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Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:22 pm
by HKCJ
handyman wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat :x I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.


Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.
Good to know. Will be having a neck operation to relieve a pinched nerve. Doc says should be fine to run after recovery.
What are you having done? Fusion or discectomy? I really hope it goes as well for you as mine did. Was like someone just pressed a switch and the pain disappeared and I got my life back. I know others haven’t been so lucky but it was an absolute life changer for me.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:26 pm
by le chat
Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:39 pm
by ElementFreak
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:48 pm
by blindcider
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:40 am
by ElementFreak
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Yep, 78 laps of something did make me go WTF.

You're mental strength is crazy dude, I would get bored after 10 or so.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:08 am
by HKCJ
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Jesus. You’ll be doing the Sri Chinmoy next.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:39 am
by sorCrer
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Flats are the worst especially long straight ones x( have a very tough 32 tomorrow morning with several hundred meters of elevation

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:44 am
by assfly
Anyone here run the Frankfurt Marathon before?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:53 am
by blindcider
HKCJ wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Jesus. You’ll be doing the Sri Chinmoy next.
DecaX in 2021 is the plan -12 days in hell...

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:42 am
by BokJock
assfly wrote:
BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.

I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
Ah - yes I plan on running long after that as I have the bug now. the looming 4-0 was just the incentive I needed.

and yeah will be doing the longer runs in my training - the others mentioned are just races along the way.

One of the 10km will be the Balmoral 10k, which is an absolute belter around the queens estate. Has a very sneaky hill that absolutely f**ked me last year - but they have a bunch of pipers to greet you at the top which adds nicely to the atmosphere.

https://runbalmoral.com/content/

Next year I am contemplating the Devil of Deeside challenge.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:00 am
by slick
HKCJ wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.

Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.

Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.

Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.
Have you got anything lined up?

I did the Hampton Court Half last year, I like to think I have another marathon in the tank but rowing is just getting in the way now. Would love to do London but I simply cant be arsed to take a charity place.
I’ve got the Edinburgh marathon in May. I’ve been ridiculously stupid in that I didn’t run any races last year when I got pretty fit and was doing 1hr35 half’s in training and was seriously contemplating training to go for a sub 3 (don’t think I would have got there but I should’ve given it a shot). Then I got married, had a big Christmas and couldn’t be arsed running in the cold. 6 months later I’m 10 kg heavier again and my first run back yesterday I barely broke 1hr30 for 15k. Pretty annoyed with myself but I’ll get there again.

My missus got a ballot place for London.. first time she has entered :x
FFS, you might have mentioned that when I was proudly telling you about me lumbering around 5K.

My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:07 am
by BokJock
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:36 am
by slick
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:05 pm
by BokJock
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:07 pm
by BokJock
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
was planning on doing the Aviemore half in October...

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:19 pm
by HKCJ
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
120kg?! Fk I’ve put on 10kg since August and am up to 85 and find the difference in effort is huge. Don’t know how you cope at that weight!

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:26 pm
by le chat
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:29 pm
by le chat
Anybody ever tried running shoes from Decathlon? My Hoka shoes are falling to bits but don't fancy a new pair of them. Need to get a load of gear from Decathlon anyway and have always been impressed by their general range of clothing for running and cycling.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:50 pm
by blindcider
le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city
I hate crowds so I am absolutely the other way, prefer the personal touch of smaller events. Did enjoy York Marathon in October though which was actually my first ever marathon that wasn't preceded by a swim and bike or an ultramarathon

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:36 pm
by sorCrer
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
120kg?! Fk I’ve put on 10kg since August and am up to 85 and find the difference in effort is huge. Don’t know how you cope at that weight!

Dropped from 87 to 84.5 last night after a 2 hour run. Lightest I've been in probably 25 years.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:37 pm
by le chat
blindcider wrote:
le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city
I hate crowds so I am absolutely the other way, prefer the personal touch of smaller events. Did enjoy York Marathon in October though which was actually my first ever marathon that wasn't preceded by a swim and bike or an ultramarathon
See York would be too small for my liking :?

What time did you do?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:51 pm
by blindcider
le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote: Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city
I hate crowds so I am absolutely the other way, prefer the personal touch of smaller events. Did enjoy York Marathon in October though which was actually my first ever marathon that wasn't preceded by a swim and bike or an ultramarathon
See York would be too small for my liking :?

What time did you do?
3:58, wanted to go sub 4 and was on 3:45 pace until 23 miles. wheels came off a bit then

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:30 pm
by DOB
le chat wrote:Anybody ever tried running shoes from Decathlon? My Hoka shoes are falling to bits but don't fancy a new pair of them. Need to get a load of gear from Decathlon anyway and have always been impressed by their general range of clothing for running and cycling.
My kids are getting great wear out of theirs, even if my daughter does still tend to put them on the wrong feet.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:59 pm
by BokJock
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
120kg?! Fk I’ve put on 10kg since August and am up to 85 and find the difference in effort is huge. Don’t know how you cope at that weight!
Down from closer to 130kg, but my playing weight in my 20’s was 110kg and I was fit as a fiddle then. I am also fairly tall at 6ft 3.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:12 pm
by BokJock
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.

Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
Am also doing Edinburgh.. week 6 already?! Fk I’ve got some catching up to do! Where do you run BJ? The old cycle paths around Water of Leith are brilliant for training I find as is the Union Canal.. lots of Strava times on them to keep you motivated.
I am up in Aberdeenshire , Royal Deeside. But have run a bit around Lothian last summer. Including the North Berwick Law.

