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:39 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 pm So, was it initially harmless? And then mutated into something more serious?

Doubtful. I suspect people were already dying of Covid in Sept 2019, but no-one was looking for it at the autopsy

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:47 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:39 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 pm So, was it initially harmless? And then mutated into something more serious?
Doubtful. I suspect people were already dying of Covid in Sept 2019, but no-one was looking for it at the autopsy

Given how easily it spreads though it would have started to ring bells before it eventually did.

Maybe it didn't spread as easily? Given that it's gotten more and more contagious over the last 18 months.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 1:49 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 pm So, was it initially harmless? And then mutated into something more serious?

Yes because people were not focused enough. It will keep mutating until people get focused. It will also appear in pockets of the country sporadically that has higher levels of vaccine scepticism

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm**

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:47 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:39 pm
CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 pm So, was it initially harmless? And then mutated into something more serious?
Doubtful. I suspect people were already dying of Covid in Sept 2019, but no-one was looking for it at the autopsy
Given how easily it spreads though it would have started to ring bells before it eventually did.

Maybe it didn't spread as easily? Given that it's gotten more and more contagious over the last 18 months.

We know that spread is asymmetrical compared to flu and that it can take quite a few introductions into a population before it will successfully spread, also that viral load is likely to play a role in severity and in most people it isn't severe. The covid symptom tracker app has a large more comprehensive list of potential symptoms.

panamax wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 11:46 am found this really interesting on the lab leak theory vs natural transmission theory

apols if RR

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin- ... f03564c038

Seen similar articles before. Could well end up being China's Chernobyl.

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 4:28 pm**

We know that spread is asymmetrical compared to flu and that it can take quite a few introductions into a population before it will successfully spread,

Love to read the research on the flu comparison....

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 7:03 pm**

ticketlessinseattle wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:44 pm vaccines aside has there been much progress in treatments for patients that have become hospitalised due to covid ? a year ago I thought we'd be 18 months or so from a vaccine and that we'd be relying on treatment for covid as a way out but seems like no major breakthroughs - remdesivir is the only one I can think of that has made the news....unfortunately it seemed to have worked in that particular case,,,

What about dexamethasone?

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2021 7:14 pm**

I know they were also investigating drugs that can block cytokine storms although I haven't heard of anything concrete.

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2021 10:07 am**

yeah, so basically there's a few things they're playing around with but not exactly anything the you would consider breakthrough ;

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2021 3:32 pm**

One beneficiary of the COVID pandemic nobody saw is the Open University.

https://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes. ... -pandemic/

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am**

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.

Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 9:06 am**

Zimbabwe is using Ivermectin to treat COVID and anecdotally, it’s working.

I had heard something about this but dismissed it as rumour, went for a beer at the golf club earlier and one of the members bought it up, I will be contacting my brother to find out more...updates to follow

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 9:13 am**

ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.

And?

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 12:12 pm**

Under 40s to be given an alternative to AZ, just announced.

No under 40s, no over 60s too in many places. No AZ at all in other places. Sweden do dump it all. The US to give it to the 3rd world because it's not safe for US citizens.

Will there be a world of scandals coming out on this Vaccine when the dust settled..

Australia and Canada reporting clots. We don't get much news from the non English speaking world or most Brits ignore it anyway.

This on top of all the delivery shambles.

I hope it doesn't become clear that if the rush for a vaccine roll out win, Boris and Co took some unnecessary risks with the masses.

I also suspect a number of the post-vaccine rollout death numbers are more AZ related then we are being told.

Does a two-week old clot now class as a previous condition.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 12:16 pm**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:13 am
ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.
And?

Just the headache flu, eh Mick? Nothing to see here.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 12:28 pm**

Dozy wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:12 pm Under 40s to be given an alternative to AZ, just announced.

No under 40s, no over 60s too in many places. No AZ at all in other places. Sweden do dump it all. The US to give it to the 3rd world because it's not safe for US citizens.

Will there be a world of scandals coming out on this Vaccine when the dust settled..

