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Pfizer, i don't meet the criterias but have a big vaccination center next door, i sent them a mail asking if there would be any spare doses only if i would not take the spot of an older/more at risk person
iarmhiman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:26 pmMy mother got Moderna.
2nd jab of Moderna has side effects for 24 hours. Sore limbs, joints , chills and headaches
In general the people I know who have had side effects are less healthy than the people who didn't. Which is not at all surprising.bimboman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:20 pmiarmhiman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:26 pmMy mother got Moderna.
2nd jab of Moderna has side effects for 24 hours. Sore limbs, joints , chills and headaches
Well for your mum it did. Not everyone,
You're a young lad Panamax, congratulations on your soon to come baby.panamax wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:56 pmPfizer, i don't meet the criterias but have a big vaccination center next door, i sent them a mail asking if there would be any spare doses only if i would not take the spot of an older/more at risk person
they just sent me back a mail asking me to come next tuesday
only thing is my wife will probably give birth in the next days so i just hope i'll be able to gp get the jab!
So not fully vaccinated. Chance of no deaths without vaccine 1 in 800. Does the article say this? No.The documents reveal 15 cases of B16172 were found in one London care home where residents had their second doses of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in the week prior to the outbreak. Four of the cases were hospitalised with non-severe illness, and there were no deaths.
And what?Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 9:13 amAnd?ovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 amHospital deaths only.Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/
86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities
Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
40% of the UK have a long term illness.
About 26 million people in England have at least one LTC.10 million have two or more LTCsPetej wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 3:20 pmYes. We are a unhealthy and demographically old country.bimboman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:58 pmovalball wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:58 amHospital deaths only.Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 8:01 am https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/s ... l-archive/
86K deaths
3.5K with no pre-existing co-morbidities
Download the stats. Have a look at the tabs.
40% of the UK have a long term illness.
Sorry? 40% of the U.K. population have long term illness ?
F uck we should have health passports that are nothing to do with covid.
I had AZ a couple weeks ago. Felt like shit for 2 or 3 days and that was it.
2024, lovely stuffFor authorities reliant on border controls to tame the virus, the path to reopening looks uncertain, experts say, as sluggish vaccine roll-outs, virus mutations, and an ingrained zero-tolerance mentality towards infections threaten to cut off Asia-Pacific economies from the world indefinitely.
“The problem is that I think there is a fear and risk aversion that has got worse in countries that have done it well, rather than better,” said Peter Collignon, a professor of microbiology at the Australian National University.
“One of the issues is how you get the majority of society to accept a certain level of risk when you have markedly decreased the risks of death and a lot of disease and your health system being overwhelmed.”
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The border closures have nonetheless inflicted a heavy social and economic cost, separating families across continents and decimating travel-dependent industries such as tourism and international education.
Modelling released by the Sydney-based McKell Institute this week estimated that Australia’s border closures were costing the country A$203 million (US$157 million) a day in lost economic activity. Hong Kong saw its GDP decline for a record six consecutive quarters, a period that also overlapped with civil unrest in 2019, before finally rebounding to 7.8 per cent growth in the first quarter of 2021.
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Australia’s vaccination programme is on track to be completed in 2024, according to The Guardian newspaper, although the pace is expected to pick up significantly when the country receives another 20 million doses of the Pfizer jab in the final quarter of this year.
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Dale Fisher, a professor at the NUS Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, warned that countries such as Australia that had effectively eliminated the virus through border controls were now “painted into a corner”.
“This is not part of the media rhetoric and it’s a huge problem,” Fisher said. “I’ve raised it a couple of times, but people haven’t taken the nibble, that countries that have relied on border closures and have had zero tolerance for cases are going to really struggle to transition to the next phase.
“The rest of the world will be opening up and flying around and they will be saying, ‘How do we now transition to a situation where Covid is endemic?”
Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who has come under pressure in recent days for instituting a temporary ban on citizens returning from India, said the same month the government was in “no hurry” to reopen the borders, but as a first step could consider allowing fully vaccinated citizens to skip hotel quarantine. On Friday, Trade Minister Dan Tehan said his “best guess” of when borders might fully reopen was the second half of 2022.
In an oped in the Australian Financial Review last week, the newspaper’s European correspondent lamented that Australia risked becoming a hermit country to the detriment of its “economy, culture and international standing in ways that seem greatly under-appreciated”.
Come on now. Let's remember that nobody in the world had ever worn a mask to stave off disease before, how could they possibly have known?bimboman wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:32 pmovalball wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:17 pmOr, the science moved on as they learnt more and they changed their advice accordingly and acted in accordance with expert advice.
Science and expert advice that no one at all can link and which they themselves have never mentioned nor published.
RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:33 amCome on now. Let's remember that nobody in the world had ever worn a mask to stave off disease before, how could they possibly have known?bimboman wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:32 pmovalball wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:17 pmOr, the science moved on as they learnt more and they changed their advice accordingly and acted in accordance with expert advice.
