Re: The Running Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:51 am
Do your rehab. It's not just for shits and giggles.
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Gym rat 'roid heads get out of this thread. Runners don't liftNolanator wrote:Do your rehab. It's not just for shits and giggles.
Yeah. Long runs on your own are lonely.assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.
Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
I usually take my two dogs with me when I run. Especially if it's early morning when the hyenas are around. They're great company.sorCrer wrote:Yeah. Long runs on your own are lonely.
Running Sunrise Monster 32km on Saturday morning so will do a week of double ups Tues 4km, Weds 8km, Thurs 16km, Rest Friday, 32km Sat
Currently around 87. Started the year at 94assfly wrote:I usually take my two dogs with me when I run. Especially if it's early morning when the hyenas are around. They're great company.sorCrer wrote:Yeah. Long runs on your own are lonely.
Running Sunrise Monster 32km on Saturday morning so will do a week of double ups Tues 4km, Weds 8km, Thurs 16km, Rest Friday, 32km Sat
That's a serious amount of mileage for one week! How much do you weigh, out of curiosity?
Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.
Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.
Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.
Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
I went running on Saturday, so nyer!blindcider wrote:Gym rat 'roid heads get out of this thread. Runners don't liftNolanator wrote:Do your rehab. It's not just for shits and giggles.
Have you got anything lined up?HKCJ wrote:Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.
Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.
Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.
Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
Can the cute on strava be preset ?BokJock wrote:I have found Strava to be a really great motivator. and I was a total non runner until a few years ago.
I have become a real saddo with it - setting routes and segments around my village - but the competitor in me gets a real kick out of getting the virtual medals - so pushes me not to stop or go that bit quicker.
And the narcissist in me likes getting the kudos
Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.
Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
It sounds awesome, I really want to do it but getting married next year so looks like I'm gonna go for a cheaper option.HKCJ wrote:Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.
Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.
Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.
Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
It’s actually hard to run slowMog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?
I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
Core strength is critical. Planking is one of the best exercises. The world record was beaten yesterday. 8 hours 15 ffsdargotronV.1 wrote:Trying to get back into running atm, following a knee injury. Not so much chronic just niggling / won't go away. After months of stretching / strengthening following physio advice, with no real joy, I have recently taken to yoga to see if it would help, and my new found core strength is taking the weight off and actually allowing me to run
Got a half marathon in 13 weeks, should just about be ok for that if I can keep my training up
Erm what? Please explain because my experience is the exact opposite.Duff Paddy wrote:It’s actually hard to run slowMog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?
I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
Most people have a natural jogging pace that puts their heart rate quite high. Your “conversational” running pace where you can hold a full conversation whilst running is very slow so if you’re running on your own you’re usually way faster than that.Mog The Almighty wrote:Erm what? Please explain because my experience is the exact opposite.Duff Paddy wrote:It’s actually hard to run slowMog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?
I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
Below a certain speed, walking is actually more energy efficient than running. I find trying to trudge big really difficult. Opening up the stride and speeding up a bit actually makes it easier.Duff Paddy wrote:Most people have a natural jogging pace that puts their heart rate quite high. Your “conversational” running pace where you can hold a full conversation whilst running is very slow so if you’re running on your own you’re usually way faster than that.Mog The Almighty wrote:Erm what? Please explain because my experience is the exact opposite.Duff Paddy wrote:It’s actually hard to run slowMog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?
I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
I'll get on to tackling that record after the halfsorCrer wrote:Core strength is critical. Planking is one of the best exercises. The world record was beaten yesterday. 8 hours 15 ffsdargotronV.1 wrote:Trying to get back into running atm, following a knee injury. Not so much chronic just niggling / won't go away. After months of stretching / strengthening following physio advice, with no real joy, I have recently taken to yoga to see if it would help, and my new found core strength is taking the weight off and actually allowing me to run
Got a half marathon in 13 weeks, should just about be ok for that if I can keep my training up
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Yep, it's tough to keep training without a goal or a race.assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.
Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.
(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
I’m 42 in a couple weeks and still run semi-regularly (the Saturday morning club runs are the easiest current option for taking the kids out exercising). There are several runners at the club older than me running marathons on a regular basis, and some who’ve got into ultra-distance at that age.assfly wrote:You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.
(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
I started running long distance again by entering Comrades on the morning of my 40th. I'm turning 52 this year and have done 4 × 21, 2 x 32km (1 this weekend coming) and a 42km since the beginning of the year. Which is fairly standard Comrades training at this stage.assfly wrote:You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.
(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
Is it up or down this year? My mate in Joburg is doing his third this year. His first was a DNF and his second was 11 hours 45 minutes.sorCrer wrote:I started running long distance again by entering Comrades on the morning of my 40th. I'm turning 52 this year and have done 4 × 21, 2 x 32km (1 this weekend coming) and a 42km since the beginning of the year. Which is fairly standard Comrades training at this stage.
I’ve got the Edinburgh marathon in May. I’ve been ridiculously stupid in that I didn’t run any races last year when I got pretty fit and was doing 1hr35 half’s in training and was seriously contemplating training to go for a sub 3 (don’t think I would have got there but I should’ve given it a shot). Then I got married, had a big Christmas and couldn’t be arsed running in the cold. 6 months later I’m 10 kg heavier again and my first run back yesterday I barely broke 1hr30 for 15k. Pretty annoyed with myself but I’ll get there again.danny_fitz wrote:Have you got anything lined up?HKCJ wrote:Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.
Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.
Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.
Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
I did the Hampton Court Half last year, I like to think I have another marathon in the tank but rowing is just getting in the way now. Would love to do London but I simply cant be arsed to take a charity place.
Am also doing Edinburgh.. week 6 already?! Fk I’ve got some catching up to do! Where do you run BJ? The old cycle paths around Water of Leith are brilliant for training I find as is the Union Canal.. lots of Strava times on them to keep you motivated.BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.
Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
Now I'm just more confused.Duff Paddy wrote:Most people have a natural jogging pace that puts their heart rate quite high. Your “conversational” running pace where you can hold a full conversation whilst running is very slow so if you’re running on your own you’re usually way faster than that.Mog The Almighty wrote:Erm what? Please explain because my experience is the exact opposite.Duff Paddy wrote:It’s actually hard to run slowMog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?
I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
Comrades up has around 2000m over the 89km's and roughly 1000m on the down. You do need to factor in hill training for it.HKCJ wrote:My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
Had me confused for a second.Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
It is literally a “hole” that has been cut out of the bank and is reputed to be a favourite “resting spot” for Arthur Newton, a 5 times winner of the Comrades.
HKCJ, were you the poster with a back/neck operation? No problem with running after that?HKCJ wrote:My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Good to know. Will be having a neck operation to relieve a pinched nerve. Doc says should be fine to run after recovery.HKCJ wrote:Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.