Australia and Canada reporting clots. We don't get much news from the non English speaking world or most Brits ignore it anyway.

This on top of all the delivery shambles.

I hope it doesn't become clear that if the rush for a vaccine roll out win, Boris and Co took some unnecessary risks with the masses.

I also suspect a number of the post-vaccine rollout death numbers are more AZ related then we are being told.

Does a two-week old clot now class as a previous condition.

You're definitely a glass half empty sort of person.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 12:31 pm**

Dozy wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:12 pm Under 40s to be given an alternative to AZ, just announced.

No under 40s, no over 60s too in many places. No AZ at all in other places. Sweden do dump it all. The US to give it to the 3rd world because it's not safe for US citizens.

Will there be a world of scandals coming out on this Vaccine when the dust settled..

Australia and Canada reporting clots. We don't get much news from the non English speaking world or most Brits ignore it anyway.

This on top of all the delivery shambles.

I hope it doesn't become clear that if the rush for a vaccine roll out win, Boris and Co took some unnecessary risks with the masses.

I also suspect a number of the post-vaccine rollout death numbers are more AZ related then we are being told.

Does a two-week old clot now class as a previous condition.

Haven't you got a rocket in a decaying orbit to worry about?

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 12:33 pm**

danny_fitz wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:31 pm
Dozy wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:12 pm Under 40s to be given an alternative to AZ, just announced.

No under 40s, no over 60s too in many places. No AZ at all in other places. Sweden do dump it all. The US to give it to the 3rd world because it's not safe for US citizens.

Will there be a world of scandals coming out on this Vaccine when the dust settled..

Australia and Canada reporting clots. We don't get much news from the non English speaking world or most Brits ignore it anyway.

This on top of all the delivery shambles.

I hope it doesn't become clear that if the rush for a vaccine roll out win, Boris and Co took some unnecessary risks with the masses.

I also suspect a number of the post-vaccine rollout death numbers are more AZ related then we are being told.

Does a two-week old clot now class as a previous condition.
Haven't you got a rocket in a decaying orbit to worry about?

The chance of being hit by it appears similar to the chance of getting a clot after a covid jab, so would expect him to be all over it.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 1:12 pm**

MungoMan wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 12:16 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:13 am
ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.
And?
Just the headache flu, eh Mick? Nothing to see here.

That is quite a leap, you smarmy little prick.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm**

Getting first jab monday

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 2:54 pm**

Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm Getting first jab monday

tuesday for me

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 2:58 pm**

ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.

Sorry? 40% of the U.K. population have long term illness ?

F uck we should have health passports that are nothing to do with covid.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 3:17 pm**

Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm Getting first jab monday

Wow! France accelerating the pace of vaccinations.

Are you getting AZ? If you do, please report here in 2 weeks time to make sure all went well.

Good luck!

I am getting my second Pfizer jab tomorrow

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 3:17 pm**

panamax wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:54 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm Getting first jab monday
tuesday for me

Same as Clouseau. Keep us posted!

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 3:20 pm**

bimboman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:58 pm
ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/

86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities

Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
Hospital deaths only.

40% of the UK have a long term illness.

Sorry? 40% of the U.K. population have long term illness ?

F uck we should have health passports that are nothing to do with covid.

Yes. We are a unhealthy and demographically old country.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 3:25 pm**

TheFrog wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:17 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm Getting first jab monday
Wow! France accelerating the pace of vaccinations.

Are you getting AZ? If you do, please report here in 2 weeks time to make sure all went well.

Good luck!

I am getting my second Pfizer jab tomorrow

Moderna for me.

Posted: **Fri May 07, 2021 3:26 pm**

Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:25 pm
TheFrog wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:17 pm
Clouseau wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:50 pm Getting first jab monday
Wow! France accelerating the pace of vaccinations.

Are you getting AZ? If you do, please report here in 2 weeks time to make sure all went well.

Good luck!

I am getting my second Pfizer jab tomorrow

Moderna for me.

My mother got Moderna.

2nd jab of Moderna has side effects for 24 hours. Sore limbs, joints , chills and headaches

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