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Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:04 am**

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pm No1 daughter has been rough with the covid (single jabbed)- mother in law now has it (83yr old) so fingers crossed
Hope they recover quickly.

I did not lose any of my caseload over the age of 70 to covid. And quite a few contracted it.
You're caseload?
No, I am not.
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

In no way do I dispute your experience.

I hope you do not dispute mine.

And to those people who find it necessary to smear me, yes I work in community mental health, previously with adult services, now with the elderly, covering both organic and functional.

We have no one in general hospital with covid, and have had none for at least six months.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:18 am**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:44 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:46 pm
Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm Poor Muck, he’s not got the insight to realise he’s part of the self-selecting control group who are being hospitalised and dying at a far higher rate than those vaccinated.
You have not got the insight to realise you have accepted something into your body with no long-term safety data.

Good luck.

You obeyed like a good boy.

No changing your mind now.
Pfft. A vaccine developed by a a pharmaceutical company with about 10 billion in funding and multiple trials?

I’ve happily put way more random shit in my body over the last 25 years with no side effects. And I didn’t try to tell other people what to do either.

INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS
As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving each dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, including: • FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA-approved vaccine. • The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. • The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown. • Information about available alternative vaccines and the risks and benefits of those alternatives For information on clinical trials that are evaluating the use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19, please see www.clinicaltrials.gov.

Revised: Aug/12/2021

I am not telling anyone what to do

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 am**

Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:12 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:38 pm
The left can't meme example #3592662895905

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:23 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:18 am
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:44 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:46 pm
Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm Poor Muck, he’s not got the insight to realise he’s part of the self-selecting control group who are being hospitalised and dying at a far higher rate than those vaccinated.
You have not got the insight to realise you have accepted something into your body with no long-term safety data.

Good luck.

You obeyed like a good boy.

No changing your mind now.
Pfft. A vaccine developed by a a pharmaceutical company with about 10 billion in funding and multiple trials?

I’ve happily put way more random shit in my body over the last 25 years with no side effects. And I didn’t try to tell other people what to do either.

INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS
As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving each dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, including: • FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA-approved vaccine. • The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. • The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown. • Information about available alternative vaccines and the risks and benefits of those alternatives For information on clinical trials that are evaluating the use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19, please see www.clinicaltrials.gov.

Revised: Aug/12/2021

I am not telling anyone what to do

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... 19-vaccine

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:33 am**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:23 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:18 am
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:44 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:46 pm
Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm Poor Muck, he’s not got the insight to realise he’s part of the self-selecting control group who are being hospitalised and dying at a far higher rate than those vaccinated.
You have not got the insight to realise you have accepted something into your body with no long-term safety data.

Good luck.

You obeyed like a good boy.

No changing your mind now.
Pfft. A vaccine developed by a a pharmaceutical company with about 10 billion in funding and multiple trials?

I’ve happily put way more random shit in my body over the last 25 years with no side effects. And I didn’t try to tell other people what to do either.

INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS
As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving each dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, including: • FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA-approved vaccine. • The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. • The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown. • Information about available alternative vaccines and the risks and benefits of those alternatives For information on clinical trials that are evaluating the use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19, please see www.clinicaltrials.gov.

Revised: Aug/12/2021

I am not telling anyone what to do
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... 19-vaccine

FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
HAS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE? The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine. In clinical trials, approximately 23,000 individuals 12 years of age and older have received at least 1 dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE? In an ongoing clinical trial, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been shown to prevent COVID-19 following 2 doses given 3 weeks apart. The duration of protection against COVID-19 is currently unknown.

Revised: 12 August 2021

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:45 am**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:33 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:23 am
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:18 am
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:44 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:46 pm

You have not got the insight to realise you have accepted something into your body with no long-term safety data.

Good luck.

You obeyed like a good boy.

No changing your mind now.
Pfft. A vaccine developed by a a pharmaceutical company with about 10 billion in funding and multiple trials?

I’ve happily put way more random shit in my body over the last 25 years with no side effects. And I didn’t try to tell other people what to do either.

INFORMATION TO PROVIDE TO VACCINE RECIPIENTS/CAREGIVERS
As the vaccination provider, you must communicate to the recipient or their caregiver, information consistent with the “Fact Sheet for Recipients and Caregivers” (and provide a copy or direct the individual to the website www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua to obtain the Fact Sheet) prior to the individual receiving each dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, including: • FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, which is not an FDA-approved vaccine. • The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine. • The significant known and potential risks and benefits of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, and the extent to which such risks and benefits are unknown. • Information about available alternative vaccines and the risks and benefits of those alternatives For information on clinical trials that are evaluating the use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19, please see www.clinicaltrials.gov.

