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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:28 pm 
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Well technically he isn't. He came off the bench in the last and most important test of 2019. I think Foster might have painted himself into a corner by prematurely naming Cane as AB captain.

He started the last game. He came off the bench in the previous one.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:35 pm 
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That's right I forgot about the 3rd place game.

I really feel for Sam. He earnt Richies jersey and I think he would have made a better AB captain than Read. To have the crowning moment of your career ripped away by a coach having a crisis of confidence is heartbreaking. Same with Beaudy I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Kahu wrote:
That's right I forgot about the 3rd place game.

I really feel for Sam. He earnt Richies jersey and I think he would have made a better AB captain than Read. To have the crowning moment of your career ripped away by a coach having a crisis of confidence is heartbreaking. Same with Beaudy I guess.


Hansen f**ked up that world cup....in fact he screwed up the entire final year of his reign. Huge black mark on his credentials. Shouldn't have been knighted imo. He inherited a team Henry built and basically ran it into the ground. Fact.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:40 am 
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True Blue wrote:
Kahu wrote:
That's right I forgot about the 3rd place game.

I really feel for Sam. He earnt Richies jersey and I think he would have made a better AB captain than Read. To have the crowning moment of your career ripped away by a coach having a crisis of confidence is heartbreaking. Same with Beaudy I guess.


Hansen f**ked up that world cup....in fact he screwed up the entire final year of his reign. Huge black mark on his credentials. Shouldn't have been knighted imo. He inherited a team Henry built and basically ran it into the ground. Fact.

While I 100% agree with the sentiment, can we get back to putting the boot into Gatland please?

Gatland OUT!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:32 am 
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Kahu wrote:
That's right I forgot about the 3rd place game.

I really feel for Sam. He earnt Richies jersey and I think he would have made a better AB captain than Read. To have the crowning moment of your career ripped away by a coach having a crisis of confidence is heartbreaking. Same with Beaudy I guess.

Do you mean with Barrett moving to fullback? I would argue the crisis of confidence/head in the sand approach from the coaching team (Hansen and Foster) is the reason he kept his spot at first-five as long as he did. For me not starting Cane in the semi was the wrong decision but promoting Mo’unga to starting 10 was the right decision, just 12 months too late.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:15 am 
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Yes bloody Hansen. Shows loyalty to so many players over the course of his reign, but arguably the one moment Ben Smith has a rare drop in form, he drops him. 80+ tests and you drop the guy in a world cup year. Not saying we would've beaten an incredible English performance in that semi, but dropping the worlds best fullback out of you team, in favour for what was effectively an experiment? Sickening!

/bitter southern man.

Anywho, Chiefs will come right under Gatland - no evidence, just a feeling. If a couple more things went their way then they could be in a much more decent position. Until then, it gives my Highlanders some team to beat...sorry!


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:10 am 
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Anyone else think gatland is making an effort to moan less to the media? I mean, he has had the most reason to but the last couple of games he’s been reasonably diplomatic.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Well, with one game left this weekend against the in form and bye rested Hurricanes in Wellington. The question is will the Chiefs fall to an inglorious winless season?


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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I’d be a bit gutted if they break their streak on us.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Wilderbeast wrote:
I’d be a bit gutted if they break their streak on us.

As a Crusaders fan I felt the same heading into the game at the weekend. It was like the streak against the Australian sides a few years ago. There is pressure not to be the ones to spoil it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:10 am 
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Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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naki wrote:
Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:16 am 
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naki wrote:
Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.


No need to step up the jokes here.

I guess he doesn't know how to climb every ladder.

Its important to rise above these kind of jokes.

He really can't afford to miss a step.

shit, sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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UncleFB wrote:
naki wrote:
Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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EverReady wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
naki wrote:
Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:



:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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naki wrote:
Remember when Gats broke both his legs falling off that ladder? I'd like to shake that ladder's hand.


He didn't fall. The ladder threw him off because he coached the Lions against the beloved ABs.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:57 am 
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Hopeless.

He's out next year and should only return in 2022 if next year's coach had a worse record.

How did this plonker get a good rep up north?