Fun race, bit treacherous in the coming down in the rain though

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:54 pm
by le chat
blindcider wrote:
3:58, wanted to go sub 4 and was on 3:45 pace until 23 miles. wheels came off a bit then
Good stuff :thumbup: any plans for more?

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:21 pm
by blindcider
le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
3:58, wanted to go sub 4 and was on 3:45 pace until 23 miles. wheels came off a bit then
Good stuff :thumbup: any plans for more?
no, other than the prison one. next years plans are for the "Oner", A Frog Graham round and the Deca-Ironman

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:27 pm
by HKCJ
BokJock wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.

Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
Am also doing Edinburgh.. week 6 already?! Fk I’ve got some catching up to do! Where do you run BJ? The old cycle paths around Water of Leith are brilliant for training I find as is the Union Canal.. lots of Strava times on them to keep you motivated.
I am up in Aberdeenshire , Royal Deeside. But have run a bit around Lothian last summer. Including the North Berwick Law.

Fun race, bit treacherous in the coming down in the rain though
Didn't know there was a race up it.. have been up a couple of time with friends.. nice to see the ponies up there.

If you like hills then the 7 hills race is a good one.. http://www.seven-hills.org.uk/

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:22 pm
by BokJock
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
BokJock wrote:
assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.

Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
Am also doing Edinburgh.. week 6 already?! Fk I’ve got some catching up to do! Where do you run BJ? The old cycle paths around Water of Leith are brilliant for training I find as is the Union Canal.. lots of Strava times on them to keep you motivated.


I am up in Aberdeenshire , Royal Deeside. But have run a bit around Lothian last summer. Including the North Berwick Law.

Fun race, bit treacherous in the coming down in the rain though
Didn't know there was a race up it.. have been up a couple of time with friends.. nice to see the ponies up there.

If you like hills then the 7 hills race is a good one.. http://www.seven-hills.org.uk/
Aye, it is only 5km but pretty steep on the way up. The proper lads do some crazy speed coming down though

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:59 pm
by le chat
Decathlon's trainers seemed very poorly quality, so didn't bother.

Thinking about trying Altra shoes which have a nice wide toe box.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:53 pm
by blindcider
EverReady wrote:Lads when you have a physio programme is it worth doubling up in the exercises if you have the time? I normally barely get the usual reps done but am a bit more flexible at present. He has five exercises listed with three reps of ten. I do them in the morning. Would it be worth doing that again on the evening or am I risking straining the knee too much? I am betwixt and between on it.
My non-expert advice would be that it depends on how much load you are putting through the knee. If you are strengthening the muscles around the knee with these exercise then you are probably okay as long as you keep form that doesn't put strain or exacerbate the injury as the muscles tire.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:58 pm
by sorCrer
Got through 90km's last week but have taken 2 days rest. Getting itchy so will kick off tomorrow again.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:34 pm
by le chat
EverReady wrote:Lads when you have a physio programme is it worth doubling up in the exercises if you have the time? I normally barely get the usual reps done but am a bit more flexible at present. He has five exercises listed with three reps of ten. I do them in the morning. Would it be worth doing that again on the evening or am I risking straining the knee too much? I am betwixt and between on it.
Yes go for it. Most of the time as a practitioner you're trying to give the minimal effective dose because patients are crap at doing exercise and you don't want to put them off

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:22 pm
by Bullettyme
I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:23 pm
by BokJock
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
wait till tomorrow!

and kudos :thumbup:

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:25 pm
by blindcider
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
Shoulder pain is an indentifier that you are not running with great form - probably holding your upper body too tight rather than relaxing your shoulders - you aren't alone and I can get excruciating shoulder pain in a hard 5k

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:41 pm
by Bullettyme
BokJock wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
wait till tomorrow!

and kudos :thumbup:

Cheers, I purposely didn't cycle to work today thinking I'd be wrecked and it turns out to be the nicest day of the year thus far.

Blindcider, I was thinking I am too tight in the shoulders and upper body. I've tried to relax a bit as I'm wasting energy. Happens to me when cycling too. Also had my phone in left hand pocket which is also the shoulder that hurt so maybe a contributor.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:55 pm
by Duff Paddy
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
Start slower get your breathing right and find your pace. Once you figure that out you can keep running for ages

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:26 pm
by DOB
Bullettyme wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
wait till tomorrow!

and kudos :thumbup:

Cheers, I purposely didn't cycle to work today thinking I'd be wrecked and it turns out to be the nicest day of the year thus far.

Blindcider, I was thinking I am too tight in the shoulders and upper body. I've tried to relax a bit as I'm wasting energy. Happens to me when cycling too. Also had my phone in left hand pocket which is also the shoulder that hurt so maybe a contributor.
You should’ve cycled. I always find low impact exercises (cycling, swimming) help flush out the soreness the day after impact (running, rugby). I would definitely say ride to work tomorrow. But then, I would recommend to everyone to ride to work every day that it’s feasible.

Re: The Running Thread

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:27 pm
by DOB
EverReady wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:I did my first 10km last night. Pretty happy with it as it had been a goal for the year. Had to adjust my pace a few times as my lungs were about to burst. Worst part was getting a lain in my shoulder towards the end.

Remarkably little pain in my legs today.
wait till tomorrow!

and kudos :thumbup:

Cheers, I purposely didn't cycle to work today thinking I'd be wrecked and it turns out to be the nicest day of the year thus far.

Blindcider, I was thinking I am too tight in the shoulders and upper body. I've tried to relax a bit as I'm wasting energy. Happens to me when cycling too. Also had my phone in left hand pocket which is also the shoulder that hurt so maybe a contributor.
If you hold the phone up to your ear that should help
He’ll look a bit silly with the left pocket of his trousers up against his ear.