Science and expert advice that no one at all can link and which they themselves have never mentioned nor published.
The science moved man.
You’d have to be an utter moron not to have noticed all the links that have been shared on this thread.RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:33 amCome on now. Let's remember that nobody in the world had ever worn a mask to stave off disease before, how could they possibly have known?bimboman wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:32 pmovalball wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:17 pmOr, the science moved on as they learnt more and they changed their advice accordingly and acted in accordance with expert advice.
Science and expert advice that no one at all can link and which they themselves have never mentioned nor published.
The science moved man.
ovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:15 pmYou’d have to be an utter moron not to have noticed all the links that have been shared on this thread.RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:33 amCome on now. Let's remember that nobody in the world had ever worn a mask to stave off disease before, how could they possibly have known?bimboman wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 10:32 pm
Science and expert advice that no one at all can link and which they themselves have never mentioned nor published.
The science moved man.
ovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-prevent
Nina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
Honestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
Same as a denier with a camera and a lot of pennies?bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
And moreTheFrog wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:59 pmHonestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
What do you want? Raw data for everybody to read for themselves?
Yet, you post links to tweets when it suits you, to support your view. You are not credible.
ovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:50 pmAnd moreTheFrog wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:59 pmHonestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
What do you want? Raw data for everybody to read for themselves?
Yet, you post links to tweets when it suits you, to support your view. You are not credible.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4020300726
Linsey C. Marr
Civil and Environmental Engineering, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA, USA
Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:25 pmSame as a denier with a camera and a lot of pennies?bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
TheFrog wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:59 pmHonestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
What do you want? Raw data for everybody to read for themselves?
Yet, you post links to tweets when it suits you, to support your view. You are not credible.
That’s not true.bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:14 pmTheFrog wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:59 pmHonestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
What do you want? Raw data for everybody to read for themselves?
Yet, you post links to tweets when it suits you, to support your view. You are not credible.
I do it because less than one year ago our chief scientist and politicians were adamant that masks were of no use in the general population......
Only politics changed that.
The grasp for it being science is great, our actual scientists and politicians have presented nor referenced any.
They are peer reviewed scientific papers completed by experts in their field, and with clear statements that masks help reduce the spread and have reduced the number of infections. They haven’t minced words. One claimed that in their study area they estimated that masks prevented 200,000 cases. At 0.5% IFC, that is 1000 lives saved.bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:49 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:15 pmYou’d have to be an utter moron not to have noticed all the links that have been shared on this thread.RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:33 amCome on now. Let's remember that nobody in the world had ever worn a mask to stave off disease before, how could they possibly have known?
The science moved man.
I’ve seen the links, they contain almost no science from the last year, conflation , reinterpretation and articles don’t mean science.
You misrepresent everything anyway because you’re a massive bedwetter,
Andbimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 10:00 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:50 pmAnd moreTheFrog wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:59 pmHonestly Bimbo, you can be such bad faith at times...bimboman wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pmovalball wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 1:20 pm Specially for the the Bimbos that are still confused.........
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41790 ... ks-preventNina Bai joined the digital communications team in 2016 as a web writer. A recent transplant from the East Coast, she has written about science and health for publications such as Scientific American, Discover, The Scientist, and Lucky Peach, and a variety of academic and research institutions. She has a BS from Yale University and an MA in science writing from Johns Hopkins University.
“Written about”
What do you want? Raw data for everybody to read for themselves?
Yet, you post links to tweets when it suits you, to support your view. You are not credible.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4020300726
Linsey C. Marr
Civil and Environmental Engineering, Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA, USA
Monica Gandhi
Division of HIV, Infectious Diseases, and Global Medicine, University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), San Francisco, C
A 94112, USA
They are peer reviewed scientific papers completed by experts in their field, and with clear statements that masks help reduce the spread and have reduced the number of infections. They haven’t minced words. One claimed that in their study area they estimated that masks prevented 200,000 cases. At 0.5% IFC, that is 1000 lives saved.
They assessed the viruses effect in possibly the biggest experiment ever conducted.bimboman wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:20 amThey are peer reviewed scientific papers completed by experts in their field, and with clear statements that masks help reduce the spread and have reduced the number of infections. They haven’t minced words. One claimed that in their study area they estimated that masks prevented 200,000 cases. At 0.5% IFC, that is 1000 lives saved.
The article has not been quoted anywhere by our senior scientists as a reason why the the advice changed.
What experiments did they do on their studies, ?
I wonder how many people have direct experience of death. Even working in the NHS, I am struck by how few of my colleagues have been present at a death of a family member.bimboman wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 1:29 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43J7hD9I0jY&t=1s
Great TED talk. No pennies this time just facts.
My coping mech is to have become very blase about death and even laugh at it. Still don't really want a load of olds to die though. If that makes me soft, so be it.