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Look the man has a proven pedigree bar none. You just have to show a little patience. Gatland just needs a little time to reflect and he'll be back in 2021 stronger than ever. Just you wait and see where he's at when next year's season is over. Then you can judge.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Flockwitt wrote:
Look the man has a proven pedigree bar none. You just have to show a little patience. Gatland just needs a little time to reflect and he'll be back in 2021 stronger than ever. Just you wait and see where he's at when next year's season is over. Then you an judge.

Nah he's coaching the Lions to n 2021. Not back til 2022. Probably not back at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Flockwitt wrote:
Look the man has a proven pedigree bar none. You just have to show a little patience. Gatland just needs a little time to reflect and he'll be back in 2021 stronger than ever. Just you wait and see where he's at when next year's season is over. Then you can judge.


:? :uhoh:

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:48 pm 
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It’s ok, bro. Gats has a cunning plan

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Warren Gatland's struggling Chiefs could be rescued by stunning Owen Farrell and Maro Itoje signings


Love it. The Chiefs screeching at every line out, smirking at every haka, forcing NZR to go bankrupt paying for their personal properties under the table.

THIS is how you destroy a culture from within. THIS is how you get back at them for the clown cartoon


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:53 am 
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I could barely muster the energy to post in this thread.

Gatland OUT!


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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NH posters are able to point to his record of success up there. But the reality is that any player or coach is only as good as their last performance. And they are accountable for every performance. Warren Gatland has just coached the Chiefs to a winless season in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Sure I get it's a tough, intense competition and I get he's new, but a winless season is a winless season. And given he is taking a sabbatical next year to coach the Lions, if I was a Chiefs fan I would be really angry and annoyed. He needs to stay in Hamilton and fix the mess he created. Or he needs to quit and let a decent coach sort things out.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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It seems so long ago now but he had the chiefs doing alright before going north didn’t he? He got smashed in a final on SA, I know that.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Ali's Choice wrote:
NH posters are able to point to his record of success up there. But the reality is that any player or coach is only as good as their last performance. And they are accountable for every performance. Warren Gatland has just coached the Chiefs to a winless season in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Sure I get it's a tough, intense competition and I get he's new, but a winless season is a winless season. And given he is taking a sabbatical next year to coach the Lions, if I was a Chiefs fan I would be really angry and annoyed. He needs to stay in Hamilton and fix the mess he created. Or he needs to quit and let a decent coach sort things out.


Agreed. Yes you could say that the Chiefs risked this when they appointed him, but you have to deal with what's in front of you now. The Chiefs will both need to,and want to, fix this ASAP, and their coach skipping a year is not what they need.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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It seems so long ago now but he had the chiefs doing alright before going north didn’t he? He got smashed in a final on SA, I know that.


Wasn't that Ian Foster?


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Yeah I'm pretty sure that it was. So that belongs in the 'Foster OUT' thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Anyone who votes/voted for Foster needs their head read. Speaking from experience (as a couch potato), the guy is full of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
It seems so long ago now but he had the chiefs doing alright before going north didn’t he? He got smashed in a final on SA, I know that.


Wasn't that Ian Foster?


You’re right. Did he ever coach the chiefs? I’m sure he coached Waikato at some point.


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Wilderbeast wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:
It seems so long ago now but he had the chiefs doing alright before going north didn’t he? He got smashed in a final on SA, I know that.


Wasn't that Ian Foster?


You’re right. Did he ever coach the chiefs? I’m sure he coached Waikato at some point.


ITM Cup level, not Super Rugby. He's a good Six Nations coach but not up to Super Rugby standard let alone Super Rugby Aotearoa.


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 Post subject: Re: Gatland OUT
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HouseOfPane wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
NH posters are able to point to his record of success up there. But the reality is that any player or coach is only as good as their last performance. And they are accountable for every performance. Warren Gatland has just coached the Chiefs to a winless season in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Sure I get it's a tough, intense competition and I get he's new, but a winless season is a winless season. And given he is taking a sabbatical next year to coach the Lions, if I was a Chiefs fan I would be really angry and annoyed. He needs to stay in Hamilton and fix the mess he created. Or he needs to quit and let a decent coach sort things out.


Agreed. Yes you could say that the Chiefs risked this when they appointed him, but you have to deal with what's in front of you now. The Chiefs will both need to,and want to, fix this ASAP, and their coach skipping a year is not what they need.


If it keeps their wage bill down whilst there's less income it might be exactly what they need


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