Revised: Aug/12/2021

I am not telling anyone what to do
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-relea ... 19-vaccine
FACT SHEET FOR RECIPIENTS AND CAREGIVERS
HAS THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE BEEN USED BEFORE? The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine is an unapproved vaccine. In clinical trials, approximately 23,000 individuals 12 years of age and older have received at least 1 dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE? In an ongoing clinical trial, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been shown to prevent COVID-19 following 2 doses given 3 weeks apart. The duration of protection against COVID-19 is currently unknown.

Revised: 12 August 2021

It's approved for emergency use. We're in an emergency.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:02 am**

At least you now understand that these are trial products.

Many people deny this is the case.

The manufacturers are honest about this.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am**

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pm No1 daughter has been rough with the covid (single jabbed)- mother in law now has it (83yr old) so fingers crossed
Hope they recover quickly.

I did not lose any of my caseload over the age of 70 to covid. And quite a few contracted it.
You're caseload?
No, I am not.
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am
C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm

Hope they recover quickly.

I did not lose any of my caseload over the age of 70 to covid. And quite a few contracted it.
You're caseload?
No, I am not.
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.

Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king wit kant.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 am**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am
C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:42 pm
You're caseload?
No, I am not.
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.
Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king plum.

I’m not ignorant on the figures nor commenting on South Africa.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:46 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am
C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm

No, I am not.
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.
Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king plum.

I’m not ignorant on the figures nor commenting on South Africa.

Good because they're worse in the UK with a slightly bigger population size.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:49 am**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:46 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am
C69 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Good for you.
Myself and my colleagues on ICU saw death on a scale we have never seen before.
I hate working clinically now, this shit has fecked me on so many ways.

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.
Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king plum.

I’m not ignorant on the figures nor commenting on South Africa.
Good because they're worse in the UK with a slightly bigger population size.

Great we had about 10% excess deaths last year. This year we will not have excess deaths.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:57 am**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:56 am Where do you get 10% from?

The ONS. Regarding excess deaths.

We are one of the worst globally, Sweden for example had between 1 and 2%

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:01 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:49 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:46 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:04 am

A scale of 10% more deaths than an average year.
Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king plum.

I’m not ignorant on the figures nor commenting on South Africa.
Good because they're worse in the UK with a slightly bigger population size.

Great we had about 10% excess deaths last year. This year we will not have excess deaths.

Hopefully not. Although it was running at > 10% on the last ONS report.

Edit: to add that this was for July.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:35 am**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:00 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:57 am
Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:56 am Where do you get 10% from?

The ONS. Regarding excess deaths.
Really because I’ve just looked at the published spreadsheet and it’s not 10%.

Link it then. I made a small allowance for the massive amounts excess deaths in the home.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:37 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:18 pm
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:12 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:09 pm

Neither covers the two subjects in the articles and papers I posted nor asked about , what confused you ?

Yes .....
Good man. You're part of the trial.

We all are. Even the unvaccinated. Luckily I had the option of a poor mans vaccine rather than one of the really new ones.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:40 am**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:01 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:49 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:46 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 am
sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:17 am

Seriously just shut the fudge up. There are multiple families in my 320 house neighbourhood that have lost family members. Holes. Ignorant f**king plum.

I’m not ignorant on the figures nor commenting on South Africa.
Good because they're worse in the UK with a slightly bigger population size.

Great we had about 10% excess deaths last year. This year we will not have excess deaths.

Hopefully not. Although it was running at > 10% on the last ONS report. Edit: to add that this was for July.

Deaths week in week here ran 5% under for 12 weeks.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:48 am**

bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:40 am Deaths week in week here ran 5% under for 12 weeks.

Seems a bit odd to be arguing by death counts but:

Direct from the ONS

Week 30

There were 10,135 deaths in England and Wales registered in the week ending 30 July 2021 (Week 30); this was 391 more deaths than the previous week (Week 29) and 12.0% above the five-year average (1,083 more deaths).

Week 29

There were 9,744 deaths in England and Wales registered in the week ending 23 July 2021 (Week 29); this was 47 more deaths than the previous week (Week 28) and 7.2% above the five-year average (651 more deaths).

Week 28

There were 9,697 deaths in England and Wales registered in the week ending 16 July 2021 (Week 28); this was 55 fewer deaths than the previous week (Week 27) and 4.8% above the five-year average (447 more deaths).

Week 27

There were 9,752 deaths in England and Wales registered in the week ending 9 July 2021 (Week 27); this was 944 more deaths than the previous week (Week 26) and 6.2% above the five-year average (569 more deaths).

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:14 am**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:51 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:35 am
Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:00 am
bimboman wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:57 am
Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:56 am Where do you get 10% from?

The ONS. Regarding excess deaths.
Really because I’ve just looked at the published spreadsheet and it’s not 10%.

Link it then. I made a small allowance for the massive amounts excess deaths in the home.
You made an allowance.

Why do I need to link it for you, you said you got it from the ONS, so we’re using the same source.

He has got himself in an awful tangle here.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am**

Does excess deaths take into account people not leaving the house, no sport, less traffic etc?

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am**

Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:12 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:38 pm
The left can't meme example #3592662895905

Also terrible

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:36 am**

DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am Does excess deaths take into account people not leaving the house, no sport, less traffic etc?

It's reported death per period comparison. So no.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:02 am**

It was 10.5% ....

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:16 am**

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:18 am**

Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:12 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:38 pm
The left can't meme example #3592662895905

Also terrible

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:33 pm**

Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:18 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:12 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:38 pm
The left can't meme example #3592662895905

Also terrible

Nope. Still not true or funny.

Clown show.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:36 pm**

Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:33 pm
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:18 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am
Rocketz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:22 am
Dozy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:12 am

The left can't meme example #3592662895905

Also terrible

Nope. Still not true or funny.

Clown show.

Bloody morbidly hilarious watching the world's IQ go up in real time as antivaxxers die in their 100s of thousands

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:35 pm**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:36 am
DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:27 am Does excess deaths take into account people not leaving the house, no sport, less traffic etc?
It's reported death per period comparison. So no.

Excess deaths far exceed 10% then when that’s all factored in?

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:38 pm**

Front page of The Sunday Times reporting on China's 'decisive role' in the WHO's failure to act at the start of the pandemic.

"There was no scientific or medical or policy justification for the stance that the WHO took in January and February 2020. That was entirely premised on the maintaining satisfactory ties to the Chinese government"

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:40 pm**

WHO are just as responsible as China for the Covid disaster.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:48 pm**

TranceNRG wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:40 pm WHO are just as responsible as China for the Covid disaster.

Can't post the article as it is behind a pay wall, but it pretty much charts China's response to the stinging criticism it received from the WHO after the SARS outbreak. No surprises that they bribed various African officials to vote for their person to be installed in the top job at the WHO and all subsequent 'nothing to see here' response from the organisation during the early stages of the pandemic.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:37 pm**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:49 pm
Gavin Duffy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:42 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:13 pm
DragsterDriver wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:48 pm No1 daughter has been rough with the covid (single jabbed)- mother in law now has it (83yr old) so fingers crossed
Hope they recover quickly.

I did not lose any of my caseload over the age of 70 to covid. And quite a few contracted it.
You're caseload?
No, I am not.

Nicely done.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:03 pm**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:24 pm You or Muttonmong could handle that rise single handed, Rocketz.

You want me to start wiping out antivaxxers????

Sorry not up for that

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:50 pm**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:43 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:25 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:35 pm
Btw, the issue of AED is way overblown by those who seek to undermine the use of vaccines against Covid-19. AED is just as likely, if at all, to occur in people exposed to SARS-Cov2 for the second time. Incidentally, in the paper Rodney linked the risk of AED was part of the informed consent process.

“Exposed” or “reinfected”. ?

An important difference. Especially considering the very very low chance of being reinfected.
Low until you get the jab.
What are they when you get a jab?

Higher.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:50 pm**

Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm Poor Muck, he’s not got the insight to realise he’s part of the self-selecting control group who are being hospitalised and dying at a far higher rate than those vaccinated.

Israel says no.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:54 pm**

RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:50 pm
Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:31 pm Poor Muck, he’s not got the insight to realise he’s part of the self-selecting control group who are being hospitalised and dying at a far higher rate than those vaccinated.
Israel says no.

The US says yes

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:43 pm**

RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:50 pm
Sefton wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:43 pm
RodneyRegis wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:25 pm
bimboman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:35 pm
Btw, the issue of AED is way overblown by those who seek to undermine the use of vaccines against Covid-19. AED is just as likely, if at all, to occur in people exposed to SARS-Cov2 for the second time. Incidentally, in the paper Rodney linked the risk of AED was part of the informed consent process.

“Exposed” or “reinfected”. ?

An important difference. Especially considering the very very low chance of being reinfected.
Low until you get the jab.
What are they when you get a jab?
Higher.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:49 pm**

https://hugotalks.com/2021/08/14/mrna-s ... -lockdown/

Informed consent?

But...but...the state of the comments

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:38 pm**

Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:49 pm https://hugotalks.com/2021/08/14/mrna-s ... -lockdown/

Informed consent?

But...but...the state of the comments

Crock of shite. Whoever Hugo is, he should be locked up.

Posted: **Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:39 pm**

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:38 pm
Mick Mannock wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:49 pm https://hugotalks.com/2021/08/14/mrna-s ... -lockdown/

Informed consent?

But...but...the state of the comments
Crock of shite. Whoever Hugo is, he should be locked up.

How do you know that is a crock of shit?

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